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16-01-2013 12:17pm#1
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Great Idea, and thanks for the efforts in putting it together.
I was looking at the map at http://metaphor.serveftp.org/mapping/ , it seems a bit hard to isolate the providers.
Our little scheme here in orange is blocked by another provider and there is also another provider underneath that cannot be seen either, It would be nice to be able to peel back the layers and see who is who.
I can also tell you that some of the providers coverage (In my area anyhow) is greatly over estimated
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Great Idea, and thanks for the efforts in putting it together.
I was looking at the map at http://metaphor.serveftp.org/mapping/ , it seems a bit hard to isolate the providers.
Our little scheme here in orange is blocked by another provider and there is also another provider underneath that cannot be seen either, It would be nice to be able to peel back the layers and see who is who.
I can also tell you that some of the providers coverage (In my area anyhow) is greatly over estimated
There are discussions going on about the overlap issue, and grouping/layering is one solution that is possible. With regard to overstatement of areas, it's in nobody's interest to lead potential customers up the garden path only to disappoint in the end, but the incentive to overstate is undeniable. Any ideas on that?
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There are discussions going on about the overlap issue, and grouping/layering is one solution that is possible. With regard to overstatement of areas, it's in nobody's interest to lead potential customers up the garden path only to disappoint in the end, but the incentive to overstate is undeniable. Any ideas on that?
Its one of those cannot be avoided I guess, unless one heads off out canvassing houses in every area in the country to see what provider they are with but thats not going to happen for several reasons.
But in thinking about it there is a positive side to also to overstating the territory, if a provider gets a certain number calls from an area that they claim to cover but presently are not then that provider may see fit to provide cover in that area
I wonder if you could tie in ratemyisp.ie information with the map?IrelandOffline_ wrote: »Basically if you look on the right side you get a list of the providers in the area, if you click on one you can see the coverage for that provider. Perhaps not very intuitive but we're always open to suggestions.
Ah, I see the link now on the RHS, that's all good.
It's a little bit complicated for the first time user a little tutorial slide show/video would be a nice idea me thinks, I could volunteer a bit of time to that if ye thought it was a good idea.
P.S. That should be West Waterford Community Broadband rather than West Waterford Broadband, the community is important to us.0 -
The other consideration is just how hard a problem it is to reliably predict coverage. There are free coverage prediction tools and expensive ones; there are free sources of terrain data and expensive ones. And none of them can tell you about the tree that's strategically placed between Aunty Maureen's house and the one high site she would otherwise be able to see.With regard to overstatement of areas, it's in nobody's interest to lead potential customers up the garden path only to disappoint in the end, but the incentive to overstate is undeniable.
Speaking for myself, I run prediction models with a few different variables, and examine the generated coverage maps to compare with my knowledge of what coverage is actually like. When I find a model that seems reasonably accurate for a few high sites, I let it run for our whole network.
I end up having to make a decision on whether to over- or underestimate coverage. Sure, I don't want to disappoint someone who calls, but - from a commercial perspective - it's better than having someone not bother calling because we've effectively told them that we won't be able to help them.
tl;dr: coverage prediction is hard, cut us some slack.
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oscarBravo wrote: »tl;dr: coverage prediction is hard, cut us some slack.
I have no doubt that Maureen's big bush as scuppered a lot of people along the way and I understand that there is an acceptable tolerance but then there is just pure outrageous, I see one national provider marked on the map supposedly covering an area (Clashmore) and they have never been there as a matter of fact they scaled down there operation and retracted back within 15mls of the area about three years ago.
Its one of those things I guess, the information on the map will never be perfect but at least the map one major step in the right direction to giving some indication of whats available..0 -
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Thurles exchange is missing. We have UPC well over 10 years in Thurles and yet most people are still with Eircom it's unbelievable how stupid most people are not to switch to upc just because they are with Eircom since it was P&T Telecom Éireann
To add Premier Broadband is missing www.premierbroadband.net serves parts of North/South Tipperary0 -
chris2008x wrote: »Thurles exchange is missing. We have UPC well over 10 years in Thurles and yet most people are still with Eircom it's unbelievable how stupid most people are not to switch to upc just because they are with Eircom since it was P&T Telecom Éireann
To add Premier Broadband is missing www.premierbroadband.net serves parts of North/South Tipperary
yes we have the wrong co-ordinates for the exchange...do you happen to know where it is and could mark it on a map?
We contacted all the wisps and very few of them were interested so unless they give us coverage maps there's not a lot we can do...0 -
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I get a blank main window on both those, just the sidebar on left. All scripts allowed. A popup asks me if I want to share location and I click no.
It only shows a Map if I click yes to share location. Surely if you click no it should load anyway with centre of Ireland.
Besides Geoloaction could be mad wrong or Work rather than home, or a cyber cafe and you want to find out about home or a new house?
Or am I holding it wrong? 0 -
Assuming you're using Firefox, it's because the browser never times out when asking for permission. I've added a work around, which needs to be reviewed. Should be available shortly.which is now up on irelandoffline.org/map/I get a blank main window on both those, just the sidebar on left. All scripts allowed. A popup asks me if I want to share location and I click no.
It should, and does in other browsers (incl. mobile)Surely if you click no it should load anyway with centre of Ireland.
We have to start somewhere. Right now, if you don't want to tell us where you are, we start in Athlone. If you do want to tell us where you are, we start there. We can't second guess where you live (!), and starting in Athlone/Birr/etc. is a poor user experience (given that the vast majority of users won't be from there). So, it's not perfect (as no such solution exists), but it's a good start. Most people are more likely to live closer to their work, than Athlone; so it's not a big deal (for most users).Besides Geoloaction could be mad wrong or Work rather than home, or a cyber cafe and you want to find out about home or a new house?
Yes; of course!Or am I holding it wrong?0 -
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I get a blank main window on both those, just the sidebar on left. All scripts allowed. A popup asks me if I want to share location and I click no.
It only shows a Map if I click yes to share location. Surely if you click no it should load anyway with centre of Ireland.
Besides Geoloaction could be mad wrong or Work rather than home, or a cyber cafe and you want to find out about home or a new house?
Or am I holding it wrong?
I can only assume you are using firefox and this issue is reported as a bug in Mozilla but marked as wont fix...silly firefox.
Works ok in IE but is a bit slow. Works great in Chrome....and on my mobile (chrome too)0
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