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29-04-2012, 00:23   #376
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Em, given that the Euro did not come into being until 1 January 2002 and that Thatcher was evicted from power in 1990, that's not exactly an amazing achievement.
Sorry I should have phrased that better.

I was referring to her opposition to the single currency which resulted in Britain not opting to join the euro-zone.

The idea for the euro was floating around when she was in power. Had she decided it was a good idea Britain may have adopted it.
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29-04-2012, 00:25   #377
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Very true - but that didn't stop the poster from not even kopping on that while they were too busy trying to spin fiction into tried espoused fact!
I stand by what I said.
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29-04-2012, 14:32   #378
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Sorry I should have phrased that better.

I was referring to her opposition to the single currency which resulted in Britain not opting to join the euro-zone.

The idea for the euro was floating around when she was in power. Had she decided it was a good idea Britain may have adopted it.

....her objections would hardly have been based on amazing foresight. More a case of a broken clock being right at least once a day.
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....her objections would hardly have been based on amazing foresight. More a case of a broken clock being right at least once a day.
Twice every day?
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Sorry I should have phrased that better.

I was referring to her opposition to the single currency which resulted in Britain not opting to join the euro-zone.

The idea for the euro was floating around when she was in power. Had she decided it was a good idea Britain may have adopted it.
+1. Its a pity that half baked idea of the euro was introduced of course. All the countries in Europe are paying the price today. From our own point of view of course, our banks borrowing abroad vast sums of money at cheap interest rates ( the germans kept them low to suit themselves ) during the tiger years was one of the main reasons for our property bubble.

Mrs T was right about that, just as she was proved right about almost everything else, from the PIRA to Gadaffi to the Easten Bloc ( cold war) to her opposition to the invasion of the military regime in Argentina (also responsible for the disappeared there).

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like the white elephant one we had at vast expense to the taxpayer in the liffey as a countdown to the millenium ( the clock at the dock)? She would not have allowed such waste.
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30-04-2012, 00:34   #384
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support for the martyrs was so big the IRA decided to keep it going and ended up killing more than Thatcher did.

As a thought, we like to hear of how every event like bloody sunday, the hunger strikes etc created support for the IRA, do people not realise that every shopping centre bombed created the opposite in England?

if it wasn't for the IRA overshadowing the civil rights abuses in NI, catholics may have had their rights long before they did.

besides, since when were the IRA fighting for civil rights, they were fighting for a united Ireland, they simply used civil rights as a recruiting tool.
Do you think if the IRA did nothing the British government would of just gave catholics rights when they didn't have too. I think the old IRA were not the devil men they are made out to be and were just doing what they felt they had too for the future of their kids, but I think the current crop of lads just want to keep fighting and keep trouble going when there is nothing to fight for.

Thatcher was an evil b*tch and was very ruthless. Saying that though she did do good for the English economy but I have no time for the woman and would go so far to say that many people wont give a fcuk when she hits the bucket.
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Margaret Thatcher was she really that bad?

Her son was a mercenary of sorts.
So she bred what she was fighting against. . .
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i hope she gets cancer of the gee, an animal in every sense of the word
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+1. Its a pity that half baked idea of the euro was introduced of course. ...............there).
I find it rather an indictment of your supposed support of Mrs Thatcher that you have failed to deal with my rebuttals, but prefer to return here and 'flagwave' in a simplistic manner on a semi-regular basis.

The "Euro" per se is not the cause of the current crisis in Europe, I might add.

I've already dealt with your nonsense about the PIRA, Gadaffi and the fall of communism. When you figure out an answer for what I've already raised you can get back to me.

As regards the 'disappearances' - you realise that in that aspect the Argentinian regime was doing much as their neighbour Chile did, and that Thatcher supported the Pinochet Government there? Indeed 'disappearing' and killing people was not something that Mrs Thatcher had great problems with, given her attitude to Reagan's policies in Latin America and her own tack with Apartheid South Africa.
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As per title was Maggie T as bad as what is made out.

Yeah she might have pissed off a few of the working class and the IRA and its followers but she did what she felt was best for Britain and she did lead Britain on a prosperous economic upturn with her policies.

As a whole I feel that the history books will reflect quite well on her tenure in the years to come. She did achieve a hell of a lot as she became one of the first women to become a national leader in the Western world. She did a lot for the advancement of women.

All in all I think she did her best for her country and surely in Ireland we can recognise and respect that attribute.
So did Biffo. She was a cruel hooer and we all should hate her
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On this day...

1979 – Margaret Thatcher (pictured) became the first female Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, following the defeat of James Callaghan's incumbent Labour government in the previous day's general election.
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