Drugs in Dublin

OsamaBinLaden · 12-01-2006 1:22pm

coke turns nice people into arrogant assholes.
just thought i'd add that.
carry on.

amazingemmet · 12-01-2006 1:31pm

OsamaBinLaden wrote:

listen, drugs are addictive and they alter your perceptions. that's why they are illegal. do you really want to meet someone on the street who is out of their head on coke/heroin/whatever every day of the week? you can legalise drugs, but you can't stop people from walking the streets while out of their heads. it's for your own safety that these things are illegal. we have enough problems with drunk people on the streets. do we really need to add heroin users to that list. there is also no breathalyser currently available to tell you if someone is driving while under the influence of drugs. cop the **** on, get your head out of your arse and s look at drugs in a sensible way.

Not every person is gonna be doing drugs 24/7 and the people that are doing them 24/7 are would be doing them legal or illegal. Heroine user are alot easier to deal with then angry drunks. While there is no breathalyser currently in use there is swab test where you can swab peoples sweat or saliva and it indicates if the person has been using various substances in the recent time period. Personally i think you should get your head out of your arse and get properly educated about drugs:v:

Siogfinsceal · 12-01-2006 1:55pm

ah theres loads of coke and pills in dublin. To be honest though if I was a club owner I wouldnt be too bother about people doing coke in my club- its done everywhere. If it sa dance club of course people are going to be doing pils its the dance culture though to be honest people who are on pills wreck my head far more than peopl who are on coke

Dustaz · 12-01-2006 2:36pm

Christ, its spelt HEROIN. It's like copper faced jacks - There is no E.

Some of the rubbish in this thread is disconcerting to say the least. The poster who reckons that 80% of young north dublin males do E needs to take a lesson or two in statistics i think and not base his judgements on 6 months spent in Spirit and Heaven.

Of course drugs feel good, otherwise noone would take them. Of course they are dangerous, hence the illegality (ok, with the exception of cannabis.)

12-01-2006 3:06pm

Dustaz wrote:

Christ, its spelt HEROIN. It's like copper faced jacks - There is no E.

Some of the rubbish in this thread is disconcerting to say the least. The poster who reckons that 80% of young north dublin males do E needs to take a lesson or two in statistics i think and not base his judgements on 6 months spent in Spirit and Heaven.

Of course drugs feel good, otherwise noone would take them. Of course they are dangerous, hence the illegality (ok, with the exception of cannabis.)

Great quote about copperface jacks.its owned by two ex guards.isnt it?

Wertz · 12-01-2006 6:58pm

Da Gopher wrote:

People drink pretty much the same when taking coke as not in my view (unlike e, where the alcohol sales will suffer if the whole crowd is on it).

The beautiful irony of that is that the interaction between cocaine and alcohol is much much more likely to kill or seriously harm a user than mixing your pills with a skinful of booze, but since we've all been made so aware by the sensationalist media that you should never mix E and drink, we associate that as being the more dangerous of the two, when the opposite is more the case...

Oh and totally agree on the speed thing- worst.comedown.ever.

jonny68 · 12-01-2006 7:25pm

BigArnie wrote:

The drugs in Dublin are crap anyway. I don't know why anyone bothers.

True trying to score some decent coke is impossible almost

Fraggle Rocks · 12-01-2006 7:45pm

steveland? wrote:

That's morphine though isn't it?

There's a big difference between getting an injection of morphine to help ease pain, during or after an operation or when in extreme pain, and heroin you go and buy off some dodgy guy down a lane in the city centre...

No, heroin is used medicinally as a painkiller.Its proper name is diamorphine.

slipss · 12-01-2006 8:20pm

just thought I'd add for the people that say they don't see the attraction of taking coke and that its really over rated.

The attraction is that you can be out of it on coke but you still have a clear head, your motor functions are far less affected than with most other drugs, you can still interact with people exactly as coherently as when your totally sober (sometimes better), you are still (for the most part) able to make good decisions (although you can become paranoid or aggresive, with the majority of people this only is an issue with heavy or habitual use) you suffer virtually no hangover, and for a lot of people it makes them feel really good/euphoric moreso at higher doses.

also a lot of people that do coke and think its sh1t usually only do a few small lines of poor quality stuff, and don't get the full effect.

That being said it's true, as with any drug, that some people just won't like it.

Tha Gopher · 13-01-2006 10:37am

OsamaBinLaden wrote:

yeah, those kids who couldn't get jobs in the factories are real e heads.

why would you say that?
is it because people in north Dublin are stereotyped as being serial drug users?

on topic: cocaine is widespread here in Leixlip. go to any p[ub on any night of the week and people are doing it. someone mentioned something about having an outdoor area for coke users. i've seen people doing coke while i was out having a smoke and was offered some by those taking it. it's everywhere.

