The Bridge (Bron) [ Spoilers ]

Infoanon · 15-01-2014 10:31pm

Very good so far - Saga is a wonderful character, go as far to say so far its better then series 1, hopefully it does not lose its way like series 1 did towards the end.

The Black Oil · 19-01-2014 12:29am

2.05, 2.06

Stunning shots of the bridge/winter landscape. Laura being up and about was a little far fetched perhaps, elements of the show are. Someone was bound to call Saga out on her persona and style, shows she can get hurt. Mostly, though, I liked the scenes getting to see her more human side, e.g., the awkwardness when Martin thanked her for saving his son. Well done. His personal life is certainly being tested. A pretty high wire routine with Jens. The mother in law scene was priceless, as were a few others such as with the nanny and discussion on kids. Didn't suspect she was up to something, but have heard the Munchausen by proxy thing before.

A lot of dead weight to this series so far. There is something to the breast implants, then? Only one scene seemed poorly light, green screen or something - where the dying woman was talking to the guy who told her to shove it.

seligehgit · 19-01-2014 11:42am

Another 2 hours of utterly absorbing television,nothing can compete with Broen at the moment.Found it a tad unrealistic Laura jumping out of her hospital bed to revisit the crime scene at Malmo stadium.
As usual the Saga Martin interaction stole the show.No surprise Rasmus called her out after she said she was going to report him to internal affairs in spite of his good work.Her admission to Martin in the lift that people don't realise she can be hurt was'nt a great surprise and may explain somewhat her lack of emotional openness.Rasmus's claim that she was'nt fit to be a police officer was'nt possibly the first time that she was hurt.
Her inability to engage in appropriate conversations was highlighted in her response to Martin's hopes of a reunion with Mette,the reunion been part of a statistic that is likely to be doomed to failure.Not what you want to hear,she just does'nt get it.Ditto the hilarious exchange re the size of the prostitute's penis,hilarious.Martin was petrified that she was going to ask for his measurements.
The whole scene with Jakob's mother continued this theme re her personality as she did'nt get why understandably he might'nt want to have sex with his mother literally a hair's breath away.Found her masturbation scene a tad off putting as did Jakob,she really is sex mad.
Her oddity/Asperger's like personality was highlighted by her staying in the hotel for a few nights to get some me time.
Found it hard to credit how she diagnosed the Munchausen by proxy from the cursory time she spent at Mette's house.Nothing really stood out in terms of Anna Dea,unless of course it bears some relationship to her 14 year old sister who commited suicide.Martin certainly thinks so,Pernille will turn up the file.Saga's parents possibly were the culprits leading to the girl taking her own life?
Thought Martin wanted for a brief moment to kiss Saga at the bridge and she made her excuses to head back to the car.I'm sure they won't ruin their relationship by getting involved.Martin appears to be closer to getting his family back although he's always prone to drop the ball.Continuing to give Pernille a lift home might still prove too great a temptation.
I did'nt like the concept of Martin giving Jens the case even if it is a fruitful excercise,hardly appropriate even if this convicted murder is an ex cop.Strange sort of therapy.Saga's taking down of the animal right's protestors was hardly credible?
Julian Madsen's death by IV administration of some drug seems to be part of some macabre drug experimentation.Is Caprax the responsible drug?It took him over one hour to die when compared with the others.Why does our dying Viktoria want access to this drug/company?
There are so many possible culprits and motives.Bodil's having an affair with Caroline's awful husband Alexander,what was the deceased Claudio's involvement in the eco terrorists?Why is Viktoria's brother so anxious that the book gets published?Is Laura's dad in the clear and was Marcus Sternberg aware that dead bodies were on board these smuggling ships?

The Black Oil · 19-01-2014 1:10pm

Yeah, the torture scene was pretty grim.
The dying woman is Mother of Three?

seligehgit · 19-01-2014 1:19pm

The Black Oil wrote: »

Yeah, the torture scene was pretty grim.
The dying woman is Mother of Three?

