anyone here intrested in the coursing?

Benny Cake wrote: »

Ya, heard this pair on the radio recently. Neither of them have ever been to a coursing meeting but have seen "pictures" so are clearly well informed! Both representing Dublin which as we know is a real hotbed for coursing support...

I wouldn't worry though. No way the government will ban something thats generating upwards of 20 million in the state each year...

I live in Dublin and yes there are plenty of dogs here including the best run meeting in the country at Ballbriggan.Let me tell you something you are not aware off.The current president M D Higgins was vice president of anti blood sports,the liar Kenny is totally against coursing as he chaired anti blood sport rallys in the past,Eamonn Gilmore has recently called for a ban on coursing,Claire Daly is totally against coursing as are the following Joe Costello,Joan Collins,Joe Grealish and plenty more.the people mentioned are active in their opposition.Wheather you like it or not Dublin runs the show.So start worrying as the above are hell bent on banning coursing .The argument about 20m is rubbish as their answer is drag.

sting60 wrote: »

I live in Dublin and yes there are plenty of dogs here including the best run meeting in the country at Ballbriggan.Let me tell you something you are not aware off.The current president M D Higgins was vice president of anti blood sports,the liar Kenny is totally against coursing as he chaired anti blood sport rallys in the past,Eamonn Gilmore has recently called for a ban on coursing,Claire Daly is totally against coursing as are the following Joe Costello,Joan Collins,Joe Grealish and plenty more.the people mentioned are active in their opposition.Wheather you like it or not Dublin runs the show.So start worrying as the above are hell bent on banning coursing .The argument about 20m is rubbish as their answer is drag.

If you do say so yourself! Take your point that the sport needs to consatntly be on its guard though!

@ sting60 Fair play! That took her down off her whole high moral ground platform

sting60 wrote: »

No would not take one on back breeding.The great grandam Three Of Tender was very poor the dam Daltons Heresay has had one bitch who threw one trial stake winner.Put into the mix an unproven sire of bitches then you would want to get it cheap.Because she could run up the field means nothing ,anyone can buy Quality And Gold pups aswell as her sister Lucan Diva .Plenty of Oaks winners have thrown nothing.

Daltons Heresay has in fact two daughters that threw a trial stake winner, in both cases from their first and only litter - one of them was a Derby quarter-finalist, the other from what i can recall didn't run in Powerstown due to injury

regarding some of her stock being in Pakistan, Clerihan Nell was herself a Trial Stake winner and sold for breeding, that is how she ended up in Pakistan

Daltons herself was a trial stake runner-up and all-age winner and she has thrown at least one Trial Stake winner on each of her four litters to date with one of her off-spring this weekend gone making his third appearance at the Irish Cup (albeit this time only as a reserve)

she has now thrown one of the fastest greyhounds up Powerstown in the shape of Fives Treasure and as stated her daughters have bred from limited oppurtunity - you're obviously entitled to your opinion but i certainly wouldn't expect pups out of Fives Treasure to be cheap

Benny Cake wrote: »

How many Dublin based dogs ran in Clonmel?

Home of coursing is West Limerick/North Kerry...

No argument I love you big time.I had a bitch pup ran in Galbally last year with the worst shoulder in history Yadontbewell [82 lbs] look at her clock in the first round[ Shoulder gone in next round].We in Dublin are fighting against everything.She is super bred,hurt her sholder at ten months.4/7 TO Win Castletowngoeghan,2/5 TO WIN Galbally .Brian Jones told me to retire her before she ever ran.

2old4dacold wrote: »

Windgap Heresay Trial Stake winner Clonmel & Kilsheelan and dam of Adios Anna Trial Stake winner Waterford & District. As far as i can recall Adios Anna didn't run again

Honeycomb Tanya never ran herself, dam of Derby quarter finalist Stephens Ray

A blue bitch with new breeding could well be in,because all the old champion lines are dead.Buy one and I hope you win the Derby/Oakes.

Benny Cake wrote: »

How many Dublin based dogs ran in Clonmel?

Home of coursing is West Limerick/North Kerry...

