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Buying a used car in Ireland guide

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  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭rwald7


    Cheers for the feedback. I'd actually be trading in an 02 Almera hatchback (4 door), 78k miles on the clock. I know it's hard to guess without seeing it, but any idea of a ballpark trade-in value that I should be looking for? Thanks again for the reply and all the tips I've picked up from you on the board!


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    rwald7 wrote: »
    Cheers for the feedback. I'd actually be trading in an 02 Almera hatchback (4 door), 78k miles on the clock. I know it's hard to guess without seeing it, but any idea of a ballpark trade-in value that I should be looking for? Thanks again for the reply and all the tips I've picked up from you on the board!

    If you were trading in, depending on how long the car is there/margin I'd be allowing you somewhere around a grand. Depending on the Dealer/margins they might just send your car off to a trader.

    If you got it for €4,500 with your own it wouldn't be too bad of a deal on your behalf.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,365 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Is that not bonkers when you consider travel, vrt, exchange rate, ncting it and then taxing it?

    7-800 euro depending on condition :)



    Looks like, fairly bullet proof engine. I've 243,000 on mine, same engine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Is that not bonkers when you consider travel, vrt, exchange rate, ncting it and then taxing it?

    AFAIK the OP is from the UK.

    Edit: Just read the location is Dublin, assumption being the mother of all F ups, I hope the OP is from the Uk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭rwald7


    Interesting to get your perspective. Thanks again. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    I am living in UK, just haven't changed the location on here :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman




  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    That Bora is 100 times nicer than the Golf!

    I can't give much more info, as I'm not fully aware of the English way of doing things. Still though, if you pay what you pay and you get a warranty, you should be fine.

    Make sure the belt was done as it's just about due though at 198k.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Hello again,

    Spotted this and looking for some advice
    http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201150436094086/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-to/2000/model/passat/make/volkswagen/quicksearch/true/page/1/postcode/bs66ht/radius/10?logcode=p

    It's a trade seller, rang him up and he said there is no service history on it at all, and he can't tell me whether or not it has had its cam belt done, the price seems to be low considering the price of similar cars with higher mileage.

    He said it's getting its breaks done tomorrow and that all cars come with a three month guarantee (however I don't exactly know what this protects against.)

    I'm thinking its just a case of forgetting about this and looking for one with FSH, but just wanted a second opinion.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    I'd walk away :) No interior pics, 11 year old cheap High spec Passat.

    Looks like something that will be imported over here. Keep looking


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  • Registered Users Posts: 49 UN Ops Cyprus


    Hi all,

    Looking at a 523i Estate 1999 Silver on Donedeal.ie for €1400. NCT'd until 2013 with just over 100 miles on the clock. Test drove it and seemed ok with some minor marks on the body work however the electric windows passenger and back seat ones do not work as does the central locking, are car electrics expensive to fix?. With this type of car what else should i look at?.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 dec1892


    Hi lads,

    I'm new to all this buying a car lark.....had my oulfellas car up until now.

    Can you give me your opinions on this car please?

    http://www.cbg.ie/Car_Detail.aspx?ID=4619275

    Is it worth the money they are looking for?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Hi all,

    Looking at a 523i Estate 1999 Silver on Donedeal.ie for €1400. NCT'd until 2013 with just over 100 miles on the clock. Test drove it and seemed ok with some minor marks on the body work however the electric windows passenger and back seat ones do not work as does the central locking, are car electrics expensive to fix?. With this type of car what else should i look at?.

    Thanks

    I wouldn't have much experience of the E39, but normally anything Bmw wise you can expect to pay a premium. You might be better off asking over on Bmw-driver.net to see if they're a common fault, or try finding a Bmw specialist near to and giving them a ring. Could be anything from fuses to modules so I'd be careful. Does the central locking not work inside or with the key or is it just with the key? Do the electric windows make any noise/attempt to move when you try and lower them?
    dec1892 wrote: »
    Hi lads,

    I'm new to all this buying a car lark.....had my oulfellas car up until now.

    Can you give me your opinions on this car please?

    http://www.cbg.ie/Car_Detail.aspx?ID=4619275

    Is it worth the money they are looking for?

    Thanks

    The last time I heard a Toyota dealer selling a 09 petrol Avensis I think the open a bottle of champagne, so I would play hard ball if you were bargaining. Seems a nice car with low mileage.

    The ratio of diesels to petrols seems to be about 10 to 1 in the Avensis, here's a, what looks like a demo model, with harmless mileage for not much more.

    http://www.carzone.ie/search/Toyota/Avensis/NG-1.6-A/131105988792481/advert?channel=CARS


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 UN Ops Cyprus


    Hi Limerick man

    Thank you for the reply. I could open the car with the key in the door but was unable to open the central locking through the buttons on both keys. As for the windows there is no sound and that lead me to believe the window lock was on but no luck there either!. Will check the BMW site you mentioned.

    Thank you


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Hi Limerick man

    Thank you for the reply. I could open the car with the key in the door but was unable to open the central locking through the buttons on both keys. As for the windows there is no sound and that lead me to believe the window lock was on but no luck there either!. Will check the BMW site you mentioned.