Tad too obvious,think it might be the brother?I am wondering is she dying of breast cancer or from something relating to a dodgy breast implant with industrial type silicon?

honeybear · 19-01-2014 1:46pm

I love Broen/Bron. I watched the 1st season of the US version over Christmas-Has anyone else seen it?

The Black Oil · 19-01-2014 11:06pm

The Bridge from FX with Diane Kruger and Demián Bichir? Yeah, it's pretty solid. They seemed to retain the core elements from the original version whilst still making it their own and focused on the dynamics of the border, etc. They made a better fist of it than AMC with The Killing remake, imo.

Dozen Wicked Words · 20-01-2014 4:19pm

Fantastic 2 episodes again. Anna Dea maybe gave it away when she was so protective of "his" drink when Martin's daughter wanted a drink. Why would one glass of juice be specifically for one person when she has a jug of the same stuff on the tray. Saga watched this happen, coupled with Anna Dea's high opinion of her importance to the family, it was great detective work as ever. Is that it for Laura now? Presumably whoever shot her will have another go at killing her. Copycat stuff was a bit tacked on and still not overly convinced by Martins prison visits but loved everything else. Goodness knows whats going on with the breast implants. Roll on next weekend.

Season 3 is being written, first 2 episodes already done, but suppose that might mean a decent wait for it to be filmed. Hopefully the subtitled release will coincide with the local release!

Article about Season 3 here (might contain season 2 spoilers): http://ekstrabladet.dk/flash/filmogtv/tv/article2158771.ece , but to be honest I didn't read too much of it in case there are spoilers.

Kiwi_knock · 20-01-2014 4:41pm

My face when Saga said "no one thinks they can hurt her"

:eek: My face when she starts her bedroom antics

Another great two episodes, it really does fly by. The humanising of Jens is interesting to watch, I do feel like it won't all go Martin's way. The adventures of Rasmus the bumbling detective continue, I wonder if he will finally prove himself to Saga.

It is looking too obvious that the dying woman is behind it all, however she does make sense so it will not be the worst storyline if it ends up with her as the murderer.

honeybear · 26-01-2014 12:22am

Love this show. Think there are only 2 episodes left

brian_t · 26-01-2014 12:34am

Just a heads-up.

When The Bridge comes to an end next week it will be replaced by a new 12 part Belgium series Salamander

"Salamander is a gripping, edge-of-the seat thriller - it will make a fantastic addition to our Saturday nights on BBC Four."

The Black Oil · 26-01-2014 12:42am

Having recently tuned into an episode of the dreck that is Silent Witness, tonight served as a further reminder of how well things are done by our Danish and Swedish friends. Decent dialogue and interaction, no half baked forensic psychology tripe.

2.07, 2.08

For the first portion of #7 I thought they were easing off on Saga's mannerisms. They quickly put a stop to any such thoughts with the mother in law encounter, boyfriend (oh how I loved Saga's chat with Martin in the lift) and her charging at the bereaved father asking about porn! They seem to do pretty well with their budget, although my guess is the incident at the plant with the hazmat team, etc was an exercise the show may have latched onto. Now we also know Saga's connection with Munchausen. The dying CEO can certainly handle herself in meetings alright. Not sure what to expect re what the 'graduation' will be. Thought it was going to be something to do with the bald security guy and the other bloke who checked into the hotel, er, no. :pac: Laura's dad seemed a bit off from some of the earlier episodes, but I guess he was just being protective.

I'm not sure Martin has 'won', or indeed if Jens will see out the rest of the series. The surveillance the brother Oliver is doing is just, I don't...presumably his motivation if, as implied, he's behind it all, is to get back at his sister she got the company gig?

seligehgit · 26-01-2014 11:40am

Seriously have no idea how Jakob maintains a relationship with Saga,break up coming me thinks.Those lift chats are epic,her crass insensitivity when interrogating as opposed to questioning the Dad re the porn connection just added to the litany of inappropriate social interactions.
No real surprise re the Munchausen's,she'll possibly open up re it in the finale?Oliver seems to be in love with his sister,very touchy feely!Quite an inappropriate voyeur.Appears to have been quite hurt re Victoria's cutting remarks re his failure to assume ownership of the company.Laura has identified him as the shooter,is he the mother of three??
Bald security dude was the Greens leader in Borgen,glad Martin has chosen to commit to Mette.He definitely did'nt win,rubbed Jens up the wrong way.Not real indication he's remorseful and he was always aware of the significance of his crimes.
Seriously what's the need for the massive special services units every time they do a stakeout?
Still ain't got a clue how the graduation at the EU meeting will play out.

