Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

premierstone wrote: »

Mixed feeelings about Tony Browne playing tbh, firstly from a completely selfish Tipperary viewpoint its great, I cant see him containing anyone of those 6 forwards we have and he will be exposed for pace I have no doubt.
But from a hurling fans view, thats not something I want to see, Tony is a legend of the game, a true gentleman on and off the field and one of the greatest Gaels of the last 30 years, and it would be a shame to see him been run ragged, obviously I want Tipp to win but I sincerely hope that Tony Browne emerges from the game with he's lofty reputation still in tact, he will with me and im sure alot of others regardless, but unfortunately alot of 'fans' these days are very fickle and have short memories.

Tipp are obviously cocky and yere entitled to be. Young lads like the 3 Mahers and and Noel McGrath have already won as much if not more than what Tony Browne has won in his entire career. But when has Tony Browne yet to be 'found out' or caught for pace? I have never seen it. I think the fact that hes 39 years old people just assume he 'past it'. But this is no ordinary 39 year old. This guy is a freak of nature. He has the fitness level now of an average man in... well we'll say late 20s/early 30s. Forget about his age and judge the man on form and fitness levels. Then you'll get a more balanced view of where hes at. I have no worries about Tony on Sunday. When Tonys time is eventually up, he'll be the first to recognise it himself

DublinGAA96 wrote: »

mccarthy37 wrote: »

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Tipp have some good songs Slievenamon and Galtee Mountain Boy to name but a few[/QUOTE.
"Dungarvan My Home Town", we gave it a great blast in 02,"The Old Dungarvan Oak," "Fare Thee Well Lovely Deise" this was sang at a funeral of a great friend of mine who loved his native county which I think is one of the nice'st songs from Waterford. I have a friend from Tipp who does a great version of this song and he is amazed this is not our anthem.

deisebhoy17 wrote: »

Tipp are obviously cocky and yere entitled to be.

Black Suir wrote: »

Did anyone else visit Fraher Field this evening. €8 to get into such an awful game was a lot to ask for. The County Board should be giving those that turned up the €8 for doing so.

Speaking of the County Board, have all the elected officers stood down. I did not see any of them at the game. Thats not to say they were there, just i did not see any. I bet they will be all in Cork tomorrow in the best seats. Bye the way does anyone know, do officers pay for entry into these games, and do the people that sit on the various committees also have to pay. Also there was no linesmen in Fraher Field is assist the referee in a game that had the potential to spill over, There was no team sheets, there was no PA system working. With no County Board officer (to the best of my knowledge) and i assume that the gate men had left as early as they could, If something was to happen to someone in the stand, who would have to go and open the gates to let in an Ambulance. Most of them could not fit under the main gate and have to use the one at the corner of the show grounds. Would Ollie have to leave his score board duties to go across and open it.

Was listening to the Limerick and Clare game on the radio, and have to say a big thank you to Limerick.

lovelypoint wrote: »

Well, Munster Final day is just about here, and I for one am quite interested to see how things go on Sunday. Regardless of result, I think the most important thing tomorrow will be the performance. I guess Tipp will be feeling the same, with the odd murmurrings of discontent in the camp, and close enough scares by both Limerick and Cork, where under different circumstances, either team may have come away victorious.

Regarding ourselves, I can't help but feel things are progressing relatively nicely since the upheaval earlier in the season, and the turnaround since the Galway game in the league. Stylistically, I like what I see from Waterford, with plenty of other green shoots, although we are far from the finished article. My underlying feeling is we are proceeding nicely, perhaps not for ultimate glory this year, but all in all proceeding nicely with further games helping to bring us on.

Obviously we go to Cork tomorrow, being written off big time, in lieu of the competition, the account we gave of ourselves in the fixture last year, and also the upheaval of earlier this year. In one way this seems a little odd, given how close both Limerick and Cork have run Tipp thus far, but in other ways I can see how to have the beating of Tipp tomorrow, we will have to step up a lot in a number of areas. At the bottom of it all, the long odds we face these days would seem to be more a product of people really believing whether we can do the latter, as opposed to questioning the former.

I think potentially we can beat Tipp, but at the same time feel this game has come too early, and to do so will require a big step up from us, and many of our players. This is imminently possible, and why tomorrows performance will be so interesting I think, to get an idea where we stand. The impression I get is that Michael Ryan tends to encourage players to take personal responsibility, and if that is the case, I think it is something that bodes well as for a while now, we have a number of promising players whose senior careers have not exactly taken off in a blaze of glory yet.

The inclusion of Tony Browne in the team tomorrow, would seem to the thing that is causing most some consternation, and to be honest, I would have to say I have my reservations about Tony starting tomorrow, as valued a servant of Waterford hurling he has been. My main fear would be that in a straight 6 on 6, Tony might be badly caught for pace, unless our gameplan is to involve lending him additional support, or utilising him in some form where his role is not a straight man marking one.

If I was Tipp, I would put Bonnar Maher on Tony to run the legs off him, as well as putting Noel McGrath on Brick to expose Brick's remit to act as a covering centre back, and those would be the two things I would most fear from Tipp tomorrow. Aside from that, I am pretty happy with the rest of the team, aside from the usual concerns over the ability of our half forward line to win primary possession.

I think Seamus Prendergast at centre forward to break ball has done a lot to patch up our weaknesses in that area, and his rejuvenation has been impressive, thus far. I very much hope it will continue, as Seamus is far from the finished article as a centre forward for us, and needs to supply as much ball as he wins. In the long run, I would hope we would be identifying a player who is good in the air, with a strong engine, and making him watch Bonner Maher videos, as a Bonner Maher type player would be everything I think we could hope for at centre forward at present.

Tactically, I hope we go out tomorrow with a plan on how to capitalise on Tipps weaknesses. All teams have them, and as Galway showed, even the seemingly invulnerable Kilkenny can be laid low with the combination of a clinical gameplan allied to application of effort and skill.

In any event, Up the Déise!

glick6 wrote: »

Hmmm this lovely use of the English language sounds vaguely familiar.. The voice of Waterford gaa no?

premierstone wrote: »

That was at the request of the munster council as to ensure Waterford actually turn up, didnt want to frighten them away;)