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Kenny will not debate with Adams on the Vincent Browne Show.

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  • #92
    thecommietommy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 564 ✭✭✭thecommietommy


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Are FG/Labour now telling us that we need a second 'bailout' or not?
    Why do we need a second 'bailout'?
    Why wont FG/Labour tackle the CPA which is costing an absolute fortune to keep?
    Is this why we need a second 'bailout'?
    Heard an interview with Ruari Quinn yesterday and when asked whether we will need a 2nd bailout ( even though Noonan etc told us we won't and all the experts say we will need a 2nd bailout ), his answer was - " who knows what the future will bring " !!!!!!


  • #93
    The Waltzing Consumer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭The Waltzing Consumer


    thecommietommy wrote: »
    Heard an interview with Ruari Quinn yesterday and when asked whether we will need a 2nd bailout ( even though Noonan etc told us we won't and all the experts say we will need a 2nd bailout ), his answer was - " who knows what the future will bring " !!!!!!

    and?

    Seriously, he would be the biggest idiot to give a definite answer. Noonan also said that we might, not we won't, need a bailout. Why in the world would you assume a politician would know for definite if we need a 2nd bailout at the end of 2013? Would you actually vote for someone who gave a definitie answer mid 2012? That sounds bizarre. :confused: Vote yes or no, you're more then welcome, but seriously, to say that senior politicians won't give a definite answer on such a thing is a bad thing is baffling.


  • #94
    goat2
    Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »
    and?

    Seriously, he would be the biggest idiot to give a definite answer. Noonan also said that we might, not we won't, need a bailout. Why in the world would you assume a politician would know for definite if we need a 2nd bailout at the end of 2013? Would you actually vote for someone who gave a definitie answer mid 2012? That sounds bizarre. :confused: Vote yes or no, you're more then welcome, but seriously, to say that senior politicians won't give a definite answer on such a thing is a bad thing is baffling.

    i would expect a senior politician to be able to answer that question, by all means, he is paid highly enough to be well informed about such things, when he answere that we may or may not be needing bailout, rings alarm bells, they are the ones with the information , the advisors, the know, and if it is a maybe, to me that means yes


  • #95
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    goat2 wrote: »
    i would expect a senior politician to be able to answer that question, by all means, he is paid highly enough to be well informed about such things, when he answere that we may or may not be needing bailout, rings alarm bells, they are the ones with the information , the advisors, the know, and if it is a maybe, to me that means yes

    In fairness that probably is a truthful answer given the volatility of markets and politics at the minute. He was criticised before for saying we wouldn't need one, I don't think he can win on this one.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #96
    goat2
    Registered Users Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    my guess is, that with this greek problem now, i would say that the whole lot of the countries in the european union are somewhat uncertain of what happens in the next weeks and months, things seem to be changing day to day


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  • #97
    Sand
    Registered Users Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »
    and?

    Seriously, he would be the biggest idiot to give a definite answer. Noonan also said that we might, not we won't, need a bailout. Why in the world would you assume a politician would know for definite if we need a 2nd bailout at the end of 2013? Would you actually vote for someone who gave a definitie answer mid 2012? That sounds bizarre. :confused: Vote yes or no, you're more then welcome, but seriously, to say that senior politicians won't give a definite answer on such a thing is a bad thing is baffling.

    Enda Kenny has absolutely ruled out the need for a second bailout when talking at Reuters event in London on January 12th of this year. Hes running the country. If hes able to give a definite answer, why cant the rest of them?


  • #98
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »
    and?

    Seriously, he would be the biggest idiot to give a definite answer. Noonan also said that we might, not we won't, need a bailout. Why in the world would you assume a politician would know for definite if we need a 2nd bailout at the end of 2013? Would you actually vote for someone who gave a definitie answer mid 2012? That sounds bizarre. :confused: Vote yes or no, you're more then welcome, but seriously, to say that senior politicians won't give a definite answer on such a thing is a bad thing is baffling.

    Would we not be the biggest idiots of all then if we sign up to this treaty when the whole euro project could come crumbling down in the next couple of years if the greeks default?