    Thank you

    No, I wasn't hinting at the window locking being gone. Normally if the motor is gone or the mechanism you'll be able to hear it, if nothing at all happened it could be down to wiring or (slightly unlikely) something as simple as a fuse.

    Try Bmw-driver.net and see how you get on, they're normally a friendly bunch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 dec1892


    Cheers Limerickman.

    Why does the Deisel Avensis outsell the petrol Avensis by so much? Is there something I should be aware of? The reason Im going for petrol ratehr than deisel is because I dont do enough miles to warrant a deisel

    When you say hardball bargaining - what type of discount should I be looking for, 10%??


    The last time I heard a Toyota dealer selling a 09 petrol Avensis I think the open a bottle of champagne, so I would play hard ball if you were bargaining. Seems a nice car with low mileage.

    The ratio of diesels to petrols seems to be about 10 to 1 in the Avensis, here's a, what looks like a demo model, with harmless mileage for not much more.

    http://www.carzone.ie/search/Toyota/Avensis/NG-1.6-A/131105988792481/advert?channel=CARS[/QUOTE]


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    dec1892 wrote: »
    Cheers Limerickman.

    Why does the Deisel Avensis outsell the petrol Avensis by so much? Is there something I should be aware of? The reason Im going for petrol ratehr than deisel is because I dont do enough miles to warrant a deisel

    When you say hardball bargaining - what type of discount should I be looking for, 10%??

    I don't do bargaining by percentages to be honest. I'd ring the dealer and see how low they would be willing to go, with the knowledge in your head that the diesel is a better seller.

    If you don't do enough mileage do not buy a diesel. The reason diesel outsells petrol is because 90% of the Irish population are too thick to understand that doing low mileage in a diesel will only cause grief.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭knifey_spoonie


    Just to let you know that most 10 Avensis are not going to have DPF, which greatly reduces the amount of grief you as a low mileage diesel driver would get. The only real issue that will raise its head is possibly a blocked EGR valve, but that said it hasn't been a huge issue on the new model Avensis, anyway its not super costly even if it does happen.
    The DPF was added in late 10, the way to tell if it has one is, rear lip spoiler and/or 17" alloys on the Aura and Strata

    The reason most people go for diesel is because its a better car to drive. While the 1.6 ain't bad as 1.6's go, it just needs to be really worked to get anything out of it.The result of that is you will not get decent MPG. The Diesel has decent mid range torque which make overtaking easy. In short buy a diesel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 UN Ops Cyprus


    Will do thank you again for the advice


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,971 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    I could open the car with the key in the door but was unable to open the central locking through the buttons on both keys
    Possibly dead battery in the key/fobs?

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Esel wrote: »
    Possibly dead battery in the key/fobs?

    Whoops! I read that as couldn't, sounds like the keys have dead batteries alright or just need to be re coded.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Bernardas


    I had many problems with many dealers.And now I would like to say.Nobody does not sell good car.And next.Buy cheapest model of the car what you want and start put money in this car.If you buy more expensive same model.Dont worry.You will have put money too.You will never find problems when you drive car.You will find problems after.Broken piston rings ( high oil consumption ).Faulty turbo what is prepared to die ( same oil consumption )..Nearly dead shocks and CV joints.If you buy car for you self.First thing what you should do.Bring this car to mechanic for compression test.Check when timing belt was replaced,and accesory belt.Check double floor for water in it.Very comon fault when drains blocked ( wires corosion,problems with electronics).And etc.,.

    1) Nobody never does not sell good car on second hand places.First car will offered to family members,friends.If this car realy good.If this car not good.Car will sold on auctions,internet,or to second hand cars dillers.Last ones,usaly buy cars from auctions.They "Bring" them back to "life" and try make proffit on them.
    2) Never buy used engine for replacement to your car.Today you will happy,tomorow,you know you self.As some people says,I not so rich to buy cheap stuff twice.
    3) Dont try sell your car and buy another used one.Even if you have problem just with engine.Do not worry.Every used car has problems.If not with engine,you will have replace shocs,springs,and ,....When you buy second hand car you will have change timing belt imediatly.This will cost you 300-450 euros.Does not mather what diller says.
    4) Dont play with buy- sell,buy-sell.Becouse its waste of money.Buy one car.Bring this car back to life properly and you will use this car 5 years minimum without any problems.Even if you sell your cheap car for 1 000 euros,and buy another for 5 000 euros.Thinking about newer car will have no problems ( read from top again ).For 4 000 euros difference you could make perfect car from your car what cost 1000 euros.And probably you will have better car than you gona buy for 5000 euros.
    5) If you have problem with engine try find good specialists on remanufactured or reonditioned engines.But never buy used one.


