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Importing from the UK - definitive guide (Q&A)

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    #3332
    timmy4u2
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    discombobulate wrote: »
    Just to add tax in the UK is feck all compared to here so you could always pay the buyer a little extra to tax for peace of mind on way to ferry.
    £30 I think on one of those if my memory serves me right. ?..can be obtained by seller at a PO before leaving


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    #3333
    timmy4u2
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    discombobulate wrote: »
    Presume a HPI check would tell you if it had been an accident? Only if it was claimed on insurance i presume though
    You would be surprised how many cars will have suffered prangs and not recorded and getting worse. Guess recession is biting well there also.
    Another problem with cars that have not attained an mot age is the ability of a HPI check to determine the mileage, so a genuine service record book is a must


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    #3334
    verywell
    Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭verywell


    timmy4u2 wrote: »
    You would be surprised how many cars will have suffered prangs and not recorded and getting worse. Guess recession is biting well there also.
    Another problem with cars that have not attained an mot age is the ability of a HPI check to determine the mileage, so a genuine service record book is a must

    How can I tell if the service record book is genuine?

    PS thank you so much everyone for your help - MUCH appreciated.


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    #3335
    timmy4u2
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    verywell wrote: »
    How can I tell if the service record book is genuine?

    PS thank you so much everyone for your help - MUCH appreciated.
    You ask the service manager of the garage doing the service and they can also give a print out of all invoices etc.


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    #3336
    discombobulate
    Registered Users Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    timmy4u2 wrote: »
    You would be surprised how many cars will have suffered prangs and not recorded and getting worse. Guess recession is biting well there also.
    Another problem with cars that have not attained an mot age is the ability of a HPI check to determine the mileage, so a genuine service record book is a must
    An AA check would probably be a definite necessity on that one for him then. I found that even the threat of an AA check is enough to get people to be more honest about cars.

    Had one lad shouting at me down the phone for not trusting him and that the service history should be enough. He had sent on pics of the service history (just stamps in book) from some random garage so stayed well clear after all that.


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    #3337
    topher1990
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭topher1990


    hi lads. im heading across the pond to buy a car for over 10k and i was initially planning on paying with my debit card(aib) but i called them and was advised the daily limit at a pos is 2500 so i am now thinking of just bringing the cash over with me as am not too keen on bank drafts and all that carry on. i couldnt find anything from the previous post suggesting whether this was safe to do or not.

    so hoping someone here with a bit of knowledge can give us some advice on this?

    many thanks for you anticipated replies


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    #3338
    discombobulate
    Registered Users Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    topher1990 wrote: »
    hi lads. im heading across the pond to buy a car for over 10k and i was initially planning on paying with my debit card(aib) but i called them and was advised the daily limit at a pos is 2500 so i am now thinking of just bringing the cash over with me as am not too keen on bank drafts and all that carry on. i couldnt find anything from the previous post suggesting whether this was safe to do or not.

    so hoping someone here with a bit of knowledge can give us some advice on this?

    many thanks for you anticipated replies
    I brought 8k over in cash. Felt like a drug dealer :-) You could always get the garage to pick you up at the airport if their close enough. You might need to check declaration laws also as you may need to declare it in the airport.

    You could do a bank transfer before going if youve had the car checked etc. or check if they'd take a sterling draft. No experience with either myself but i'm sure others have.


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    #3339
    timmy4u2
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    topher1990 wrote: »
    hi lads. im heading across the pond to buy a car for over 10k and i was initially planning on paying with my debit card(aib) but i called them and was advised the daily limit at a pos is 2500 so i am now thinking of just bringing the cash over with me as am not too keen on bank drafts and all that carry on. i couldnt find anything from the previous post suggesting whether this was safe to do or not.

    so hoping someone here with a bit of knowledge can give us some advice on this?

    many thanks for you anticipated replies
    Cash is in order. I have never had a problem. Put it in one of those folders, name escapes me, that you strap around your waist and dont display it until you are sure of who you are dealing with.
    Keep a few quid in your pocket. To combine with the other post do not bring a draft unless you plan on staying for eight days as it takes at least that amount of time to clear, and nobody. will give you a 10grand car until the draft clears.
    No need to declare that amount.

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/declaring-cash.htm


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    #3340
    verywell
    Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭verywell


    For ease of collection etc what are the best / easiet places to get to and from?

    Or in other words, what is the best postal code to use when searching?


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    #3341
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    timmy4u2 wrote: »
    Cash is in order. I have never had a problem. Put it in one of those folders, name escapes me, that you strap around your waist and dont display it until you are sure of who you are dealing with.
    Keep a few quid in your pocket. To combine with the other post do not bring a draft unless you plan on staying for eight days as it takes at least that amount of time to clear, and nobody. will give you a 10grand car until the draft clears.
    No need to declare that amount.