  • #99
    Wider Road
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭Wider Road


    Sand wrote: »
    The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »
    and?

    Seriously, he would be the biggest idiot to give a definite answer. Noonan also said that we might, not we won't, need a bailout. Why in the world would you assume a politician would know for definite if we need a 2nd bailout at the end of 2013? Would you actually vote for someone who gave a definitie answer mid 2012? That sounds bizarre. :confused: Vote yes or no, you're more then welcome, but seriously, to say that senior politicians won't give a definite answer on such a thing is a bad thing is baffling.

    Enda Kenny has absolutely ruled out the need for a second bailout when talking at Reuters event in London on January 12th of this year. Hes running the country. If hes able to give a definite answer, why cant the rest of them?



    Is this true?


  • #100
    golfball37
    Registered Users Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Michael Noonans exact words when asked if Ireland would need a 2nd bailout - Ludicrous suggestion, we will be back in the markets by then.


  • #101
    blowtorch
    Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭blowtorch


    Irish Examiner today 'Noonan: Spanish deal may allow us cut debt

    Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/noonan-spanish-deal-may-allow-us-cut-debt-193906.html#ixzz1uvbB5z4Q'

    In other words, Noonan, Kenny & Co. haven't had much success themselves, so if Spain gets a better deal than Ireland did, then they can say 'Sauce for the Goose, Sauce for the Gander' to the EU.

    So in Gilmore-ish terms 'Its Madrid's Way, or it's Frankfurt's way' (But definately not Dublin's way)


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  • #102
    Wider Road
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭Wider Road


    Kenny has said today that he isn't appearing on the TV3 debate even though TV3 has offered to replace Vincent Browne with Ursula Halligan. Pity, I believe Enda would get on ok against Gerry.


  • #103
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,326 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Wider Road wrote: »
    Kenny has said today that he isn't appearing on the TV3 debate even though TV3 has offered to replace Vincent Browne with Ursula Halligan. Pity, I believe Enda would get on ok against Gerry.

    Talk about an understatement.


  • #104
    Defiler Of The Coffin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0518/breaking28.html
    Ireland's bailed-out banks may need as much as €4 billion more loan loss provisions than assumed in stress tests last year, which could "tip the balance in favor" of the country requiring a second aid program, Deutsche Bank said in a report today.

    "A new, even modest, increase in capital requirements could deter sovereign investor participation and tip the balance in favor of the sovereign requiring a second loan program," said Deutsche Bank analysts David Lock and Jason Napier.

    The government's plan to introduce new personal insolvency laws creates "risks", even as politicians and the financial regulators seek to avoid widespread residential mortgage debt forgiveness, the bank said.

    "Although resilient during 2009 and 2010, mortgage arrears have risen sharply over the past year, house prices are continuing to fall, market liquidity is limited, and over half of customers are now in negative equity," said Deutsche Bank analysts in the report. "We fear the size of negative equity balances for some mortgage holders may greatly reduce their incentive to cooperate, pushing them towards default."

    Looks like Deutsche Bank are saying what the Government doesn't want to admit. Maybe we'll see a few more reports like these in the lead up to Thursday week?


  • #105
    thecommietommy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 564 ✭✭✭thecommietommy


    The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »
    and?

    Seriously, he would be the biggest idiot to give a definite answer. Noonan also said that we might, not we won't, need a bailout. Why in the world would you assume a politician would know for definite if we need a 2nd bailout at the end of 2013? Would you actually vote for someone who gave a definitie answer mid 2012? That sounds bizarre. :confused: Vote yes or no, you're more then welcome, but seriously, to say that senior politicians won't give a definite answer on such a thing is a bad thing is baffling.
    Noonan didn't say we might -

    " Finance Minister Michael Noonan said today that he believes Ireland will not need a second bailout.

    Minister Noonan said that a 'Yes' vote in the EU Treaty referendum is essential to us getting back on the markets because it would give us access to the ESM fund which the markets need as back-up.

    "It's not so much that I think we need a second bailout, I actually don't think we do" he said.

    "I think we'll get back into the markets and we'll access market funding.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/noonan-no-need-for-second-bailout-549113.html#ixzz1vDuTeYDy


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