Iron Man 3

syklops · 25-04-2013 12:05pm

Going to see it tonight.

Have a question, 3d or not 3d?
I've never seen a movie in 3d, owing to the fact I lived abroad until recently, and all the 3d ones wered dubbed, and all the 2d movies were in English with subtitles so we went to the one with subtitles.

lertsnim · 25-04-2013 12:23pm

A Neurotic wrote: »

FFS. Telling someone there's a twist ruins the concept of a twist. Spoiler.

Agreed!!

DinoRex · 25-04-2013 12:27pm

I'd say see it in 2D... I'm not a fan of 3D but this film definitely didn't seem to do much to make the 3D pop, just made everything needlessly dark.

As for the film itself, I found it very patchy. What it does I guess it does well, but I sort of hate what it does.

krudler · 25-04-2013 1:01pm

syklops wrote: »

Going to see it tonight.

Have a question, 3d or not 3d?
I've never seen a movie in 3d, owing to the fact I lived abroad until recently, and all the 3d ones wered dubbed, and all the 2d movies were in English with subtitles so we went to the one with subtitles.

Always 2D unless its something specfically shot for the format imo

jonnyfingers · 25-04-2013 1:27pm

Seeing it in 2D at 5 today. Looking forward to it.

brianregan09 · 25-04-2013 2:48pm

Ok went to see it last night and thought it was a great movie but a few bad points too

1st off what the in hell did they do with the Mandarin , He was fantastic
looked one of the best villains in the MCU so far ,even better than Loki in my
opinion and then they completely make a joke of him by showing to be some
actor, now in the story of the movie it made total sense don't get me wrong, But
its the Mandarin , He's Iron Mans Joker , His main enemy in the books, while
everybody in the cinema was pissing themselves at Trevor, I was sitting there
mouth open and couldn't believe what i was seeing i kept expecting the real
mandarin to come in and knock out Tony or whatever

The story as it turned out, it probaly didn't even need him in the movie at
all, I felt they bowed to fan pressure to add him in, Reason i say that is
Killian and Savin were superb in the movie and just like in the comics there was
no need of the Mandarin in the Extremis story which was done fantasticlly and i
couldn't help but smile when tony was fighting the extremis soldiers, Especially
Killian himself , who breathed fire at one point (a nod to the extremis book)
which was handled brilliantly too

Rhodey again I don't feel he's needed in this movie at all, especially so
fastly losing the War Machine monicker and becoming Iron Patriot (a villain in
the comics

) , Also the movie itself was over comedic in places really trying
to be a comedy in places , don't get me wrong it was funny especially Tony
taking the piss out of the kid was hilarious, It was just odd in film thats
supposed to be serious if ya get me

Overall i loved it but i still felt it could have been so much better too

Three Seasons · 25-04-2013 3:03pm

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Iron Man 3 is the most mature and grown up of all of Marvel Studios movies. The trailers are totally misleading and do not tell the true nature of the movie. Easily the best of the trilogy. Cannot wait to see it again at the weekend.

Would you rate the Iron Man trilogy better than the dark knight trilogy?

Bullseye1 · 25-04-2013 3:20pm

As a trilogy probably not. I think IM trilogy is let down by part 2. But then I did prefer part 1 & 3 more than BB and TDK. I'd give it slightly to Batman. But I do think RDJ is a far better Tony Stark than Christian Bales Bruce Wayne.

Mitch Connor · 25-04-2013 3:25pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

Ok went to see it last night and thought it was a great movie but a few bad points too

1st off what the in hell did they do with the Mandarin , He was fantastic
looked one of the best villains in the MCU so far ,even better than Loki in my
opinion and then they completely make a joke of him by showing to be some
actor, now in the story of the movie it made total sense don't get me wrong, But
its the Mandarin , He's Iron Mans Joker , His main enemy in the books, while
everybody in the cinema was pissing themselves at Trevor, I was sitting there
mouth open and couldn't believe what i was seeing i kept expecting the real
mandarin to come in and knock out Tony or whatever

The story as it turned out, it probaly didn't even need him in the movie at
all, I felt they bowed to fan pressure to add him in, Reason i say that is
Killian and Savin were superb in the movie and just like in the comics there was
no need of the Mandarin in the Extremis story which was done fantasticlly and i
couldn't help but smile when tony was fighting the extremis soldiers, Especially
Killian himself , who breathed fire at one point (a nod to the extremis book)
which was handled brilliantly too

Rhodey again I don't feel he's needed in this movie at all, especially so
fastly losing the War Machine monicker and becoming Iron Patriot (a villain in
the comics ) , Also the movie itself was over comedic in places really trying
to be a comedy in places , don't get me wrong it was funny especially Tony
taking the piss out of the kid was hilarious, It was just odd in film thats
supposed to be serious if ya get me

Overall i loved it but i still felt it could have been so much better too

Agree with all of this - particularly the

Mandarin issues - everyone was laughing at his goofiness, I was just open mouthed that they would ruin him like that. I just don't get why they would rule out using such a major character in the future by destroying him now when there was absolutely no need to do so.

