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Xbox 360 Reset Glitch Hack - Unsigned Code on current Kernels incl. X360 SLIM
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Its to do with the lack of HDMI port I read (The glitch uses the HDMI chip)
Nick
The glitch uses a call on the HANA/ANA to slow the clock of the CPU to get the timing right but the Xenon has a HANA/ANA chip so I can't see why that's the problem
Oh well, either way a Xenon version doesn't look likely since they're the most abundant version available cheaply and the guys didn't release one initially 0 -
TouchingVirus wrote: »The glitch uses a call on the HANA/ANA to slow the clock of the CPU to get the timing right but the Xenon has a HANA/ANA chip so I can't see why that's the problem Oh well, either way a Xenon version doesn't look likely since they're the most abundant version available cheaply and the guys didn't release one initially
Could be due to different pinouts? The xenons have a surface mount style ANA chip while the HDMI versions are mounted by BGA0 -
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Could be due to different pinouts? The xenons have a surface mount style ANA chip while the HDMI versions are mounted by BGA
Ah yes, I suppose I could change around my original hypothesis that it was a difference in CPU revision to a difference in HANA/ANA revision preventing the lowering of the clock in Xenon models. I would read more into it but the bottom line doesn't change, no Xenon exploits
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Just don't update the box :P:P
Nick
Indeed, once a console is jtagged there's very very little that can't be done on it with regards future games/security etc.
New hardware revision? Unlikely.
New mandatory dash? Highly likely.
Patchable? Maybe not, but with added security I'm sure MS will find a way to compensate?
Will it matter? The XBL users will have to go with it. It's buy a 2nd console time in my eyes though
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New hardware revision isn't likely? Nah, of course it is. If this can be defeated with a hardware solution they'll see what they can do in future slim revisions - it's Microsoft and they're changing up the DVD drives often enough to let you know they mean business
If they have a software solution to fix it then yes, they'll be releasing a new dash so don't update.
Get your glitchable xbox and get your virgin for Live; the homebrew train is here and isn't going anywhere :P0 -
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TouchingVirus wrote: »New hardware revision isn't likely? Nah, of course it is. If this can be defeated with a hardware solution they'll see what they can do in future slim revisions - it's Microsoft and they're changing up the DVD drives often enough to let you know they mean business If they have a software solution to fix it then yes, they'll be releasing a new dash so don't update.
Get your glitchable xbox and get your virgin for Live; the homebrew train is here and isn't going anywhere :P
I don't know, you'd really have to be privvy to the $$$ figures to make a good guess at their strategy. Would it pay to r&d different cpu architecture, implement the change at the manufacturing level, & possibly re-engineer the current dash kernel for the new architecture...as opposed to investing more in the successor which is roughly due in around a years time. Maybe it would pay off, maybe economically, it won't really affect MS & could in fact boost sales 0 -
I don't know, you'd really have to be privvy to the $$$ figures to make a good guess at their strategy. Would it pay to r&d different cpu architecture, implement the change at the manufacturing level, & possibly re-engineer the current dash kernel for the new architecture...as opposed to investing more in the successor which is roughly due in around a years time. Maybe it would pay off, maybe economically, it won't really affect MS & could in fact boost sales
You're mad about the E3 2012 successor bit
Of course it would make no sense to R&D if that's the case, but I really don't think it is. Maybe a name/architecture announcement, very early prototype in E3 2012 is what I'd put my own money on, with the Xbox reaching EOL around late 2013/early 2014. It wouldn't be a CPU architecture change either, just hardware changes necessary to alter the POST boot process with updated CBs to block glitching is all that'd stop this attack vector. 0 -
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TouchingVirus wrote: »You're mad about the E3 2012 successor bit Of course it would make no sense to R&D if that's the case, but I really don't think it is. Maybe a name/architecture announcement, very early prototype in E3 2012 is what I'd put my own money on, with the Xbox reaching EOL around late 2013/early 2014. It wouldn't be a CPU architecture change either, just hardware changes necessary to alter the POST boot process with updated CBs to block glitching is all that'd stop this attack vector.
I didn't mean to imply that in a year we'd all be looking to jtag 720's, just its announcement & a timescale for introduction. A new hardware revision is a fairly massive deal though, particularly with the slim so new still. I would imagine MS will probably point investment heavily towards a newer platform, especially with XBL unscathed by this...who knows though 0 -
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So can someone very basically sum up whats involved in this? Everything I find is far too detailed and fragmented for someone who's just a bit curious about it.
Is there extra hardware involved?
Is there soldering needed?
Yes & Yes
Basically:- Dump the nand using a nand programmer
- Install Python & variables on your pc (programmimg language/scripts)
- Use a Python command to modify your dumped nand image
- Use the nand reader to flash the newly modified nand image, back onto the 360.
- Additional hardware required, for precise execution of the glitch, programme this new hardware over lpt with your pc via Impact.
- Solder additional hardware to necessary points on the 360's board.
- Boot the console
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