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09-09-2012, 11:58   #61
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It does only take 4 years college to become a GP
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10-09-2012, 23:44   #62
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It does only take 4 years college to become a GP
Which is still one year more then to qualify as Master Mariner
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It does only take 4 years college to become a GP
Think it's a year more than that. 5 years in TCD.

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Think it's a year more than that. 5 years in TCD.

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http://www.icgp.ie/go/become_a_gp

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It does only take 4 years college to become a GP
They are required to have completed a primary medical degree first, then its 4 more years to become a GP.
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Well regardless, you'll spend more time in the classroom prior to becoming a gp then an becoming a capt

Maybe I should have spent more time in a class room, given my inability to distinguish between the 'reply' and 'report' buttons on this thread. I believe I've reported a number of posts on this thread accidentally while trying to reply to them
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It takes 10 years to become a GP. 6 years for the basic medicine degree, then approximately 4 when you specialise in the area of General Medicine.

It's a specialty in its own right.
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Well regardless, you'll spend more time in the classroom prior to becoming a gp then an becoming a capt
With all the extra courses and meetings etc etc you have to attend today as captain,you are soon more on land than at sea
Atleast thats the way i have felt it the last 10 years as master mariner
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Well regardless, you'll spend more time in the classroom prior to becoming a gp then an becoming a capt

With all the extra courses and meetings etc etc you have to attend today as captain,you are soon more on land than at sea
Atleast thats the way i have felt it the last 10 years as master mariner
Yea the courses etc are a pain in the hole, but I'm sure doctors have similar

Regardless though, the point I was making us that to say it takes longer to become a doctor then a capt is akin to saying it takes longer to become a principal of a school then a brain surgeon

I'm not taking anything away from the training and experience necessary for the role, just venting my frustration at that comparison I've heard count less times
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Yea the courses etc are a pain in the hole, but I'm sure doctors have similar

Regardless though, the point I was making us that to say it takes longer to become a doctor then a capt is akin to saying it takes longer to become a principal of a school then a brain surgeon

I'm not taking anything away from the training and experience necessary for the role, just venting my frustration at that comparison I've heard count less times
i agree to a certain point,but theres many categories of doctors,and many categories of captains,and all have to spesialise in a certain field, or ships type.
Some take longer than others.
But one thing is for sure,you wont get the title captain without a lisence and a doctor without a diploma
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Quote=Mickey Dazzler;77331105]. It takes longer to train to become a Captain or Chief Engineer that it does to become a doctor.
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I hate that argument. It may take years to get to old man/chief, but most of it is spent working not studying. You could apply the same logic and say it takes longer to get to sergeant in the Garda, or supermarket manager if you go in as a shelf stacker then to become a doctor, and strictly speaking it maybe true, but only because you need to work your way up the ranks first, getting seatime along the way

To become capt, it takes three years college (not consecutive) plus the qualifying seatime for oow, c/o and masters tickets

Having not been trough medical training I can't say with certainty, but I'd be fairly confident they do slightly longer in college[/QUOTE]



It takes 3 years in college plus 36 months sea time which is 6 years in total. That figure is taking no leave into account. So taking leave into account it would take you longer to become a Master Mariner than a Doctor. I did not say to become a Captain which is different as you mentioned going through the ranks applies to any job. I was mearly stating the length of time to get to that level of qualification.

I would suggest you remove your head from your asshole before before critiquing me on line.

We could of course agree to a deul. We could meet at 06:00 on O Connell Bridge and duke it out like Officers and Gentlemen. I should warn you though that I am fully fledged ass kicking Ninja.
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It takes 3 years in college plus 36 months sea time which is 6 years in total. That figure is taking no leave into account. So taking leave into account it would take you longer to become a Master Mariner than a Doctor. I did not say to become a Captain which is different as you mentioned going through the ranks applies to any job. I was mearly stating the length of time to get to that level of qualification.

I would suggest you remove your head from your asshole before before critiquing me on line.

We could of course agree to a deul. We could meet at 06:00 on O Connell Bridge and duke it out like Officers and Gentlemen. I should warn you though that I am fully fledged ass kicking Ninja.
My point is, you could say the same about becoming a principal in a school. The majority of the time is spent working and gaining experience, and most importantly earning, not studying.

I wasn't critiquing you, just your line of argument. I'm not diminishing the time, effort or experience necessary to qualify as as master mariner, just pointing out that it's apples and oranges if you're comparing it to medicine. I'm A deck officer myself, so I do have an idea of what's involved

As for the dual, game on
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My point is, you could say the same about becoming a principal in a school. The majority of the time is spent working and gaining experience, and most importantly earning, not studying.

I wasn't critiquing you, just your line of argument. I'm not diminishing the time, effort or experience necessary to qualify as as master mariner, just pointing out that it's apples and oranges if you're comparing it to medicine. I'm A deck officer myself, so I do have an idea of what's involved

As for the dual, game on
You could not say the same about becoming a principle as that takes time to move up through the ranks. However to study to get a teaching qualification takes 3-4 years. To become a Doctor takes around 6-7 years and to become a Master Mariner takes 7-8 years (Minimum). I am talking about length of time to gain a qualification not length of time to progress in ones chosen career.

Did you sniff too much paint as a Cadet? This might be the cause of your inability to grasp this concept.

A duel it so.

Id imagine our duel to look something like the following.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P16J0ejFToY
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My point is, you could say the same about becoming a principal in a school. The majority of the time is spent working and gaining experience, and most importantly earning, not studying.

I wasn't critiquing you, just your line of argument. I'm not diminishing the time, effort or experience necessary to qualify as as master mariner, just pointing out that it's apples and oranges if you're comparing it to medicine. I'm A deck officer myself, so I do have an idea of what's involved

As for the dual, game on
You could not say the same about becoming a principle as that takes time to move up through the ranks. However to study to get a teaching qualification takes 3-4 years. To become a Doctor takes around 6-7 years and to become a Master Mariner takes 7-8 years (Minimum). I am talking about length of time to gain a qualification not length of time to progress in ones chosen career.

Did you sniff too much paint as a Cadet? This might be the cause of your inability to grasp this concept.

A duel it so.

Id imagine our duel to look something like the following.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P16J0ejFToY
I grasp the concept alright, I just think its a flawed comparison.

I can't watch the video as I'm at sea at the moment. I've about 6 weeks left and the Internet is that slow that I'd doubt the video will load load in that time
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I grasp the concept alright, I just think its a flawed comparison.

I can't watch the video as I'm at sea at the moment. I've about 6 weeks left and the Internet is that slow that I'd doubt the video will load load in that time
Ha Ha I was only having you on.....

Well you can look forward to watching that video when you get home........ and stay out of the paint locker.....
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