The NARGC should come out with something I am surprised they haven't by now. Read some of the posts here haven't read them all admittedly . Grizzly is right this is more than just thin edge of a.wedge. This is very serious.to ALL shooters . The ones who sit back and watch this thinking ' phew I'm okay' will be next.
But enough opposition in the eu already .
Ladies and gents
Our sport is always being scrutinised that I can put up with it. However don't label us as fringe lunatics who murder people in city streets because of some religious ideals .that we do not have to put up with . That is basically what some no named unelected euro-c-rat is attempting to say with this very thinly veiled gun grab. Won't mention the other shooting organisations here as they are busy I'd say. Looking forward to what NARGC comes out with.

Common knowledge to you and I but maybe some others might be interested in this.

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/inside-the-ant-trade-how-europes-terrorists-get-their-hands-on-arms-34228128.html

Sparks wrote: »

People ought to be writing off.
You might think it does no good; maybe - but it does active harm to not write off because people can say "well, nobody complained and silence means assent in these cases".

I would have expected a slew of burglaries and thefts of licensed firearms and a barnful of ballistic data collected during The Troubles if civilian firearms were of any use to the factions.

I think the AK's used in Paris 13/11 were semi auto only, maybe that's where the anti shooting lobby got their opportunity with this.

Will put something together and will cc my MEP's.

Just sent FWIW

RE: COM(2015)750/F1
Proposal for a DIRECTIVE OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL amending Council Directive 91/477/EEC on control of the acquisition and possession of weapons

First, the recent terrorist attacks in Paris, Beirut, Egypt, Mali, Tunisia and other countries are atrocities and are condemned by all firearms enthusiasts.

Bolt action rifles were designed in the 19th century and pre-date the internal combustion engine, the lightbulb and even mains electricity. Apart from military heavy weapons such as the Gatling gun, Vickers machine gun and such, semi automatic light firearms were designed shortly after the manually-operated bolt action. Self-loading products such as the Remington model 8 (patented 1900), Standard Arms Model G and Winchester's Model 1905 were quickly adopted by hunters and target shooters, while the military only commissioned self-loading light firearms such as the RSC 1917 (France) and BAR Model 1918 (USA) some years later.
Late 19th century self-loading handguns struggled to replace the revolver designs in use by the military and even the famous Luger was bought only by civilians from 1898 until adopted by the Swiss military in 1900.
In the last decade, modern precision manufacturing techniques such as CNC machining have enabled semi automatic firearms to be produced to extreme tolerances, greatly improving accuracy - an advantage the bolt action always held over self-loading firearms. Presently, the US and UK militaries are replacing their bolt action sniper rifles with semi automatic rifles. Precision target shooters have been aware of these advances for some time and many have long ago moved to semi automatic firearms for competition use, where advantages include the ability to launch a string of aimed shots during quiet periods in changeable wind conditions and allowing shooters with impaired abilities (there are quite a few) to compete on an equal footing.




MEP's must consider the objective of the proposal given;

1. Civilian firearms were not used in Paris;

2. Automatic firearms are mostly banned in the EU and strictly regulated in the few places where available;

3. Stricter regulation would not have prevented/will not prevent any attacks;

4. Representatives should be mindful that they are potentially legislating for a readily-identifiable and registered minority;
5. Proposals should concentrate on illegal firearms trafficking and supply routes.

Representatives should be mindful of the motives of the proposal authors, who removed a recent consultation on EU firearms circulated in 22 languages. With 85,000 respondents - nearly all firearms enthusiasts - recommending no changes to the current firearms ecosystem. It was replaced it by a phone poll, with 26,000 participants who had to be actively sought, as there was little or no interest from the general public in responding to the original research call.
Firearms enthusiasts question the level of general public knowledge on firearms authorisation procedures in their own territories and the veracity or relevance of data gathered from such sources by people who conflate both authorised and illegal firearms in their pejorative reporting.


UPDATE;

emailed several MEP's as per Lk Sovereigns below - just got reply from Matt Carthy

A chara,

Thank you for your e-mail and for drawing attention to some of the specific parts and ramifications of the European Commission’s 18th November proposals.

In light of the recent attacks and security threats, policy makers are attempting to navigate through some difficult reforms. We share your concerns that legislation hastily adopted does not always manage to target the right areas and can sometimes indirectly affect law-abiding citizens. We will follow the proposed reforms closely when they make their way to the Parliament.

Is mise le meas,

Matt Carthy

I have e-mailed my four MEPs (Ireland South Constituency) and asked them if they are in favour of or opposed to this proposal. I did not state what my own position on the matter is.

I will post any replies received.

Could others do the same for the other two constituencies?

European Airsoft Association statement posted to airsoft forum:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=97884013#post97884013

Hope we can get you some more signatures Divided, we fall.


(Copy of their fb statement this morning. Great effort by Matt, who worked on it until 3am.)

207911 as of now has signed

Here is a reply from one MEP.

Dear BattleCorp,

Thank you for your email. Yours is one of a number I have received in relation to this package of measures recently adopted by the European Commission to make it more difficult to acquire firearms in the EU including a revision of the Firearms Directive, an Implementing Regulation on common minimum standards of deactivation of firearms and an action plan against the illegal trafficking of weapons and explosives.

The Implementing Regulation has already been voted on by Member States and the text formally adopted by the College of Commissioners. It will be published immediately in the Official Journal and will enter into force after three months. However, the proposed amendments to the Firearms Directive tabled by the Commission must still be approved by the European Parliament and Council and please be assured I will take all concerns raised to me on board if or when this matter comes before the Parliament.

Kind regards

Is mise le meas

Thing is, you send in a line like that and you're immediately for the "easily rebuffed with a throwaway answer" pile on the grounds that you don't know the law (which may or may not be true, but a mistake that simple lets them say you don't).

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

And "Lakesider" finally shows his true colours and drops all pretence at debate and sinks to trying his hand at insults..LOOOOOSSSSSEEEEERRRRR!!:D:D If those are all my crimes against shooting sports in Ireland saying ammo is expensive or mooting a suggestion that was made YEARS ago by the NASRPC itself..Then guilty.But at least I'm not sitting on my ass keyboard warrioring and slagging others for trying.

Yeha,you dont like being called out do you ?? IOW you have done SFA apart from airing your personal grudges and stupidity.
Heres a tip..If you dont like my posts press the BLOCK button or report them to a Mod if you feel they invade your comfort zone...Otherwise go away and do somthing to save your sport or STFU!! BTW I'll keep this post on file,so when it does happen you will be the first ones here bawling like the big babbies you are about the loss of "your" guns or the diktats from Brussells.And I'll happily repost this on every whine and whinge you have spewed here...No go away and make yourself useful as something inert. Have a nice day :)

Won't happen Grizzly .
The euro zone won't ban guns.
Don't even mention the war. 😨
To many pro gun sports shooters in too many big states. Too much money involved.
My .22rifle costs many many thousands of dollars. ☺

I am not too worried. I just hope I am right this time. And it know you hope I am too.😊
The eu is a political leviathan. A bureaucratic behemoth. It will grind to a halt eventually as did the other bureaucratic monster the USSR.
This will go that way and I will be I happier.
Problem is that we get all the shi t e legislation and none of the logical good stuff.
Our donkeys rush to the altar of PC dickheadedness. They don't care about our rights and wishes.
That is my worry.

Their plan or so it seems.

[https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/service/nachrichten/aktuelle/2015-11-30_stellungnahme_zu_eu-


some opposition.. we are silent!!!!!

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