Smalia. Perfect location for a rigged 9/11 spectacular to justify a global (NWO) navy

Run_to_da_hills · 15-04-2009 7:12am

This "spectacular" may now be closer than we think.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jiPfFp1FDSmocjugNu0SX_kgOlXg

robtri · 15-04-2009 8:16am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

This "spectacular" may now be closer than we think.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jiPfFp1FDSmocjugNu0SX_kgOlXg

can you please tell where in this article, it says anything about a NWO global navy and all the other things you have come up with???

Black Swan · 15-04-2009 8:37am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

What would happen if this ship or one similar exploded in another well photographed rigged 9/11 type spectacular with the loss of everyone on board? A huge environments catastrophe, Of course Islamic insurgents getting the blame, global panic to rapidly usher in a special international task force to police the worlds oceans.

We now have "What if" conspiracies?

Piracy has been a problem for hundreds of years. Wasn't there a big fuss created by the press when former US President Gerald Ford sent the US Navy into the Indian Ocean after pirates in 1975? Did any "spectacular" rigged event occur afterwords to justify the creation of a global navy?

"Ironic that MAERSK ALABAMA is owned/operated by same owner/operator of SS MAYAGUEZ seized by Cambodian pirates in May 1975?"
Source: http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/09/morning-buzz-pirates-hold-american-captain-hostage/

"While many commentators have recalled Thomas Jefferson and his battles with the Barbary pirates (“the shores of Tripoli”), a more instructive comparison to the latest encounter might be drawn from President Gerald Ford’s handling of the Mayaguez incident that started on May 12, 1975."
Source: http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/76324.html

No global navy after Thomas Jefferson? No global navy after Gerald Ford? What's the US Navy now?

Capt'n Midnight · 15-04-2009 8:44am

The US navy is bigger than the next 17 put together so where is the NWO supposed to get the ships.

Oil tankers burn they don't explode in the way that fertilizer ships do.

Ammonium nitrate explosions have wiped out ports and killed thousands in the past and still no NWO navy.

meglome · 15-04-2009 2:33pm

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

seems as if a "global navy" would benefit some more than others;

http://www.pr-inside.com/israeli-revealed-as-owner-of-south-sudan-bound-weapons-ship-r850322.htm

http://www.sudanvisiondaily.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7407

http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article7099

As sweet Jesus, bad enough the rubbish that Rtdh is claiming. But now 'the Jews' are in on it too. Lot's of people and companies own lot's of ship registered in lot's of countries so ****ing what. Or are you now saying Jew=Zionist?
And in all fairness the Sudanese government have been shown to be complicit in the murder of their own people so I'll take what they say with a big pinch of salt if you don't mind.

As others have mentioned I'm starting to really see the benefits of the NWO thanks to Rtdh.

Run_to_da_hills · 15-04-2009 3:17pm

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

We now have "What if" conspiracies?

Piracy has been a problem for hundreds of years. Wasn't there a big fuss created by the press when former US President Gerald Ford sent the US Navy into the Indian Ocean after pirates in 1975? Did any "spectacular" rigged event occur afterwords to justify the creation of a global navy?

"Ironic that MAERSK ALABAMA is owned/operated by same owner/operator of SS MAYAGUEZ seized by Cambodian pirates in May 1975?"
Source: http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/09/morning-buzz-pirates-hold-american-captain-hostage/

"While many commentators have recalled Thomas Jefferson and his battles with the Barbary pirates (“the shores of Tripoli”), a more instructive comparison to the latest encounter might be drawn from President Gerald Ford’s handling of the Mayaguez incident that started on May 12, 1975."
Source: http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/76324.html

No global navy after Thomas Jefferson? No global navy after Gerald Ford? What's the US Navy now?

Difference is that this has got totally out of control. The Somali Pirates have their two fingers up at the worlds elite navies. Insurance is going to sky rocket, if not already for any ship passing the Suez and out as far as traffic coming from up the cape of Good Hope.

What me may see in the near future is legislation for electronic GPS based registration for any craft in International waters irrespective of size or nationalities. This legislation could also be in forced to curtail drug trafficking, migrating refugees and terrorist movement. A list of anyone on board would have to be logged, the purpose of journey, cargo etc. Those that do not conform could be blown out of the water by the international task force.