    P.S.No bad cars in this world.Just too much people does not take proper care of them cars.And too much mechanics who cant properly fix them.Car is like horse.You should feed this horse properly,take care properly,and bring to good doctor when horse has problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 chooks


    thanks great info.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,365 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Bernardas wrote: »
    I had many problems with many dealers.And now I would like to say.Nobody does not sell good car.And next.Buy cheapest model of the car what you want and start put money in this car.If you buy more expensive same model.Dont worry.You will have put money too.You will never find problems when you drive car.You will find problems after.Broken piston rings ( high oil consumption ).Faulty turbo what is prepared to die ( same oil consumption )..Nearly dead shocks and CV joints.If you buy car for you self.First thing what you should do.Bring this car to mechanic for compression test.Check when timing belt was replaced,and accesory belt.Check double floor for water in it.Very comon fault when drains blocked ( wires corosion,problems with electronics).And etc.,.

    1) Nobody never does not sell good car on second hand places.First car will offered to family members,friends.If this car realy good.If this car not good.Car will sold on auctions,internet,or to second hand cars dillers.Last ones,usaly buy cars from auctions.They "Bring" them back to "life" and try make proffit on them.
    2) Never buy used engine for replacement to your car.Today you will happy,tomorow,you know you self.As some people says,I not so rich to buy cheap stuff twice.
    3) Dont try sell your car and buy another used one.Even if you have problem just with engine.Do not worry.Every used car has problems.If not with engine,you will have replace shocs,springs,and ,....When you buy second hand car you will have change timing belt imediatly.This will cost you 300-450 euros.Does not mather what diller says.
    4) Dont play with buy- sell,buy-sell.Becouse its waste of money.Buy one car.Bring this car back to life properly and you will use this car 5 years minimum without any problems.Even if you sell your cheap car for 1 000 euros,and buy another for 5 000 euros.Thinking about newer car will have no problems ( read from top again ).For 4 000 euros difference you could make perfect car from your car what cost 1000 euros.And probably you will have better car than you gona buy for 5000 euros.
    5) If you have problem with engine try find good specialists on remanufactured or reonditioned engines.But never buy used one.


    P.S.No bad cars in this world.Just too much people does not take proper care of them cars.And too much mechanics who cant properly fix them.Car is like horse.You should feed this horse properly,take care properly,and bring to good doctor when horse has problem.

    So if your engine went, youd buy a brand new one from the main dealer?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Bernardas


    I gona wait until I will have change my timing belt ( 350 euros ).Than I will bring my old engine to make this engine reconditioned.I defently not gona buy brand new engine.Becouse reconditioned will with waranty 60 000 miles or 5 years.And with new timing belt.
    Actualy I dont have any problems with engine now.Just put 0.8 liter of oil for every 1000 km.My friends actualy put to 04 Toyota Avensis arround 1.5 litters of oil for every 2000 km.
    When I bought my car.I had problem with turbo.What was replaced for 750 euros.Car did not have any problems with turbo.Just heard whistling noise.Car was perfect on ride when I bought this car.But.When mechanic checked interculer.Interuler had plenty oil inside.And turbo was nearly beside grave.
    Also.When you buy car 110 000 miles mileage.That mean timing belt should be changed.Becouse timing belt should be changed every 55 000 miles.When diller says belt is changed.Do not believe.Becouse nobody will change timing belt for 350 + euros on car before sale !
    Another tips and tricks.Enough put Lucas add to engine oil.Or put different stuff to petrol ar diesel (adds,plenty them on sale ).And this car will have reduced smoke and perfect on ride.Did somebody see stuff for better engine performance ? What clean injectors and lubricate cilinders ? Helps engine better working with broken rings ? All what you see on sale is just body.Other things is Lotto !
    I did think trade in my car 04 to diller an get another 07 for 8500 euros.That car what I did think to take is 12500 on sale at this time.But I think you could imagine.What car I could have if I will put extra 8500 euros to engine,body paintwork,etc.I absolutely sure.I will have much better car than on sale now for 12500 euros.And I absolutely sure.For car what will cost me 8500 euros.Will need new timing belt becouse its 108 000 miles..That is extra 400.So car will cost me 8950 euros.Plius,I absolutely sure.Something else wrong in this car.As I told before.Nobody does not sell good cars.Actualy one my friend had problems with Audi A4.A couple months ago.Head gasket blow up.Car is only 2008,...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Bernardas


    Just put in google: Alfa Romeo ( model ) problems.Alfa Romeo ( model ) most common faults.Alfa Romeo ( model ) use too much oil.Same with Audi,or Ford.I prefer Ford from your list.Alfa and Audi will have problems with engine defenetly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Bernardas


    I worked on recycling place at one stage in my life.There I did see many cars in working condition.Guys just paid 1-200 euros to place owner.And got cars for sale for nearly nothing.There was plenty Fords,Opel Corsa,Renault Megane and other makes.They worth nothing.People just brought them to us becouse cars was not passed NCT,or had old tyres,or some faults.So,if you buy used car for under 2000 euros in internet or auctions.Plenty cars there for sale from scrap yards.On photo what we made with BMW ( in working condition ).We actualy lifted this car becouse one guy liked aloy wheels,another took some petrol,and another cut catalytic convertor ( platina inside ) of.I actualy dont work there any more if you will have any questions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Just a little tip. Do not buy a car from someone in a car park or at a garage if you cannot see the logbook and some ID from them.


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