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/declaring-cash.htm

    I brought a draft with me and wasnt waiting eight days - I'm starting to side with MidlandsM on you talking utter nonsense.

    Purchase was all done in one day. And I bought a car North of Northampton and was very happy and never had any problems with it.


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    #3342
    timmy4u2
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    Mc Love wrote: »
    I brought a draft with me and wasnt waiting eight days - I'm starting to side with MidlandsM on you talking utter nonsense.

    Purchase was all done in one day. And I bought a car North of Northampton and was very happy and never had any problems with it.

    Are you saying that the draft cleared in less than eight days or are you saying that you found a trader who accepted a bank draft from you, a complete stranger, and your vehicle was not just a throw away banger or anything like that, in other words the draft was for a considerable sum of money.
    Or did you purchase from a private person who was not aware of the dangers of accepting a bank draft from a stranger.
    Elaborate please.
    BTW when did you carry out that transaction?


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    #3343
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    year was 2010 - Dealer - Car was 2008 Ford Focus 1.6 TDCI Zetec and the amount was substantial. Dealer called the bank and they confirmed it was legit. In and out - happy days!


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    #3344
    topher1990
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭topher1990


    appreciate the feedback lads.. think i'll settle with a bank transfer and pay the difference in cash hoping for a discount.

    just another query, the dealer has sent me copies of the v5c forms and the service history which all look above board. is there anything else i should check or ask for?

    and also ive done a look up on the dvla site and it shows that the car reg was changed at the end of last year. am i right in having alarm bells going off here


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    #3345
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,113 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Run a full UK HPI or car history check on it, including mileage check, accident history and outstanding finance.


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    #3346
    discombobulate
    Registered Users Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    topher1990 wrote: »
    appreciate the feedback lads.. think i'll settle with a bank transfer and pay the difference in cash hoping for a discount.

    just another query, the dealer has sent me copies of the v5c forms and the service history which all look above board. is there anything else i should check or ask for?
    Have you done a HPI check? Worth getting an AA inspection done also. Their quite pricy but very thorough.


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    #3347
    topher1990
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭topher1990


    just done a look up on the dvla site and it shows that the car reg was changed at the end of last year and it failed mot on 2 occasion but passed it on second attempts(minor faults with tyre depths). am i right in having alarm bells going off here?

    and i will book the AA inspection tomorrow so that should clear up any doubts. but i dont want to dish out anymore funds if it is a lemon.

    and would a cartell be the same as a HPi check?

    thanks again


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    #3348
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,113 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Number plate change could indicate that it's previous owner owned a private plate.

    Check with the AA if their check includes a HPI type check as part of their package.


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    #3349
    verywell
    Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭verywell


    topher1990 wrote: »
    just done a look up on the dvla site and it shows that the car reg was changed at the end of last year and it failed mot on 2 occasion but passed it on second attempts(minor faults with tyre depths). am i right in having alarm bells going off here?

    and i will book the AA inspection tomorrow so that should clear up any doubts. but i dont want to dish out anymore funds if it is a lemon.

    and would a cartell be the same as a HPi check?

    thanks again


    Was this the link you used to check that info? https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app/home/intro

    Just want to make sure that I am using correct one. Thanks


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    #3350
    Leprechaun77
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Leprechaun77


    Just about to go ahead with purchasing an Audi from the UK but have two quick questions for those of you with more of a knowledge on the VRT process:

    1.)VRT on extras. I understand that these are not considered for cars over 4 years old as per revenue website, but I am slightly confused by their formula of how this 'age' is calculated. I am looking at 2 cars which are registered in march and sept 2010 respectively. Are one or both of these deemed clear from vrt on extras now?

    2.) change of ownership: can I fill in the v5c cert with the dealer, sign it myself, and then put the car in my wife's name when I get it VRT'd back in Ireland? (car has to be in her name for insurance) This would save her having to travel.


    Thanks


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    #3351
    topher1990
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭topher1990


    verywell wrote: »
    Was this the link you used to check that info? https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app/home/intro

    Just want to make sure that I am using correct one. Thanks

    No i used the links below. you will need details from the v5c. but it does give an extensive breakdown of info. was rather surprised at how detailed it was for a free service

    http://motinfo.direct.gov.uk/internet/servlet/ECHIDDispatcher


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    #3352
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,113 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Leprechaun77 wrote: »
    Just about to go ahead with purchasing an Audi from the UK but have two quick questions for those of you with more of a knowledge on the VRT process:

    1.)VRT on extras. I understand that these are not considered for cars over 4 years old as per revenue website, but I am slightly confused by their formula of how this 'age' is calculated. I am looking at 2 cars which are registered in march and sept 2010 respectively. Are one or both of these deemed clear from vrt on extras now?