9/11 brought in strict microchip tagging for passports and ID cards across the globe. It shook up international air travel and security. Something similar is now badly needed to shake up international marine travel and all it takes is something big to happen to create a need for such.

thecommander · 15-04-2009 3:39pm

meglome wrote: »

As others have mentioned I'm starting to really see the benefits of the NWO thanks to Rtdh.

I'd have to agree. He's pointed out that it will lower crime rate, fraud, black markets, illegal immigration, lost pets, help with medical records, sharing of police resources, and plenty more.

I for one welcome our new overlords.

Run_to_da_hills · 15-04-2009 4:01pm

thecommander wrote: »

I'd have to agree. He's pointed out that it will lower crime rate, fraud, black markets, illegal immigration, lost pets, help with medical records, sharing of police resources, and plenty more.

I agree with ya, until such time as they start implanting us with microchips. :rolleyes:

thecommander · 15-04-2009 4:11pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I agree with ya, until such time as they start implanting us with microchips. :rolleyes:

So the NWO is a good thing until the chips go in?

robtri · 15-04-2009 4:19pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I agree with ya, until such time as they start implanting us with microchips. :rolleyes:

something else you have no proof off....

Capt'n Midnight · 15-04-2009 4:29pm

If the situation is really bad then ships can be convoyed through

Maybe it's part of the fight against global warming

Somalia has the highest number of Pirates AND the lowest Carbon emissions of any country. Coincidence?

Run_to_da_hills · 15-04-2009 4:30pm

thecommander wrote: »

So the NWO is a good thing until the chips go in?

The ultimate goal of the Globalists elite is to track & trace every man woman and child on this planet.

King Mob · 15-04-2009 4:35pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

If the situation is really bad then ships can be convoyed through

Maybe it's part of the fight against global warming

Somalia has the highest number of Pirates AND the lowest Carbon emissions of any country. Coincidence?

Oh please tell me that's true.

EDIT: Yes it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

Capt'n Midnight · 15-04-2009 5:40pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The ultimate goal of the Globalists elite is to track & trace every man woman and child on this planet.

*sigh*

How often do I have to remind people this has already happened ?

In the last 6 years the number of people who can be tracked and traced has gone from 1 billion to 4.1 Billion. That's 61% of the global population.

meglome · 15-04-2009 5:44pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The ultimate goal of the Globalists elite is to track & trace every man woman and child on this planet.

Can you remind me why again?

King Mob · 15-04-2009 5:46pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The ultimate goal of the Globalists elite is to track & trace every man woman and child on this planet.

But why?
What benefit would tracking 6 billion people give?

thecommander · 15-04-2009 5:49pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The ultimate goal of the Globalists elite is to track & trace every man woman and child on this planet.

Is there a timeframe on the chipping? Cos if its a few hundred years away then I welcome the side effects of it.

meglome · 15-04-2009 5:56pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

*sigh*

How often do I have to remind people this has already happened ?

In the last 6 years the number of people who can be tracked and traced has gone from 1 billion to 4.1 Billion. That's 61% of the global population.

The fact that the majority of the people on the planet who can afford a mobile have one and can therefore be tracked doesn't fit into Rtdh's fantasy I'm afraid. It's all about the penetration with Rtdh.

Run_to_da_hills · 15-04-2009 6:34pm

meglome wrote: »

The fact that the majority of the people on the planet who can afford a mobile have one and can therefore be tracked doesn't fit into Rtdh's fantasy I'm afraid. It's all about the penetration with Rtdh.

Mobile Phones are not a true tracking system, numbers /IMEI can still be bought RTG off the shelf in supermarkets unregistered, they can get lost, stolen and change hands legally without any form of registration. Any professional criminal will know how to cover his digital prints using these devices.

meglome · 15-04-2009 6:41pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Mobile Phones are not a true tracking system, numbers /IMEI can still be bought RTG off the shelf in supermarkets unregistered, they can get lost, stolen and change hands legally without any form of registration. Any professional criminal will know how to cover his digital prints using these devices.

So the chipping would only be needed for professional criminals then?

King Mob · 15-04-2009 6:42pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Mobile Phones are not a true tracking system, numbers /IMEI can be bought RTG off the shelf in supermarkets unregistered, they can get lost, stolen and change hands legally without any form of registration. Any professional criminal will know how to cover his digital prints using these devices.