Liam O · 25-04-2013 6:44pm

Really enjoyed it thought it was great. However as people have said,

the Madarin reveal was terrible. Felt like something right out of a Scary Movie film. It was like Ben Kingsley still thought he was in the Dictator. Really broke up the serious vibe of the preceding scenes

Before that moment it had the perfect blend of serious and comedy I thought and was building up well but it lost a lot of momentum in that scene. It does regain it quite quickly after and is a fair bit darker than the other Iron Man films so I can kind of excuse 1 bad scene but its so bad that it has the potential to bring down the film a lot when revising it.

Still would rate it quite highly though at times they did seem to be doing too much. Pearce was very good, as was the lad out of the Departed and Pacific. Best Iron Man I'd say but then again I wasn't a huge fan of the other 2.

jonnyfingers · 25-04-2013 7:24pm

jonnyfingers wrote: »

Seeing it in 2D at 5 today. Looking forward to it.

Jesus I thought it was a terrible movie. Really disappointed. Script is all over the place, the action leaves a lot to be desired and the humour just feels forced and out of place.

Edit: Ok I've calmed down a bit and I'm willing to upgrade it from terrible to mediocre. I suppose I can sum up my feelings by saying this was a missed opportunity. I loved Iron Man, I thought Iron Man 2 was good but lost its way a bit. I thought The Avengers was the best outing of Iron Man to date so I thought they'd build on that and really pull it out of the bag for this one. Instead I felt they didn't really know where to take the story and have ended up with a bit of a mess.

There are some good scenes, Downey Jnr continues to be great as Tony Stark but as a whole I can't call it a good film sadly.

Strangely it seems to be getting good reviews from others so maybe I've missed something. But I haven't been this disappointed coming out of a summer blockbuster since X-Men 3.

budgemook · 25-04-2013 8:19pm

I wouldn't bother sticking around for the bit after the credits either.

What makes a good superhero movie is a good bad guy.

This movie sucked balls.

jonnyfingers · 25-04-2013 8:46pm

budgemook wrote: »

I wouldn't bother sticking around for the bit after the credits either.

What makes a good superhero movie is a good bad guy.

This movie sucked balls.

So I'm not going mad. Thank you!

Liam O · 25-04-2013 8:58pm

budgemook wrote: »

I wouldn't bother sticking around for the bit after the credits either.

What makes a good superhero movie is a good bad guy.

This movie sucked balls.

There was a good bad guy though,

Pierce was very good imo, quickly brought the action back on track after the poor mandarin reveal

.

The bit after the credits was very good but not something that adds anything really.

budgemook · 25-04-2013 10:45pm

Liam O wrote: »

There was a good bad guy though,
Pierce was very good imo, quickly brought the action back on track after the poor mandarin reveal
.

The bit after the credits was very good but not something that adds anything really.

He was terrible imo.

and his powers and all his mates extra crap.

Just didn't like it.

Oafley Jones · 25-04-2013 11:12pm

I remember being worried when I found out that Extremis was going to be featured; it was too fantastical I argued, just too silly a tech. Apparently Black must have felt comic extremis was too mundane.

Overall, I felt it was just slightly better than 2. A few of Black's quip elevating past its predecessor.

horgan_p · 25-04-2013 11:28pm

I thought it ws veering towards genie in the bottle at one point with the

PTSD

overall I was not impressed , pissed away one of the best bad guys and storylines (extremis) in the comics on a half hearted effort.
so half hearted that they didnt fully close off the

extremis

storyline.

when they took out the shrapnel how do we know extremis didnt go in ?

dont forget

Pepper still has extremis as far as we know

Oh and way to skip over the mandarin's

ten rings of power

, even though they were hinted at as subtly as a brick to the head

Burkatron · 26-04-2013 12:35am

Absolute ****e!!! It's worse then #2 & that was bad! They ruined a great story with all the crap in between & what they did to the

Mandarin

is criminal! There's about 30 minutes of decent content & 15 of that is at the start of the movie, very reminiscent of X-Men the last stand!

