Are fares going up on Dec 1?

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

How about one that stops for him for a start? and you're not jammed in like sardines

he said the bus was full. so if its full and he was let on that would mean he would be jammed in like sardines.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That shows up when it's supposed to 99% of the time

build more bus lanes and have more bus priority.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That isn't infested with the antisocial element plaguing some routes

thats not going to stop. many cities have that problem. they have to travel some way and are whether we like it or not, i don't but its what i know to expect.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That are clean and comfortable and you're not jammed in like sardines

i find them comfortable to be honest. bigger busses or people moving down the bus and up stairs via an anouncement from the driver would help a lot.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That doesn't cost almost as much as the same trip by car or take twice as long

call for a higher subsidy. some routes have to take twice as long as they have to go in to areas along the route to make sure the people have some access to the bus network.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That doesn't take unnecessary detours into "An Lar" or every random housing estate it passes

no bus takes unnecessary detours. they have a route they follow to ensure as much access to public transport as possible. rightly so as everyone is entitled to where possible have some access to public transport.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That doesn't sit parked up for 15-20 mins because DB can't manage its driver changes properly

who says the driver didn't get delayed? but maybe a driver change at the terminus should be looked at instead where possible.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That has an easy-to-use, reliable efficient fully integrated ticket system

that is coming, all though the passengers should write and email pestering the relevant people until such ticketing system is delivered.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That stops pissing away money on new buses that are arguably worse than the ones they replace and which themselves have plenty of life left in them given how they go on to another few years of private operator service

i'd say the days of that nonsense have come to an end now

Monife wrote: »

People claim traffic is the reason for buses not being timely or turning up at the prescribed time when it is in fact down to the inefficiency of Dublin Bus and laziness of the drivers.

I don't know the first thing about you, but I'll just assume you're lazy too.

Monife wrote: »

How do you explain two buses in a row not showing up when the stop I was at was only their 5th stop (a mere 2km journey on an extremely quiet road).

People claim traffic is the reason for buses not being timely or turning up at the prescribed time when it is in fact down to the inefficiency of Dublin Bus and laziness of the drivers.

its to do with traffic. they are probably one or to lazy drivers, every company has someone not pulling their weight, the bigger the company the harder it is to find them

If I buy another 30 day rambler tomorrow, or before the price rise date, I assume I will get it at the old price. Just checking like!

And of course, next question.... I already have twenty days left on my current 30 dayer, so I presume the new one that I'm buying tomorrow will have extended validity?

I use the bus about twice a week for several journeys per day. The 30 day rambler is far better value than the DB cap on Leap fpr me anyway.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

If I buy another 30 day rambler tomorrow, or before the price rise date, I assume I will get it at the old price. Just checking like!

And of course, next question.... I already have twenty days left on my current 30 dayer, so I presume the new one that I'm buying tomorrow will have extended validity?

I use the bus about twice a week for several journeys per day. The 30 day rambler is far better value than the DB cap on Leap fpr me anyway.

It will continue to use the days from your current "live" Rambler,with the new Rambler being stored as part of the 5 products allowed on each card.

It should automatically switch to your new Rambler when the current one expires,however,inexplicably,the expired product will continue to be retained on the card to confuse both staff and customers alike when checking for live products on a card.....

ProudDUB wrote: »

If you buy a new Rambler, does it expire at the end of the calender year in which you buy it, or does it expire 12 months on from when you buy it? My current Rambler expires in December, but I can't remember when I bought it.

Second option,12 months from month of purchase.

Dravokivich wrote: »

There's 2 legs to the service, outbound and inbound. Excessive traffic on one leg will cause delays for the other. This was more visible during all those demonstrations and protests around the dáil and on O'Connell bridge during peak commuting times.

I'm unsure if the laziness of drivers is still as prevelant as it used to be, where they'd loiter amongst themselves one service after the other making their way to the terminus. My da (a driver himself) was surprised by how much he saw it 14/15 years ago. I'd expect there may be some sort of monitoring in place now that they should all have GPS as well. Which should clamp down on that, so if you see a bus that should be in service not doing anything, chances are higher the driver has been told to wait up and pull off for the next time slot.

Considering the two buses were to show up at 7.05am and 7.15am, I doubt traffic was the cause of the no shows seeing as the outbound journey would have supposedly arrived at the end destination at around 6.55am to then commence the inward journey.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

How about one that stops for him for a start?

- That shows up when it's supposed to 99% of the time
- That isn't infested with the antisocial element plaguing some routes
- That are clean and comfortable and you're not jammed in like sardines
- That doesn't cost almost as much as the same trip by car or take twice as long
- That doesn't take unnecessary detours into "An Lar" or every random housing estate it passes
- That doesn't sit parked up for 15-20 mins because DB can't manage its driver changes properly
- That has an easy-to-use, reliable efficient fully integrated ticket system
- That stops pissing away money on new buses that are arguably worse than the ones they replace and which have plenty of life left in them given how they go on to another few years of private operator service

Hell, I'd even consider a service like that

hate much?

lxflyer wrote: »

At this stage the amount they get is nowhere near what it ought to be in terms of numbers carried.

Or... they just start cracking down on the rampant abuse of this scheme so that only genuine cases and paying passengers can actually get on the bus.

In about 3.5 years, the taxsaver ticket for just Dublin Bus has gone from €980 to €1320, a 35% increase.

Obviously there's tax saved on that, and this works out as:
2011 high tax rate - €480
2014 high tax rate - €647

2011 low tax rate - €690
2014 low tax rate - €911

On the low rate tax saver ticket now, you are almost paying as much as a full price ticket from 2011.
Prices pulled from: http://web.archive.org/web/20110321182728/http://www.taxsaver.ie/Ticket-Types/

Where is all the extra money from these incessant price hikes going?

beglee wrote: »

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Where is all the extra money from these incessant price hikes going?

firstly, CIE or the transport operator gets the full amount of cash for the ticket, its the goverment who takes the hit on lower tax income.

so.....
you should ask is "who is paying the difference" (of a governmental spend on what is far from an essential item).
And the answer is, it just adds to the gov defecit meaning the cash is borrowed.

And that means that your saving on the travel ticket is going to be paid by future generations in repayments on government debt.

beglee wrote: »

That has nothing to do with what I asked, and is a completely separate issue.

As you say the transport operator gets the full amount. And that full amount has gone up 35% in 3.5 years. Where does it all go?

Much of it goes to make up the reduced government subvention which in turn could finance the tax credit?