And RFID chips will be hacked, removed and faked. Why would they spend all that time and money to introduce a system no better than mobile phones?

Run_to_da_hills · 15-04-2009 6:47pm

meglome wrote: »

So the chipping would only be needed for professional criminals then?

No, unfortunitally just like current EU mandates that imposes invasive data retention of mobile phone and email we are all guilty.

King Mob · 15-04-2009 6:50pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

No, unfortunitally just like current EU mandates that imposes invasive data retention of mobile phone and email we are all guilty.

Guilty of what?
If we're all guilty why aren't we being punished?
Which mandate says treat everyone as if they're guilty?

And how would better tracking of ships near Somalia lead to us all being chipped?

bonkey · 15-04-2009 8:32pm

King Mob wrote: »

But why?
What benefit would tracking 6 billion people give?

It would add far more noise to mask signal.

Oh wait....that's a benefit for those being tracked....probably not what you wanted.

Woger · 15-04-2009 9:14pm

Are tinfoil hats easily tracked?

Black Swan · 15-04-2009 11:31pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

What me may see in the near future is legislation for electronic GPS based registration for any craft in International waters irrespective of size or nationalities.

GPS tracking is already being done (and has been for several years), but not by government legislation (or by some government conspiracy), rather by corporations interested in maximizing their profits by attempting to improve transportation efficiencies. Time in shipping costs money, and reducing shipping time increases shipping profits for ships and trucks.

I live on a boat. It is GPS linked and tracked. We use it for better navigation purposes, and hope that in a fog some freighter sees our GPS location and doesn't run over us in the Santa Barbara Channel! Plus, if we spring a leak we can't overcome with our pumps, the US Coast Guard can find us fast. And if in port we don't want to be found, we can simply turn it off, ha!

Do you own a mobile phone? Almost all the new ones now have GPS built into them. Why? Not because of some government conspiracy to track citizens, but rather by corporations that want to track and analyze phone customers in terms of their movements and interests, so that they can tailor their mobile hardware/software to satisfy customer needs for signal strength, reduce blackout areas, etc. Also these mobile providers often sell the data on their clients to third party advertisers. Customer demographic analysis was started decades ago by SRI (and now many similar firms), to analyze customer patterns of behavior, in order to better understand and consequently sell more products to them.

Parents in the US are now buying software to track their children using the GPS that is installed on their mobile phones. Is this a conspiracy of parents against the freedom of their kids?

Maybe you saw an old film from the States that mentioned LoJack? Covergirl Cindy starred in it with one of the Baldwin brothers? The radio signal has now been replaced with a GPS tracking system that customers buy to increase the likelihood that their stolen auto will be recovered? Is this a conspiracy of auto owners against auto thieves?

Conspiracies by their nature tend to be hidden from the public eye (at least at first). The commercialisation of GPS for shipping efficiencies or for commercial purposes is not hidden, but has been known, published in magazine and scholarly journals, and taught in many of the better business schools of universities about the world.

The same can be said for RFID tracking systems, or the chips that ID what products they are attached to. Large food market corporations in the United States have been using RFID chips attached to products not to track their customers, but rather to make inventory control more efficient, so that shelves of fast selling products are filled through a just-in-time method to maximize customer sales and profits. This too is not hidden, but rather published and also taught to students of the better business schools at universities about the world.

I'm surprised that someone has not cried wolf (conspiracy! conspiracy! conspiracy!) about how the US Treasury manufactures its currency. Except for the $1 bill, the new larger denominations have an embedded strip, which, when you have a large stack of $5, $10, $20, $50, or $100 bills, they can be detected by US Treasury agents (or other agents) with a special sensor. Illegal money transactions typically involve large piles of currency, and with this detection method, it increases the likelihood of discovering criminal activity (it's also used to make it harder to counterfeit). Of course the smart criminals already know this, but it does catch the stupid ones every now and then. Now someone could yell, conspiracy, conspiracy, now that the government can track my pile of money in my mattress should they visit my flat (now berth on boat), but who in their right mind would want a pile of money rather than have it stored electronically in an FDIC insured bank account?