:(

Mickeroo · 26-04-2013 12:38am

Burkatron wrote: »

Absolute ****e!!! It's worse then #2 & that was bad! They ruined a great story with all the crap in between & what they did to the
Mandarin
is criminal! There's about 30 minutes of decent content & 15 of that is at the start of the movie, very reminiscent of X-Men the last stand! :(

Oh jesus

I've re-watched all the phase one movies this week in preperation for this at the weekend, have they really dropped the ball this badly?

johnny_ultimate · 26-04-2013 12:46am

A production line movie if ever there was one - devoid of the bravery to follow through on some potentially interesting ideas. Throws a whole lot of stuff at the screen so you can't have a chance to think about it - frankly, it felt around five hours long as a result. There's no sense of pace, time or geography - just an endless series of increasingly interchangeable, repetitive sequences, punctuated with an action scene every so often. Too many subplots, too few rewards. Honestly, the film's timeline felt like everything took place over several weeks rather than a couple of days. A film that could have trimmed out a good thirty minutes without hassle - and remarkable to think there's even more filler for the Chinese market we don't get to see!

There are times when Shane Black tries to get a say in - a genuinely witty line of dialogue here, a sly commentary on American imperialism there. I also like the fact that Stark spends so much time as Stark - if the material was more interesting, this would have been one of the strongest character pieces Marvel have yet made (unfortunately, it probably still is). But it ultimately amounts to little - another director shackled by the restrictions of cinema's most risk averse studio. Everytime it threatens to go somewhere intriguing, it hastily shifts to pantomime mode. Even a few of the things it does sort of right were handled much more interestingly in The Dark Knight Rises.

Poor Rebecca Hall - gets the short end of the stick here, although a real shame Kingsley is straddled with such a farcical character too. The idea of a puppet Mandarin was smart, the execution too silly. Also feels wasteful to have the characters spend a good half of the film figuring out something revealed in no uncertain terms in the prologue.

Downey Jr is confident as ever and there's a few stylish moments (the well handled Mandarin videos show what happens with a bit of directorial flair). But this is just an assault - a noisy narrative of conveniences, and at times plays like one of James Bond's cheesiest misadventures given the idiocy of the villains.

Iron Man 3 is bigger and louder, but it's by no means better. A well-oiled machine - functional in its own unambitious way yet lacking verve. A few moments of wit and a badass moment or two do not a good film make - they merely break up a whole load of tedium.

And don't wait around through the credits, it's pointless.

Oscorp · 26-04-2013 1:25am

Utter tripe. Even worse that number two. Such a pity, considering how good the first one was.

humanji · 26-04-2013 9:14am

I enjoyed it. Never read the comics, so knew little about Extremis or Mandarin, so that's probably why I'm don't have the same level as disgust people have for them being altered so much. The Marvel films are being churned out now, so anyone expecting anything more than a film made to a deadline is bound to be disappointed.

I also think it's fairly pointless to compare this to the Dark Knight trilogy. Dark Knight had a character arc, while the Iron Man films are fairly independent of each other and only really make references to the other films (IM3 makes more references to The Avengers that anything else).

coolisin · 26-04-2013 10:04am

I'll be honest I came in here expecting a bit of praise for the movie!

Really enjoyed it, I thought it was brave using the virus story, and i thought it was a good job, I completely forgot technically this is a sequel to the avengers until I was watching and the reference New York and aliens.

I felt the comical elements were weighed up nicely with the darker elements.
And it is darker.

I'm sorry but I really enjoyed it, I don't think it disappointed thumbs up from me!!

syklops · 26-04-2013 10:21am

Went to see it last night. Having been advised to see it in 2d went to see it in 3d because she wanted to see it in 3d(She'd never seen one in 3d). The crappy 3d glasses were really uncomfortable. They kept slipping down. The advice here was right, don't go and see it in 3d. The best 3d bit was the 3d logo at the start, and the bit where

the Air Force one staff are falling through the air made me feel funny

Don't bother for waiting til the end, you will just feel like a prat. The guy in front of me said to the steward in a disappointed voice"That was it?" and the guy replied sounding just as disappointed, "Yep, that was it".

