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Former Waterford Cllr denies corruption charges

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  • #62
    CarrickMcJoe
    Registered Users Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    Ah well, at least when Fred gets out of prison his bit on the side will look even more like his ex wife :D
    and no danger of him sending texts to the wrong person in prison!


  • #63
    ComfyKnickers
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭ComfyKnickers


    Jesus if the ex-wife gets a new fella he'll be fecking terrified to open his mouth about anything lol ;-)


  • #64
    Johnny Johnson
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Johnny Johnson


    You play with fire and you will get burnt. Hopefully a few more get burnt too


  • #65
    Nypd
    Registered Users Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Nypd


    Johnny Johnson wrote: »
    You play with fire and you will get burnt. Hopefully a few more get burnt too

    It's a start !!!
    Hopefully the trend will continue, it will make future politicians think twice before they take a bung


  • #66
    waterford
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭waterford


    Fred took the wrap for all the boys
    and the big man is still riding high free and easy


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  • #67
    MinisterJD
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭MinisterJD


    The big man is just back from watching his horse running at Royal Ascot.!!


  • #68
    Smiley Burnett
    Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Smiley Burnett


    Have ye any clue to what's ACTUALLY going on in this case??? The big man HAS ALREADY BEEN CHARGED in relation to this matter and his CASE IS DUE TO BE HEARD LATER THIS YEAR.

    Some of the commentary that has been written on boards etc in relation to this case is nothing short of a joke!!


  • #69
    spankmemunkey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    Im sure there were alot more who took bungs who are destroying their paper trails as we speak.

    2 of your former Prime ministers were corrupt and took money and bungs all over the place, they were also in the same party

    Bertie Ahern and Charles Haughey, they were the 2 that were caught,

    If the leaders of a party were on the fiddle im sure that it disspated down the line, Ireland is a hugely corrupt country.


  • #70
    Media999
    Registered Users Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭Media999


    "Earlier the court heard from Det Insp Shay Keevans, who arrested Forsey in July 2009, when he returned to Ireland after leaving the country for Australia in June 2007."

    So this chap took 60k and fled to Australia to spend it.

    Deserves every thing that happens to him inside. Hell be mentally and physically tortured for money daily.


  • #71
    mccarthy37
    Registered Users Posts: 646 ✭✭✭mccarthy37


    What would Charlie Haughey make of all this.


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  • #72
    MinisterJD
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭MinisterJD


    So Fred was found guilty of receiving a corrupt payment but the developer who can afford to pay Senior Counsel Patrick Gagesby to represent him is found not guilty of paying it.The mighty Irish Judicial system.


  • #73
    ziedth
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭ziedth


    MinisterJD wrote: »
    So Fred was found guilty of receiving a corrupt payment but the developer who can afford to pay Senior Counsel Patrick Gagesby to represent him is found not guilty of paying it.The mighty Irish Judicial system.

    Is there a link? If it's as straight forward as that then surely yer man has grounds for appeal?


  • #74
    MinisterJD
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭MinisterJD


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/developer-michael-ryan-in-fred-forsey-jr-forsey-case-found-not-guilty-of-80k-bribes-29408496.html


  • #75
    Sully
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Was wondering this yesterday, how odd


  • #76
    MinisterJD
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭MinisterJD


    There are other interesting aspects of this case that have never being highlighted by the media but I don't wish to reveal them on here(not hearsay there is documented evidence to back them up).


  • #77
    Sully
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    MinisterJD wrote: »
    There are other interesting aspects of this case that have never being highlighted by the media but I don't wish to reveal them on here(not hearsay there is documented evidence to back them up).

    Why not?


  • #78
    flutered
    Registered Users Posts: 6,666 ✭✭✭flutered


    an irish answer to an irish problem is it not, one guy is convicted of recieving money from another guy, the other guy is found not guilty of giving the guilty guy money, if it was an episode from mrs browne it would be called ludicrous, with a thread running into a 1,000 posts.


  • #79
    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Had Fred not been engaged as a witness for either the prosecution or the defence in the trial?


  • #80
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    MinisterJD wrote: »
    So Fred was found guilty of receiving a corrupt payment but the developer who can afford to pay Senior Counsel Patrick Gagesby to represent him is found not guilty of paying it.The mighty Irish Judicial system.

    Separate trials with separate verdicts. While cause and effect would seem clear at a glance and that either both or neither are guilty, your average jury is dangerously ignorant and easily swayed while frequently bored.


  • #81
    Smiley Burnett
    Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Smiley Burnett


    certain evidence was heard in the forsey case that wasn't heard in the ryan case, due to his legal team successfully arguing that it be disallowed...

    That's it in a nutshell...


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  • #82
    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Smiley Burnett wrote: »
    certain evidence was heard in the forsey case that wasn't heard in the ryan case, due to his legal team successfully arguing that it be disallowed...

    That's it in a nutshell...
    That would be the Gagesby effect,rich mans defence better than poor mans defence.


  • #83
    MinisterJD
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭MinisterJD


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/forsey-to-appeal-conviction-over-80k-bribes-29419843.html


  • #84
    waterford
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭waterford


    Forsey case was heard in the June2012 and the Ryan case wasn't heard till
    July 2013 yet both were arrested and charged at the same time and was known as the Forsey /Ryan case originally.
    Ryan stated after been found not guilty that 16 others had received non- returnable loans from him. I guess "money talks" or maybe "silence is golden"


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