We are now in the 21st Century, where electronic tracking is done by corporations and is associated with increasing profits. Governments don't have to pass special legislation to track people or ships, because the corporations are already doing it de facto when you buy their products or ship things. That does not mean there will not be government abuse. When the George W. Bush administration in McCarty Era fashion accessed millions of innocent AT&T corporation customer records, emails, and phone calls claiming national security as justification is a case in point.

But yelling CONSPIRACY! is so much more fun!

Capt'n Midnight · 16-04-2009 12:13am

Woger wrote: »

Are tinfoil hats easily tracked?

LOL

http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

Results
For all helmets, we noticed a 30 db amplification at 2.6 Ghz and a 20 db amplification at 1.2 Ghz, regardless of the position of the antenna on the cranium. In addition, all helmets exhibited a marked 20 db attenuation at around 1.5 Ghz, with no significant attenuation beyond 10 db anywhere else.
Conclusion
The helmets amplify frequency bands that coincide with those allocated to the US government between 1.2 Ghz and 1.4 Ghz. According to the FCC, These bands are supposedly reserved for ''radio location'' (ie, GPS), and other communications with satellites (see, for example, [3]). The 2.6 Ghz band coincides with mobile phone technology. Though not affiliated by government, these bands are at the hands of multinational corporations.

It requires no stretch of the imagination to conclude that the current helmet craze is likely to have been propagated by the Government, possibly with the involvement of the FCC. We hope this report will encourage the paranoid community to develop improved helmet designs to avoid falling prey to these shortcomings.

Run_to_da_hills · 16-04-2009 1:07am

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

GPS tracking is already being done (and has been for several years), but not by government legislation (or by some government conspiracy), rather by corporations interested in maximizing their profits by attempting to improve transportation efficiencies. Time in shipping costs money, and reducing shipping time increases shipping profits for ships and trucks.!

This is exactly how the UPC /EAN barcode came about. Conceived in 1974 as a voluntary stocktaking aid it has now evolved into a compulsory globally accepted standard, GPS in shipping can only go down that way, we will have EU imposing it on craft as with the US and far east, a standard will be reached and all data shared among the authorities.

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

I live on a boat. It is GPS linked and tracked. We use it for better navigation purposes, and hope that in a fog some freighter sees our GPS location and doesn't run over us in the Santa Barbara Channel! Plus, if we spring a leak we can't overcome with our pumps, the US Coast Guard can find us fast. And if in port we don't want to be found, we can simply turn it off, ha!
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Certainly GPS has its advantages, Lighthouses are not needed anymore except for small yachts and pleasure craft that don't pay shipping dues towards lighthouse up keep . I use to work for the Irish Light House service. Like anything else GPS can be used in reverse to track and trace just like the UPC Barcode when used in conjunction with registered loyalty, debit and credit cards.

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

Do you own a mobile phone? Almost all the new ones now have GPS built into them. Why? Not because of some government conspiracy to track citizens, but rather by corporations that want to track and analyze phone customers in terms of their movements and interests, so that they can tailor their mobile hardware/software to satisfy customer needs for signal strength, reduce blackout areas, etc. Also these mobile providers often sell the data on their clients to third party advertisers. Customer demographic analysis was started decades ago by SRI (and now many similar firms), to analyze customer patterns of behavior, in order to better understand and consequently sell more products to them.!

Unfortunately through our own and EU legislation service providers and mobile phone companies are obliged to retain and or hand this data over to the authorities. Recent EU legislation allows such data be maintained LIVE for a year for various state Dept's to monitor. One of these new so called "anti terrorism" laws.

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

Parents in the US are now buying software to track their children using the GPS that is installed on their mobile phones. Is this a conspiracy of parents against the freedom of their kids?!

The authorities had this software for years, along with another one called "Phone Dead" that will turn most current 3G phones into a highly accurate roving bug even when switched off!

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

Maybe you saw an old film from the States that mentioned LoJack? Covergirl Cindy starred in it with one of the Baldwin brothers? The radio signal has now been replaced with a GPS tracking system that customers buy to increase the likelihood that their stolen auto will be recovered? Is this a conspiracy of auto owners against auto thieves?

GPS along with RFID will eventually be a requirement in all new cars. It will be brought in under the usual "congestion charge Trojan" to monitor and carbon tax cars by their movements. The EU proposed something of this nature this just last month. RFID was proposed in Portugal to be fitted compulsory to all cars, all dogs must be chipped in Portugal by law.

