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08 Ford Focus 1.8 TDCI dual mass fly wheel

  • 15-02-2015 12:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭


    Had my car in for a service two weeks ago, and was informed that the Flywheel needed to be changed (had experienced a little banging from the engine area).

    In the past two weeks this has got worse and occasionally I feel vibrating up through the clutch..

    I was driving in city traffic the other day and it was particularly bad. the noises and the vibration..

    It's not everytime I drive it but becoming more frequent and louder..
    Also occasionly it is hard to start in mornings, particularly the cold mornings..

    The mileage is quiet high (235,000kms)-I have had the car from new.

    Called the mechanic and he seems to think it needs to be done ASAP...It will cost 1000+...

    Is it worth getting it fixed (not that I can afford a new car? )


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭Bpmull


    Sounds like the dmf is on the way out alright. Make sure to get the clutch done with it. Shop around but you are probably looking at 1k alright. I don't know what you mean by is it worth doing as the car will eventually be undrivable if you dont do it your hardly considering scraping it over a flywheel the car is still worth a lot more than the cost of the work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 216 ✭✭turbostan


    Had the same thing with mine last year, went for a solid conversion kit, car never drove better. Worked out a few hundred cheaper too. Them DMFs are nearly a service item at this stage, their failure is inevitable, sooner or later.


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭eok56


    That's what I was asking, should I be trading it in or putting the money in to fix it.. I think fixing it is really the only option for me..I was just thinking ahead and is this the start of a long road of pumping money into it.. considering the high milage up on it and the ongoing high milage that I do..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭Bpmull


    eok56 wrote: »
    That's what I was asking, should I be trading it in or putting the money in to fix it.. I think fixing it is really the only option for me..I was just thinking ahead and is this the start of a long road of pumping money into it.. considering the high milage up on it and the ongoing high milage that I do..

    Still the cheapest option is going to be keep that car and replace the clutch/flywheel you should only have to do it once once you get it done right. Any garage you are going to trade it into will know the flywheel is going and just subtract 1k of the asking price plus with that mileage they won't offer you much.

    I am personally not mad about them smf conversion kits it came with a dmf for a reason the manufactures didn't just put them in for the craic. Generally an smf will make the car noisier and will cause a certain amount of constant vibration vibration so ultimately makes the car less refined. Now how bad the effects are varies Model to model some are worse than other when fitted with the conversion kit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Bpmull wrote: »
    I am personally not mad about them smf conversion kits it came with a dmf for a reason the manufactures didn't just put them in for the craic. Generally an smf will make the car noisier and will cause a certain amount of constant vibration vibration so ultimately makes the car less refined. Now how bad the effects are varies Model to model some are worse than other when fitted with the conversion kit.

    There's also a school of thought among some that replacing with a SMF is also very hard on the gearbox and can cause it to wear prematurely as well. Personally I too would go for a new DMF because by the time it too fails, the car will be long gone from the OP... :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭dooroy


    This type of discussion comes up quite regularly on various sites and it appears there is no definite answer .
    I had a 2008 Galaxy 1.8 Tdci for a few years and the DMF began 'rumbling ' at about 110K mls - so you have got great service from yours .
    I replaced mine with another complete 4 piece kit (Sachs) incl DMF as I believe in replacing like with like ; have read posts where the solid conversion caused vibration etc and others were very pleased with them. And I would get it done sooner rather than later .
    Your cold starting problems could be due to failed heater (glow) plugs . They become important when the temp drops .
    I presume you got the timing chain or 'belt in oil' changed at the recommended 125K mls (200,000KM). The belts in particular seem to be failing well before this in some of the 1.8 TDCI engines .


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭eok56


    dooroy wrote: »
    This type of discussion comes up quite regularly on various sites and it appears there is no definite answer .
    I had a 2008 Galaxy 1.8 Tdci for a few years and the DMF began 'rumbling ' at about 110K mls - so you have got great service from yours .
    I replaced mine with another complete 4 piece kit (Sachs) incl DMF as I believe in replacing like with like ; have read posts where the solid conversion caused vibration etc and others were very pleased with them. And I would get it done sooner rather than later .
    Your cold starting problems could be due to failed heater (glow) plugs . They become important when the temp drops .
    I presume you got the timing chain or 'belt in oil' changed at the recommended 125K mls (200,000KM). The belts in particular seem to be failing well before this in some of the 1.8 TDCI engines .

    Cheers, yes the belt was done over a year ago-well before 200k. Going to get the DMF done shortly. Thanks for advice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    You should be able to get the 4 part kit replaced for €900 or so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭Howjoe1


    You should be able to get the 4 part kit replaced for €900 or so.

    including labour?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Yes including labour and VAT.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭Howjoe1


    Yes including labour and VAT.

    Cheers . Having similar issue and dilemma about repair or replace for an 02 Mondeo. Car is otherwise driving fine, fuel injector pumps replaced recently, so on balance I think the repair is my best option, especially weighing up the risk on a purchase on an unknown car replacement on a budget of €1,500 max.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    If the car is good apart from the flywheel and your max budget for a replacement is €1500 then the only sensible thing to do is repair your own car.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    The clutch was gone in my cmax at 250k km (which is quite good really). Brought it to a guy near Gort who specialises in clutches. I think I paid 500-600 for the job. Certainly not a thousand. All original Sachs parts. Car now at 320k km and everything is fine so far. A grand for changing a clutch is outrageous. Small specialists could be a way to go.
    Now my car is an 06, I don't know how different that may be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Trollhättan


    The clutch was gone in my cmax at 250k km (which is quite good really). Brought it to a guy near Gort who specialises in clutches. I think I paid 500-600 for the job. Certainly not a thousand. All original Sachs parts. Car now at 320k km and everything is fine so far. A grand for changing a clutch is outrageous. Small specialists could be a way to go.
    Now my car is an 06, I don't know how different that may be.

    Sorry to dig up old thread....

    Hi Dr. Fuzz.
    Would you be able to let me know the details of that guy near Gort please? Thanks!


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