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Another DART strike?

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    #32
    stehyl15
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    Surely trade unions won't support the drivers as thats potenial members lost


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    #33
    Wild Garlic
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    stehyl15 wrote: »
    Surely trade unions won't support the drivers as thats potenial members lost

    I'd imagine the trainees are already members of SIPTU/MBRU as they were recruited internally.


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    Heisenberg1
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    The past is the past, a lot has changed and I'm sure staff well know it. I would sooner pay the lowest paid staff who were cut earlier this year than pay 80 quid to drivers who are well paid in general.

    Do Intercity drivers get such pay to oversee people?

    I assume any action would be an all out strike and not just DART drivers.

    IE should pay the drivers for mentoring a trainee yes IC drivers would get the same allowance the drivers are taking on the responsibility of a trainee if he makes a mistake the mentor driver takes the blame it's fair reward for the added responsibility.


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    Heisenberg1
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    Losty Dublin wrote: »
    Dart paths are actually pre programmed on CTC computers and clear automatically as the train proceed down track . The signalman doesn't have to do anything bar click on a mouse to clear the path and to make sure it's still moving :)

    Besides they don't supervise the boarding and alighting at stations, this being the drivers concern.

    Really and who maintains the safety of all trains during there journeys the signalman does.


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    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,667 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Heisenberg1 wrote: »
    IE should pay the drivers for mentoring a trainee yes IC drivers would get the same allowance the drivers are taking on the responsibility of a trainee if he makes a mistake the mentor driver takes the blame it's fair reward for the added responsibility.

    If IE took the responsibility away from the drivers do you honestly believe they wouldn't watching over them.

    This is about money simple.


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    cdebru
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    If IE took the responsibility away from the drivers do you honestly believe they wouldn't watching over them.

    This is about money simple.

    Of course it is about money, if you ask someone to take on extra work you pay them for it, train drivers are not running a charity.


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    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,667 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    cdebru wrote: »
    Of course it is about money, if you ask someone to take on extra work you pay them for it, train drivers are not running a charity.

    It's no extra work the drivers are still sitting and watching in the cab.

    If you are going to give them extra pay then 80 euro per week is a joke should be at least half that.


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    Losty Dublin
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    It's no extra work the drivers are still sitting and watching in the cab.

    If you are going to give them extra pay then 80 euro per week is a joke should be at least half that.

    The issue here is one of responsibility, not money. If one of these new drivers is in the cab then the experienced driver is responsible for them and what they do or don't do on his shift, mistakes and all. The drivers are also taking on work which was chiefly the responsibility of the Irish Rail training school and local inspectors and not the drivers.


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    cdebru
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    It's no extra work the drivers are still sitting and watching in the cab.

    If you are going to give them extra pay then 80 euro per week is a joke should be at least half that.

    Of course it's extra work, they don't normally have to mentor a trainee driver do they ? How is €2 an hour to mentor a trainee a joke ?


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    loyatemu
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    Just surprised training/mentoring new staff is not part of the regular job description - it is in most jobs. Nonetheless if they have an agreement saying they get paid for it, the company should stick to the agreement.


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