Kiwi_knock · 27-01-2014 12:05am

The quality is still so high, will be disappointed when it ends next week. Sad to see the end of Rasmus, really thought he would have proven himself to Saga in the end. It seems like that is the last we see of Jens, it is probably for the best. There was not much left in that storyline, at least for this season. Poor Jakob, if Saga ends this season still with a boyfriend it will be a shock.

So Oliver is behind it all, it will be interesting to see the motivations behind it. It is likely he killed Claudio because he slept with his sister, but it will be interesting to see why he planned the terrorist attacks.

johnny_ultimate · 27-01-2014 9:53pm

So I blitzed through season one and the first half of season two over the last few weeks, and am now up to date. What an exceptional programme this is. Such consistently strong characterisation that resists taking the easy route at every opportunity. Saga is a challenging lead character, but the performance is a tour de force. I love the patchwork plotting, all these subplots that finally coalesce into one cohesive whole. Obviously a whole lot of it is contrived and coincidental, but the writers work it so elegantly that it's rare indeed that plot developments stand out as particularly forced or random (although still not sure what the story with that whole

wig business

in season one was :pac:)

Anyway, season two has been a bit of a whirlwind so far, incredible amount of plot and characters going on but the writers / directors / cast have managed to pull off the juggling act with grace. The Jens scenes initially felt awkward, but think they were particularly strong in the last few episodes, a very morally dubious 'victory' at best. The Oliver character is something of a creepy enigma at the moment (that masturbation scene ensured things escalated pretty quickly in establishing him as something more than a bit of an asshole), so really intrigued where they're going with that.

Dozen Wicked Words · 29-01-2014 12:52pm

Just got round to the latest episodes, brilliant as usual. The tiny things are great in this, things that will probably turn out to have zero impact in solving the crimes, like I felt sorry for Pernille, just cast aside a bit. Think I would have still given her a lift at least (although I think it's her voice does it for me!), Mette clearly not completely back into the happy families thing yet. That's not all settled yet

Mette is being written into series 3 though, so who knows

Laura was kept alive strangely after 2 attempts to kill her. She is surely the luckiest character in it, so many others from series 1 who I thought would make it didn't!

Just fyi too, the "stars" of the show are on BBC Breakfast tomorrow morning.

MacBoogerBalls · 29-01-2014 1:28pm

Any view on Stefan Lindberg from Season 1?
There was a lot put in to build his character and he had very little to do with the main plot.
Maybe he could feature in Season 3?

Dozen Wicked Words · 29-01-2014 1:44pm

MacBoogerBalls wrote: »

Any view on Stefan Lindberg from Season 1?
There was a lot put in to build his character and he had very little to do with the main plot.
Maybe he could feature in Season 3?

Well presumably he is in prison for murder?

MacBoogerBalls · 29-01-2014 1:51pm

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

Well presumably he is in prison for murder?

Manslaughter surely..

Maybe himself and Martin could be cell mates

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honeybear · 29-01-2014 4:31pm

MacBoogerBalls wrote: »

Manslaughter surely..
Maybe himself and Martin could be cell mates.

Spoiler?

Dozen Wicked Words · 30-01-2014 10:21am

Dear god, bbc breakfast give the actors about 5 minutes time and then ask the most stupid questions. Why do you swear in English? They hardly ever, if ever swear in English. Did they even bother to watch the show? Pathetic

Infoanon · 30-01-2014 3:16pm

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

So Oliver is behind it all, it will be interesting to see the motivations behind it. It is likely he killed Claudio because he slept with his sister, but it will be interesting to see why he planned the terrorist attacks.

