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  • #302
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    blatantrereg wrote: »
    It's more efficient to grow plants and eat them, than to grow plants to feed to animals and then eat them.
    WE don't really do that in Ireland. We do supplement their diet with feed but for the most part they're eating grass that's growing there anyway and in winter they eat silage.

    Irish farmers are being punished and accused of the actions of intensive American farms. Bovine production has been going on in Ireland for thousands of years. There is a balance there and it actually suits Irish farmers to be organic. It's just easier here the country is ideal for livestock raising. If anything it's more suited to livestock raring as it's harder for us to produce crops in a lot of the country.


  • #303
    Paddycrumlinman
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭Paddycrumlinman


    Evolution :- Not how smart or fit you are its how adaptable to change you are. Simples.


  • #304
    blatantrereg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    El_Dangeroso wrote: »
    The fact that certain nutrient deficiencies are more common in vegetarians leads me to think that on average, most vegetarians are not meeting those needs.

    Didn't see that until Russell Turing quoted it. That's a common misconception, and a pretty bad one. If you look at actual research instead of assumption, you'll see that vegetarians are not more likely to be deficient in iron or zinc - or any other nutrient in meat.

    The only good thing you might miss out on in food by being vegetarian is certain types of beneficial omega 3s in fish oil. There are plenty of excellent vegetable sources of omega 3s - but they are different specific fats, and from the perspective of health alone, it would be optimal to consume the ones in fish too. That is probably why people who eat fish but no meat are slightly healthier, taken as a group than vegetarians. Both groups are significantly healthier than meat eaters.

    If you chose to become vegan, then you probably would need to supplement to get enough vitamin B12.

    That is a complete list of the nutrients you might expect to miss in your normal diet as a result of becoming vegan or vegetarian.

    that said I would recommend everybody (dedicated beef eaters included) familiarise themselves with good sources of iron, and how to maximise its absorption. It's the single most common nutritional deficiency in both meat eaters and vegetarians, and you won't get enough of it from meat sources alone, unless you guzzle an awful lot of things like lamb's liver, and consume a very high level of cholesterol in the process.


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