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Risteard wrote: »

Sorry for the bump, but I have a few questions regarding business with french.

I'm sure I want to do a business course in U.L. but I'm undecided as to whether to do it with a language. One of my friends is adamant that I have to do the actual business course through French but I don't think that's the case.

In the French part what exactly is involved and is it just a separate module at the end of the year or is it an ongoing course throughout the year?

The language component of the BBS represents one module per semester I think. All other modules are taken as normal with the rest of the BBS class. In first or second year (can't remember which) when standard BBS have six modules, the language students don't do one of those modules, doing their language instead. Those doing the BBS + Lang. choose a major option like mainstream business, but do not take on a minor option. Many doing a language will go on Erasmus and/or co-op in the country of the chosen language.

I think there is at least one person here doing BBS + Language, so I'm sure they'll have more info.

ninty9er wrote: »

ULPaddy is just finished BBS (HR) and German, DJCR is just finished BBS (HR) and French. I did BBS (Accounting and Finance) and did German instead of a minor until 2nd year because none of the other minors up to that point took my fancy.

I didn't apply for BBS and German, just BBS but took German as my elective in first year. I don't think there are electives anymore however.

And im just after finishing my 1st year in Business and German, don't forget me ha

Love the course, think so much is added to the course by doing it with a language, the trips abroad etc, for example over the easter holidays my whole course (all 12 of us in business and german...) went over to east germany and had the greatest time.

Also I think at times people can find business a bit anonymous which is why at the start of 1st year I found doing a language so great.
Plus theres erasmus, Im off to austria myself in September and can't wait for it.

I hear theres about 22 students generally in the business and french course.

Thanks for the replies,. Only 22 doing business and French? I thought there'd be more. I might keep it up so, sure if I don't like it I might just drop back to regular business.

Epicurus wrote: »

must be one of the few courses able to facilitate time travel :pac:
I wish i could travel back to 1990 :mad:

I'm not aware of any country that doesn't have an east:rolleyes:

Co-op and a 4 year degree will also put you at a marketplace advantage.

Risteard wrote: »

Sorry for the bump, but I have a few questions regarding business with french.

I'm sure I want to do a business course in U.L. but I'm undecided as to whether to do it with a language. One of my friends is adamant that I have to do the actual business course through French but I don't think that's the case.

In the French part what exactly is involved and is it just a separate module at the end of the year or is it an ongoing course throughout the year?

If I may ......... Just finnished doing Business and French!!

Course is changing......... and for the better!!

I myself found most of the Business side completely boring but looking back it is neccesary.

The french side kept me alive!!! Put simply i spent 8 months in France for my co-op..... one of the best experiences of my life!!! My French is reallly good..... not quite fluent yet but I'm going back to France tomorrow for three months to fix that!!!!

The fact is, with a language you keep you options open.

I hated things like Economics, Accounting, Stats, maths and i had to do them for two years!!! ....... pretty much killed my QCA in 2nd year!!

But you guys on the new course are lucky, you specialise earlier so basically you get to do what you want for longer!!

On the Language side most of it is useful:

You do....

1) Fench business ie. how to do things in france. Cheques are different, bank accounts are different, getting a driving license is different... helpful stuff. How to get an appartment, if its TTC or not ..... its a different culture so different rules apply.

That bit was interesting.

2a) FRENCH CULTURE - Two parts to this.... what I thought was the best part eg. football, food, democracy, history etc really really interesting

2b) French Lit - Yawn - Every semester we had to read a book, do a 5 min presentation and an exam on it. Honestly, its good for your french, but the books were ****e (in my opinion - remember you might like them - I don't like reading anyway).

3) Politics....... Hilarious!!! brilliant part of the course... if you speak good french watch the vid below (I wouldn't have been able to understand it when i arrived so don't worry if you can't)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axDyUNWyuw8

really interesting.... goes thorugh french attitudes towards europe etc (Really good for making friends when you get over there - you know whats unpopular and you can have a laugh at its expense).