And where is Clonmel - West Limerick or North Kerry - Tipperary is a strong coursing county too.

Chance here to show your support for coursing in Ireland...

http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-should-hare-coursing-be-banned-385031-Mar2012/?voted=1

rosskeen wrote: »

I see the ICC have announced today that the 2013 National Meeting has been moved to a weekend.

Next year's meeting will be on Saturday 2nd, Sunday 3rd and Monday 4th of February with prizemoney in excess of €180,000. Good move or bad move?

As far as I'm concerned if it allows more people to come to Powerstown to see the coursing then it's certainly a good thing. I know there are a lot of people who would love to go but they can't afford to take three days off work.

I'm just hoping I'll have something good enough to take with me!

Great move as I have been requesting this for years.It makes it far more easy for people to travel .It will stop the hotels in the area ripping people off with their price hikes for those few days/nights.Revenue will increase twofold as a result.The vast majority of clubs the length and breath of the country hold their meetings at weekends for the same reasons the ICC are now doing,its a nobrainer.

I must dig out my programme from February year to try and work out if the €180,000 is an increase in prizemoney. The prize money for the Derby and Oaks could certainly do with a boost especially compared to the Irish Cup.

The other thing with the new dates and the expected increased attendance is that it should boost the ICCs coffers. It could definitely be re-invested (or maybe I'm just getting carried away)

But if you get 1000 more people on the Saturday and Sunday the increase from gate receipts alone would be

1000x €20= €20,000 Saturday
1000x €30= €30,000 Sunday

I could think of any number of places where the ICC could spend that kind of money

rosskeen wrote: »

I must dig out my programme from February year to try and work out if the €180,000 is an increase in prizemoney. The prize money for the Derby and Oaks could certainly do with a boost especially compared to the Irish Cup.

The other thing with the new dates and the expected increased attendance is that it should boost the ICCs coffers. It could definitely be re-invested (or maybe I'm just getting carried away)

But if you get 1000 more people on the Saturday and Sunday the increase from gate receipts alone would be

1000x €20= €20,000 Saturday
1000x €30= €30,000 Sunday

I could think of any number of places where the ICC could spend that kind of money

Im trying dig out a letter I sent to the late Gerry Desmond about ten years ago.I remember some points and I think are quite relevent in that people have more money in their pockets on a friday than on a Monday and the knockon effect is more spending.Children are not at school and hopefully we can get younger people into the sport. There will be opposition to this and they are the people with vested interests,self centered individuals.

there is a massive crowd for the last day as it is, while the first day is always the slackest . . . . going Friday-Sunday would have seen an increase in people staying away for the first day imho, you only have to look at the Friday in Limerick

Saturday-Monday a good move, certainly worth a try

Yeah not long to go now. Might be another 3 or 4 weeks before we start getting the dogs ready yet. No point peaking in September or October!

Just an aside on something that was mentioned earlier in the thread about which dog will take over from Bexhill Eoin. From my own records (taken from the Sporting Press so its not complete, but a useful guide) the Sires with the most matings this year to date are

Kingsmill Dynamo- 68
Bexhill Eoin- 50
Johnny Casanova- 29
Mafi Magic- 23
March Is On- 20
Adios Alonso- 19
Wallace Green- 16

Now the SP usually print a group of the one sire together so yesterday's had 40 odd Kingsmill Dynamo and I'd expect Adios Alonso and Mafi Magic to increase a bit. But with 376 odd matings registered it should give a good idea of the way the breeding scene is shaping up.

I've counted 43 sires to date which shows there's plenty of choice (I haven't included any Ballymac Meave matings). A few with a handful I'd be interested in getting a look at include Blueview Sam, Prevelence, High and Mighty and Kyle Basil.

Amazing Matthews has the best stud dogs.I have asked a number of times to get Newry Hill blood tested to no avail.Time will tell.

sting60 wrote: »

Amazing Matthews has the best stud dogs.I have asked a number of times to get Newry Hill blood tested to no avail.Time will tell.

What would you hope to learn from a blood test?