    2.) change of ownership: can I fill in the v5c cert with the dealer, sign it myself, and then put the car in my wife's name when I get it VRT'd back in Ireland? (car has to be in her name for insurance) This would save her having to travel.


    Thanks


    It goes from the car's original first registration date. So if a car was registered on 1st March 2010 it is now deemed to be over 4 years old. A car registered on 1st September 2010 is still deemed 3 years old until it reaches 1st September.

    To my knowledge the dealer will keep a section of the V5 form, fill out the vehicle export section and send it off to the UK DVLA. The remaining section of the V5 (V5c) will be given to you and you present this to the NCTS centre when it is being re-registered here in Ireland.


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    #3353
    discombobulate
    Registered Users Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    Leprechaun77 wrote: »
    Just about to go ahead with purchasing an Audi from the UK but have two quick questions for those of you with more of a knowledge on the VRT process:

    1.)VRT on extras. I understand that these are not considered for cars over 4 years old as per revenue website, but I am slightly confused by their formula of how this 'age' is calculated. I am looking at 2 cars which are registered in march and sept 2010 respectively. Are one or both of these deemed clear from vrt on extras now?

    2.) change of ownership: can I fill in the v5c cert with the dealer, sign it myself, and then put the car in my wife's name when I get it VRT'd back in Ireland? (car has to be in her name for insurance) This would save her having to travel.

    Thanks
    You don't need to fill out anything on the v5c from my experience. You just make sure to get the full document off them. Can be registered by your wife then here.

    Big thread here on VRT and extras


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    #3354
    verywell
    Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭verywell


    Is it a reasonable request to ask the garage to email me the service history? Is this something that they can do?

    I got the reg cert off them. I did a HPI check and apart from the 'Unit Stocking' finance on it it seem to be clear. He also emailed me confirmation that no finance will be on it when I take it.


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    #3355
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,113 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Of course it is reasonable. They can always block out the previous owner's name and address if they like. You just want a copy of the service history to ascertain and verify what was done and at what mileage.


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    #3356
    Leprechaun77
    Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Leprechaun77


    bazz26 wrote: »
    It goes from the car's original first registration date. So if a car was registered on 1st March 2010 it is now deemed to be over 4 years old. A car registered on 1st September 2010 is still deemed 3 years old until it reaches 1st September.

    Thanks for that...thought that would be the case. The vehicle in question was registered on 30th March, so on this basis would I have to wait until this date for it to be 4 years old, or is it 4 years old on the 1st March? The revenue formula seems to look like (month registered in Ireland - month first registered in UK) which would be 0-0.....doesn't seem to distinguish by speficic day of the month but I don't want to get hammered if they do in practice?


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    #3357
    verywell
    Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭verywell


    No NI reg cars seem to come for me on the DVLA vehichle query. Anyone know why this would be?


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    #3358
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,113 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Leprechaun77 wrote: »
    Thanks for that...thought that would be the case. The vehicle in question was registered on 30th March, so on this basis would I have to wait until this date for it to be 4 years old, or is it 4 years old on the 1st March? The revenue formula seems to look like (month registered in Ireland - month first registered in UK) which would be 0-0.....doesn't seem to distinguish by speficic day of the month but I don't want to get hammered if they do in practice?


    I think they only work off 2 years on options now but I have no source of proof so don't take it as gospel.


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    #3359
    timmy4u2
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    discombobulate wrote: »
    You don't need to fill out anything on the v5c from my experience. You just make sure to get the full document off them. Can be registered by your wife then here.

    Big thread here on VRT and extras
    Nothing on the V5 to be filled out. You need a receipt with the date and showing the amount paid.
    In accordance with the instructions issued on the introduction of the red V5 the seller sends a letter to DVLA informing them that the car has been sold for export and hands the V5 to the buyer.
    I was going to give the link but they have changed their site and I cannot find the link to that.
    Perhaps it is on the right hand page.


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    #3360
    gutteruu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭gutteruu


    Just wondering how many cars you can import from UK before they start hassling you for income tax etc. Bought my wife a car, thinking about selling it and getting something different in UK again, then maybe getting a 3rd for myself later in the year. (Assuming all cars are registered for VRT)


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    #3361
    timmy4u2
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭timmy4u2


    gutteruu wrote: »
    Just wondering how many cars you can import from UK before they start hassling you for income tax etc. Bought my wife a car, thinking about selling it and getting something different in UK again, then maybe getting a 3rd for myself later in the year. (Assuming all cars are registered for VRT)
    Well, if it is your own declared money you will not have a problem as you may do as you wish with it.
    Having said that the registered owner, when the car is first taxed, can be different from the person importing it.
    You can nominate another person to go through the VRT proceedure on your behalf, but in your name, or indeed anybody else can nominate you to do it for them.
    The process starts with the name placed on the invoice and ends with the name placed on the RF 100 if you do not usecthe online taxing facility


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