4) Discussion groups online..... keeps you uip to date with whats happening in France ........ I personally always talked about Soccer and Rugby as well as my time in France but you can discuss what ever you want.

Doing a language in UL is great. But it is completely up to you. You can be paired with an international Person when they arrive and you basically become friends (I did it for two years and I still talk to them.... in fact i stayed with one of them in paris, while i got myself sorted with an appartment).

You can join the international society and meet with people that way and speak French there .. they really don't mind, in fact they do sometimes get sick of speaking English and its a goood release for them.

Also in your classes you will have French erasmus students, so honestly there should be mno reason why you don't come out of UL with a decent standard of French if you get involved.

that is one thing I will say though:

THIS IS COLLEGE - NOT SECONDARY SCHOOL, YOU CAN'T EXPECT EVERYTHING TO BE DONE FOR YOU!!!! :D:D:D:D

Enjoy it, whatever you decide to do!

nouveau_4.0 wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo

lmfao :-D

If all ye college pre madonnas r reading this, remeber college courses gets ye the job so be sure u want those type of jobs & all that comes with it. If you get a job you love you'll never have to work a day in your life

I'm not trying to be biased here but I haven't heard great things about the commerce course in NUIG, its only 3 years and there is no co-op as far as im aware.

Love economics aswel myself, though it comes with finance which can be a bit annoying at times but good all the same.

Sent you a pm but I might as well post it here aswel just in case anyone else wants a look

Right no problem, first off when it comes to business I'd recommend UL over any other university in Ireland, it really is its specialty, the Kemmy Business school is really impressive.

So you did French in the LC last week I assume (hope it went well for ya), well by all means go for Business and French, I know a few in the course and believe there is about 20 or so places compared to 10 in Business and German and 4 in Business and Japanese.

Basically you can kinda view it as doing two courses, Business one one side and French on the other side and while they try to integrate the French into it with 2 hours a week of Business French (a module that will give you all the vocab for business as well as how businesses operate in General in France), now if its exactly the same as business and German in layout you will also have art type modules such as French History/Culture etc which can be annoying at times and completely unrelated to Business and what career you intend on getting it can be interesting all the same (Mine went from learning about William Tell in Austria to East Germany...)

If your anything like me you'll love the fact that your doing the language as it really adds to the course and give you a real edge on the 600 or so business students that are gonna be in your year (as well as 80 or so Law and accounting students).

Ok now the hours, in general you will have more hours than the normal business student but not by much and in comparison to other courses it wont be too much.
So 1st semester of year 1 you'll have around 22hrs a week of which 4hrs will be French related and 18 Business related.
2nd semester is much of the same.

You asked in your post about studying abroad, its called Erasmus and its open to everyone and while its not compulsory its highly recommended, I myself am heading off to Austria in September to study at the University of Graz to improve my German and hopefully be fluent. You basically do the same course you do as at your home university and your grades obtained abroad count as your overall grade at UL.

In Business in the 2nd semester of 2nd year you choose your major. I believe the options are economics and finance, accounting and finance, human resource management, risk management and marketing.
You will try them all out in 1st year and the 1st semester of 2nd year and make your choice.

I'm going for economics and finance myself but still have another few months to have to fully decide.

Anyway I think thats everything, ask way if ya want to know anything else

Mitchell

Mallox wrote: »

oh really .. so do we do french in the languages building???
tanx for all d help by the way really appreciate it

Not necessarily, you could be anywhere, I was in Schumann, the Main building, Schrodinger and the Languages for German at different times during the year. Then again the languages building only opened in the 2nd semester but who knows.

The languages building has a lot of dvd's and special interactive programmes that I never got around to using (3rd floor in the languages building), hopefully you'll be wiser than me and check them out.
Oh and I know its a bit off yet, go for erasmus! im about to head off in a few weeks and if you ever really want to be fluent it is whats needed

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