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

Conspiracies by their nature tend to be hidden from the public eye (at least at first). The commercialization of GPS for shipping efficiencies or for commercial purposes is not hidden, but has been known, published in magazine and scholarly journals, and taught in many of the better business schools of universities about the world.

Nothing evil or wrong about any such technology, its about how-its enforced, its requirements etc. It may come a time in the near future when you cannot board any ship or pleasure craft without "touching" your card. Same will be for trains, busses, and all forms of public transport.

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

The same can be said for RFID tracking systems, or the chips that ID what products they are attached to. Large food market corporations in the United States have been using RFID chips attached to products not to track their customers, but rather to make inventory control more efficient, so that shelves of fast selling products are filled through a just-in-time method to maximize customer sales and profits. This too is not hidden, but rather published and also taught to students of the better business schools at universities about the world..

As I said before all this technology will leave digital fingerprints once a registered card is used as we head down the cashless route the more invasive it gets.

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

I'm surprised that someone has not cried wolf (conspiracy! conspiracy! conspiracy!) about how the US Treasury manufactures its currency. Except for the $1 bill, the new larger denominations have an embedded strip, which, when you have a large stack of $5, $10, $20, $50, or $100 bills, they can be detected by US Treasury agents (or other agents) with a special sensor. Illegal money transactions typically involve large piles of currency, and with this detection method, it increases the likelihood of discovering criminal activity (it's also used to make it harder to counterfeit). Of course the smart criminals already know this, but it does catch the stupid ones every now and then. Now someone could yell, conspiracy, conspiracy, now that the government can track my pile of money in my mattress should they visit my flat (now berth on boat), but who in their right mind would want a pile of money rather than have it stored electronically in an FDIC insured bank account?..

Some say all Euro denominations over e20 are Etagged with Hitachi Powder chips using the metal strip as an antenna, Could well be true as the same technology is used in event tickets to stamp out forgery and touts.

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

We are now in the 21st Century, where electronic tracking is done by corporations and is associated with increasing profits. Governments don't have to pass special legislation to track people or ships, because the corporations are already doing it de facto when you buy their products or ship things. That does not mean there will not be government abuse. When the George W. Bush administration in McCarty Era fashion accessed millions of innocent AT&T corporation customer records, emails, and phone calls claiming national security as justification is a case in point.But yelling CONSPIRACY! is so much more fun!

What is happening now, corporations have set up the ground work, Ie service providers, transit smart card systems, Etagging in supermarkets, ETC, the authorities come along and request records, they get a taste for it and want more just like putting a beggar on a horse, eventually getting full live access. This is currently happening in the UK.

Black Swan · 16-04-2009 6:07am

Little of this emerging tracking technology mentioned here is hidden, ergo lacking a basic fundamental of a conspiracy? If you stay informed, you can observe GPS, RFID, and related tracking technologies as they are researched, designed, and implemented. Most of the things I mentioned earlier in this thread have been featured in high circulation magazines like WIRED, Popular Mechanics, Scientific American, etc., or by just web surfing using key word searches. We may not like corporate tracking cookies or government snooping, per se, but to claim that such action qualifies as a full blown conspiracy I believe is a bit much.

Run_to_da_hills · 16-04-2009 7:42am

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

Little of this emerging tracking technology mentioned here is hidden, ergo lacking a basic fundamental of a conspiracy? If you stay informed, you can observe GPS, RFID, and related tracking technologies as they are researched, designed, and implemented. Most of the things I mentioned earlier in this thread have been featured in high circulation magazines like WIRED, Popular Mechanics, Scientific American, etc., or by just web surfing using key word searches. We may not like corporate tracking cookies or government snooping, per se, but to claim that such action qualifies as a full blown conspiracy I believe is a bit much.

I Mentioned this in a previous tread of an article by Alex Foss in the Financial Times regarding the end to Privacy by 2013. Even since December when this was published we have lost more of our rights due to new EU Invasive laws.

It is only a matter of time before the dots are connected between all this new wonderful technology.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/acd2c66c-c0da-11dd-b0a8-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1

Smalia. Perfect location for a rigged 9/11 spectacular to justify a global (NWO) navy

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