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Dialect

  • 19-08-2015 9:46pm
    #1
    jbb123
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭


    I was just wondering if the irish spoken on Inis Oírr is different compared to Connacht irish? If it is do you know any sample phrases?


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  • #2
    AnLonDubh
    Registered Users Posts: 216 ✭✭AnLonDubh


    Well Connacht Irish includes Mayo Irish and Galway Irish, which one do you want to compare it to?


  • #3
    jbb123
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭jbb123


    AnLonDubh wrote: »
    Well Connacht Irish includes Mayo Irish and Galway Irish, which one do you want to compare it to?

    I would like to compare it to Galway Irish.


  • #4
    tuisginideach
    Registered Users Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    It's different in a similar way to the difference between the English spoken, for example, in Skerries and in Malahide, or in Blessington and in Bray.

    If you're still at the stage of learning Irish (rather than studying dialects in detail) I doubt that you would notice the difference.


  • #5
    jbb123
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭jbb123


    tuisginideach wrote: »
    It's different in a similar way to the difference between the English spoken, for example, in Skerries and in Malahide, or in Blessington and in Bray.

    If you're still at the stage of learning Irish (rather than studying dialects in detail) I doubt that you would notice the difference.

    I am just curious if there is any difference. I am already pretty fluent.


  • #6
    Comhairleoir
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭Comhairleoir


    See link p. 246

    I can't post links so i'll split it with -- --

    http://eprints.maynoothuniversity.ie/4649/1/BOC_die%20araner.pdf


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  • #7
    dubhthach
    Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭dubhthach


    Aran doesn't seem to have feature of /n/ is realized as [r] (or is replaced by /r/) after consonants other than .

    So for example in Connacht and Ulster Cnoc is usually prononunced as Croc, likewise Mna as Mra. Aran seems to have kept original sound like in Munster Irish.

    croc-isogloss.png


  • #8
    AnLonDubh
    Registered Users Posts: 216 ✭✭AnLonDubh


    jbb123 wrote: »
    I would like to compare it to Galway Irish.
    Among the Galway dialects, Cois Fharraige (the area closest to Galway city) is the most divergent, the dialect of Aran is very similar to that of the rest of Galway. Now there are two ways I can do this, describe only Aran's deviation from the dialect of Ceantar na nOileán (the sort of average Galway dialect). Or describe Galway's features in general and only then Aran's differences.

    Are you familiar with the features that make Galway Irish different from the other dialects (e.g. case differences, verb formation, copular structure)?


  • #9
    dubhthach
    Registered Users Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭dubhthach


    AnLonDubh wrote: »
    Among the Galway dialects, Cois Fharraige (the area closest to Galway city) is the most divergent, the dialect of Aran is very similar to that of the rest of Galway. Now there are two ways I can do this, describe only Aran's deviation from the dialect of Ceantar na nOileán (the sort of average Galway dialect). Or describe Galway's features in general and only then Aran's differences.

    Are you familiar with the features that make Galway Irish different from the other dialects (e.g. case differences, verb formation, copular structure)?

    Tbh even if he isn't unfamiliar I think it would make for an interesting post anyways.


  • #10
    tuisginideach
    Registered Users Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    http://tuairisc.ie/saothar-nua-ar-ghaeilge-arann-le-seoladh-an-mhi-seo-chugainn/
    Seolfaidh an tOllamh Nollaig Mac Congáil Suirbhé ar an nGaeilge Labhartha in Oileáin Árann, Co. na Gaillimhe, ar an Aoine, an 9 Deireadh Fómhair ag 1.30 i dTéatar Uí Chearbhalláin, Áras na Gaeilge, Ollscoil na Éireann, Gaillimh.

    Is é an Dr Séamas Ó Direáin as California ach ar de shliocht Árann é, a chuir an saothar seo i dtoll a chéile, saothar a bhfuil cúig bliana is fiche dá shaol caite aige ina bhun.

    Staidéar mionchruinn canúineolaíochta ar an nGaeilge labhartha in Oileáin Árann atá sa suirbhé seo agus díríonn sé go háirithe ar na difríochtaí tíreolaíocha agus sóisialta a bhaineann leis na glúnta, idir shean agus óg, agus na difríochtaí a bhí idir buachaillí agus cailíní, fir agus mná, agus an leibhéal oideachais a bhain daoine difriúla amach.

    Den chéad uair riamh i gcás aon teanga in aon áit ar domhan, déantar anailís chuimsitheach sochtheangeolaíochta agus canúineolaíochta ar raon leathan éagsúlachtaí a mhaireann san fhoghraíocht agus sa ghramadach. I gcás an oileáin is mó, Árainn (nó Inis Mór, mar a thugtar air in amanna), tá mioneolas sa suirbhé i dtaobh éagsúlacht foghraíochta, gramadaí agus stór focal, go fiú ar leibhéal na mbailte fearainn.


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