Excellent series so far, where the fake fob was found was left open,'the evidence bag it came from had not yet been categorised', thus I am wondering if there is yet another twist yet to come.

Good news that they are making a bridge 3

Birneybau · 30-01-2014 9:31pm

A bit of fluff but interesting none the less.

Sofia Helin is very lovely. Ah, they're both nice.

The Black Oil · 31-01-2014 2:22pm

She's so different to her character. Kim (Martin) seems happy.

Infoanon · 02-02-2014 12:11am

The Black Oil wrote: »

She's so different to her character. Kim (Martin) seems happy.

Excellent series - much stronger ending than series 1 - roll on series 3

The Black Oil · 02-02-2014 12:41am

2.09, 2.10

Knew Rasmus would come back into the picture once he was transferred. Oliver's confession was pretty early on and the traditional ticking bomb scenario was never really a runner. Why have that when you can have a human one? Seemed like they walked a pretty fine line in interrogating Gertud and Viktoria without being overly dramatic, finding the confession on the PC, then having it on the police HQ computer screen. Similarly, thought Pernille's death was handled pretty well - another emotional gut punch, but the whole back half of the finale episode was. Man...

Honestly, for a second there I thought the pathologist guy was going to say he himself was infected. His lab was very non-flashy, basically a garage. Now, who was the bloke in the dark who killed Gertud for her failure? Once the Martin/Mette relationship imploded that meant Jens would haunt him again. I thought Saga was going to carry the emotional brunt of this one. There's no way she couldn't have told, though. It would have been totally against her character. I did like how talked about Saga's sister and her past (also, great lift chat, again) and her uber analytical description of her break up/situation when she told her boss about Jakob.

How the hell are they going to write Martin out of this one?

honeybear · 02-02-2014 12:50am

The Black Oil wrote: »

2.09, 2.10

Knew Rasmus would come back into the picture once he was transferred. Oliver's confession was pretty early on and the traditional ticking bomb scenario was never really a runner. Why have that when you can have a human one? Seemed like they walked a pretty fine line in interrogating Gertud and Viktoria without being overly dramatic, finding the confession on the PC, then having it on the police HQ computer screen. Similarly, thought Pernille's death was handled pretty well - another emotional gut punch, but the whole back half of the finale episode was. Man...

Honestly, for a second there I thought the pathologist guy was going to say he himself was infected. His lab was very non-flashy, basically a garage. Now, who was the bloke in the dark who killed Gertud for her failure? Once the Martin/Mette relationship imploded that meant Jens would haunt him again. I thought Saga was going to carry the emotional brunt of this one. There's no way she couldn't have told, though. It would have been totally against her character. I did like how talked about Saga's sister and her past (also, great lift chat, again) and her uber analytical description of her break up/situation when she told her boss about Jakob.

How the hell are they going to write Martin out of this one?

Love this show. Could Rasmus have a bigger role to play in series 3?

dixiefly · 02-02-2014 1:52am

Brilliant series and a cliffhanger at the end where we dont know the other person involved that killed Gertrud.

The writer gives some comments in this webchat and also says that it hasnt been decided if the person that killed Gertrud will be revealed in series 3 (which is due in 2016).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/posts/The-Bridge-Live-web-chat

patmac · 02-02-2014 1:54am

honeybear wrote: »

Love this show. Could Rasmus have a bigger role to play in series 3?

No, the creator Hans Rosenfeldt is answering questions on BBC blog at the moment we may or may not find out who the other killer is in series 3 coming up in late 2015. One of the best shows ever on TV.

dixiefly · 02-02-2014 1:57am

Comment from the writer Hans Rosenfeldt on whether the killer of Gertrud at the end will be revealed ......

We do not know who shot Gertrude. We thought that we should do something different and didn't want Martin/Saga to catch her. So we let her be a part of something "bigger". What and/r who this "bigger" is we do not know. Maybe we continue that story in series three, most likely not.

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