I'm just going to spoiler the rest of it. Although really, if you don't want to see spoilers, you shouldn't still be in this thread

I went in with a very open mind, and resigned to wait until I had slept on it until I posted here, but overall I was disappointed. I've not read much Iron Man comics, though I intend to start so I wasn't upset about the Mandarin reveal. Although the hiring an actor to pretend to be a terrorist has pretty much already been done in Sherlock, only there it was executed more sleekly.

I thought the new suit was terrible and seemed to fall apart at the drop of a hat. The other suits also seemed very weak, and fell apart or got damaged very quickly and easily.

We didn't properly get to see the new specialist suits in action. Having been looking forward to the "hulk buster" suit, and seeing the mk42 not up to the task of fighting Aldrich, I assumed Tony would summon the hulkbuster and go to town on him, but he didn't so I felt that was a wasted opportunity.

If Tony no longer has the arc reactor, and he has destroyed all his suits, where does that leave us for Avengers 2?

And speaking about destroying the suits, what a cop out. He is on the docks with pepper, he doesn't know that they are out of the woods yet, he doesn't know that all of Aldrich's henchmen have been taken care of, he does know they are practically indestructible, and he has no obvious way of getting to safety, and yet he destroys them all one by one?

I have to say it felt very long. I was amazed when I looked at my watch and it was only two hours long. It felt more like three.

What happened to AC/DC? When he told Jarvis to drop the needle, I was fully expecting some power track from AC/DC to intro the new suit, instead we got some cheesy Christmas song.

I didn't get the bit with him going to Tennessee. Why did he run out of power so quickly? Considering the first suit he had could fly around the world in one go, why did this one lose power, during a flight from Malibu to Tennessee?

I'll probably go and see it again, but from first glance I am disappointed.

Goldstein · 26-04-2013 10:35am

Not going to bother with this, enough trustworthy reports to know it's not for me. Hadn't exactly high hopes for this latest copy+paste Marvel comic book movie but I at least expected it to be unanimously declared far superior than IM2 which was an abysmal movie by any standards.

syklops · 26-04-2013 10:50am

Goldstein wrote: »

Not going to bother with this, enough trustworthy reports to know it's not for me. Hadn't exactly high hopes for this latest copy+paste Marvel comic book movie but I at least expected it to be unanimously declared far superior than IM2 which was an abysmal movie by any standards.

Its better than 2. Its not better than the Avengers.

doubledown · 26-04-2013 10:51am

I am absolutely floored by the amount of negative reactions in this thread. I loved it and thought it was unquestionably the strongest of the Iron Man films, if not the best Marvel film to date. Did we all see the same movie???

It managed to be both funny and dark. Great dialogue. Great villains. Great action. A wonderful

twist

too. I had no prior knowledge or attachment to the source material so maybe that's why it didn't bother me that much. Also, I had avoided all trailers and TV spots so that helped.

I wasn't a huge fan of the first two to be honest. (In fact, my favourite Iron Man film to date was The Avengers). I felt they were average at best but were elevated by Downey Jr.'s performance. And in this film he NAILS it. And I felt that Shane Black brought a fresh energy to proceedings and I would love if he got a shot at making another one. There were about 10 laugh-out-loud moments and about 5 moments of pure geek heaven.

I guess everyone has different tastes and opinions but don't write this movie off just based on this thread. Check it out for yourself. I'm seeing it again tonight. If this is how Phase 2 is shaping up then bring it on.

ShagNastii · 26-04-2013 11:10am

Thought it was great. I think it's a pity they didn't proper christmas it up. Make it one that could be rolled out over the festive period.

RDJ as Tony Stark has be be one of the most perfect castings ever.

ShagNastii · 26-04-2013 11:11am

Thought it was great. I think it's a pity they didn't proper christmas it up. Make it one that could be rolled out over the festive period.

RDJ as Tony Stark has be be one of the most perfect castings ever.

syklops · 26-04-2013 11:37am

According to this article , Joss Whedon's reaction to Iron Man 3 was:

Now what am I supposed to do now? What am I going to do in Avengers 2?

The article explains this as:

That’s Whedon’s self-deprecating humor, putting more pressure on himself to live up to not only Iron Man 3 (and the standalone Thor and Captain America sequels) but also the explosive finale of his own record-breaking Avengers, which raised the bar on the modern superhero blockbuster and probably made things difficult on Black and his crew … being the first Marvel movie to hit theaters after Whedon dropped the proverbial mic with his massive hit.

Now that Iron Man has seemingly

Hung up his Iron Mask for good,

, I think that explains Joss Whedons exclamation better.

Iron Man 3

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