S5E5 - Kill the Boy - HAVE READ the books.

Passed the halfway point now and lookin back, they've got through an awful lot of the books already. Arya is in training, Jon is LC and already his friends are turning on him. Cercei has the faith militant doing their thing. Poor blind Cercei.. Brienne is waiting to pounce on Winterfell, whether to save Sansa or Kill Stannis I don't know. Stannis is on the war march. I really hope we get an actual battle unlike the cold stalemate we got in the books. Most of us knew Daenerys was going to marry Hizdahr this season, hopefully this happens sooner rather than later as the aftermath of that would be a great way to end episode 9 but a boring episode 10 cliffhanger.

It's kind of hard to judge this episode as it's clearly only setting us up for the second part of the season but any fears we had that season 5 would be slow have been definitively allayed. They're doing the exact opposite and cramming too much into every episode. Jesus imagine they left the Ironborn storyline in it too. I reckon, going by the pacing of the season so far, that readers will have a couple of questions answered by the end of the 10th episode. Jon's parentage and his kinda demise come to mind. But us usual there's gonna be more and more questions. Jorah has greyscale? Barristan is dead? These will affect the story down the line and I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing..

I feel this episode should have ended with Tyrion being dragged down, it's like they don't really want any suspense. I was kind of happy with the screen going black as I thought it was the end and it would have been a fun ending. Greyscale seems like a fast moving disease too and unlike anything I've ever seen in my life I feel Jon Con had it for a good while in the books before anything showed.

Not sure what's to be gained from Jon becoming LC and then leaving for a few weeks with presumably Ser Alliser in command, I reckon he just wont be allowed back in or something rather than being stabbed and have to face some White Walkers.

Who sent that letter to Aemon?

Hans Bricks wrote: »

I reckon Sansa is gonna do something to Fat Walda (kill her or worse) and that unborn Bolton and frame Ramsey for it. Set Roose against Ramsey and get some long awaited Northern revenge. I think we're in store for the Battle on the ice this season by the looks of things too.

But on a sour note, is the Grey Worm - Missandei romance the most infuriatingly pointless thing in the universe right now ? Why is it still here wasting precious screen time ?

They killed Barristan but kept this love story in. This is unforgivable.. And they even pointed out that he should've died like a hero, not ambushed in a back alley by some mask wearing pussies. Do they think pointing this out will make it better? Fúckin Grey Worm would want to have a monumentally huge part in the story to come to warrant Ser Barristan dying the way he did..

Fully expecting fAegon to be cut now, I think Jorah will resume JonCon's role as the source of greyscale in Westeros. Tyrion's face when he saw Drogon was absolutely brilliant. I think Jon will die and expect the resurrection to be the last scene of the season, as it would be too difficult to hide the fact that he's filming if they left it as a cliffhanger.

jebidiah wrote:

From watching the "previously on got" clip. I thought we were going to see Rikon in this episode. It was reminding us of him and bran but showed rick on quite a bit.

They don't do a 'previously' do they?

jebidiah wrote: »

Love the way the tv series is going. The last few episodes have been a bit cheesy but I really enjoyed this one.

Im not at all bothered about the changes, most people haven't read lotr because there are too many characters and names, condensing everything down is a great way to keep the show accessible. I was only thinking that Jorah would be getting gray scale and that Griff wouldn't be in the show.

There are now genuine Wtf moments for me in the show where as before it was ahh they didn't do this or that right.

From watching the "previously on got" clip. I thought we were going to see Rikon in this episode. It was reminding us of him and bran but showed rick on quite a bit.

"Baristan The Bold they called him, and he died in an alley" I feel like this is right up GRRM's..... alley.... Super hero character dies in a seemingly mundanely cruel or brutal fahsion. Because you know, the world is full of ****.

In Lord of the Rings the same things happen as in the books. They cut out some minor character arcs, that were concurrent to the main story, not complete portions of books because they need to show us a boob scene an episode and some strange convoluted love story that is possibly the most pointless thing ever put on television.

That said I'm enjoying the stuff that actually pertains to the books. The scenes at the Wall were quite interesting though I feel like the Wall, KL, Dorne and Winterfell are the only places in Westeros being given any time and even then they are left out of episodes. No mention of the Riverlands, Iron Islands, rare mentions of the northerners but Stannis isn't going to be using them. I think it's to do with different directors for each episode that they want some arc to each episode rather than telling a coherent story. It's a collection of sometimes great scenes but the overall story being all over the shop because they bit off more than they could chew and didn't plan ahead early on.

Cutting out the Ironborn after the time they gave them and the buildup of Balon as one of the kings, not to mention Shireen and Selyse being dropped and brought back when they realised they needed them just reeks of poor planning from the start. They could have kept it tighter early on but when they got success they started adding characters that in the books could be fleshed out but in terms of TV logistics was never going to be sustainable. So now they presumably have a bunch of pretty high level actors and actresses just on retainer for a few cameos every season because they've stuck with the ten episode seasons which hasn't been enough since series 2.

FunLover18 wrote: »

They don't on Sky Atlantic ... Do they!? I've never seen a previously for GoT

They don't on Sky.

American audiences might need the refresher.

Lads!! We have a Bolton-Stark wedding on the horizon, Roose's wife is pregnant, Brienne is outstide Winterfell, and Stannis is on the way.

Red Wedding 2; Redder Wedding me thinks.

They can't cut the Drogon scene though, the locust poisoning arc will be cut as there is no Strong Belwis, Varys or Ser Jorah may take Ser Barristans place down the line but it is a character cut that screws this up in my eyes.

If they have cut the two Griffs arc completely then she may end up in Westeros sooner rather than later but I hope it's on the back of Drogon, that bloody love story crap is stupid too.

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

When Sam was talking to the Targaryen Maester about Daenerys and he said that a Targaryen left alone in the world was a terrible thing. Then Jon appears. I like to think thats another little hint at whats to come.
Anyone agree or am I being silly?

Yeah I thought exactly the same.




I enjoyed that episode, much better than last week's. Sansa has gone from being one of the dullest characters to one of the most interesting, I'm really enjoying her arc this season.

Saw this posted on Reddit...

Kennel Master's daughter needs some fattening up ... yuck!