.

The reason I said jobless, or working a crap job, is because they spend 8 quid getting high on yokes rather than 50-150 plus on coke.

And no Im not stereotyping. Im from North Dublin. Im basing it on the people I know in Dublin in general. You have yourself said that drugs are everywhere in Leixlip. If coke is everywhere, then logically alot of people must be using it.

Dustaz, i didnt say 80% of males do pills or coke regularly. Id say however that this amount have done it a few times. Thats my life experience. Quit disecting my posts for petty points, its childish

Slipps- ive done bad and good. The good was.....good, but not a high thats worth the money it costs. And no hangover? You obviously havent experienced the sheer hilarity of post binge paranoia.

My mate was convinced after an all nighter that the Garda helicopter chased him to his house like in Goodfellas

rubadub · 13-01-2006 10:57am

Dustaz wrote:

Christ, its spelt HEROIN. It's like copper faced jacks - There is no E.

I was waiting for somebody to point that out, didn't think it would be in such a harsh way. You are wrong, get your facts right before berating people, you end up looking like an ignorant asshole. Heroine is a perfectly acceptable spelling, many medical journals/texts would insist on spelling it that way. "ine" is a suffix on many compounds, it is acceptable to drop the e.

[Deleted User] · 13-01-2006 11:20am

OsamaBinLaden wrote:

coke turns nice people into arrogant assholes.
just thought i'd add that.
carry on.

Yeah I love the way people think they are really interesting and think whatever **** is spewing from their mouth is gospel. And they won't ****ing shut up either.

I really hate talking to people on coke.

joejoem · 13-01-2006 11:22am

Drugs are just bad m'kay?

[Deleted User] · 13-01-2006 11:26am

slipss wrote:

The attraction is that you can be out of it on coke but you still have a clear head, your motor functions are far less affected than with most other drugs, you can still interact with people exactly as coherently as when your totally sober (sometimes better), you are still (for the most part) able to make good decisions (although you can become paranoid or aggresive, with the majority of people this only is an issue with heavy or habitual use) you suffer virtually no hangover, and for a lot of people it makes them feel really good/euphoric moreso at higher doses.

I'm sorry but everything you have said there is bollocks frankly.

No hangover? pulllllesse...

You could add "You think that you can.." to each of your points there and make them true.

Make good decisions on coke??
hahahahahahaha you must be joking

Lux23 · 13-01-2006 11:38am

Drugs are just as prevalent in the towns like Drogheda and Navan as in Dublin. I have experimented with drugs in the past but I just don't like the idea of lining the pockets of drug pushers so I avoid them. . I have never see anyone who was taking XTC or smoking weed behave in a agressive manner. But Cocaine is a different story altogether and I have seen a couple of decent people turn in to complete C**ts while using it. I know of one girl who had an amazing life, great job in a record company and a lovely boyfriend. But she just got too much into cocaine and couldn't cope with the real world anymore. She is 34, a recovering addict but lives with her parents and seems to have no interest in socialising or returning to work. But then there are 1000's of people who will take coke in this city tonight who will never end up like this. But they are still part of the problem.

Time Magazine · 13-01-2006 11:39am

Dustaz wrote:

Of course they are dangerous, hence the illegality (ok, with the exception of cannabis.)

http://212.58.226.40/1/hi/health/4305783.stm

Are you sure? Would you legalise a chocolate bar that reports from universities said doubled the chance of becoming mentally ill?

Dustaz · 13-01-2006 12:30pm

http://www.themeparkinsider.com/news/response.cfm?ID=1296

Ban this evil mode of transport NOW!

Yes, i would legalise canabis, search back through the 1,000,000 threads on the subject over the years to see why and save me rubbishing your limited point.

You are wrong, get your facts right before berating people, you end up looking like an ignorant asshole. Heroine is a perfectly acceptable spelling, many medical journals/texts would insist on spelling it that way. "ine" is a suffix on many compounds, it is acceptable to drop the e.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/heroine
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/heroin
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/heroine?view=uk
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=heroine

Its quite possibly that in medical and chemical books and papers there is an added e. However, since I and the vast majority of the population lack a Phd in medicine, we stick with the STANDARDISED spelling so that other people dont think were talking about a gutsy lady winning against all the odds. Generally, I leave it to the ignorant assholes to use the non-standard spellings.

Dustaz, i didnt say 80% of males do pills or coke regularly. Id say however that this amount have done it a few times. Thats my life experience. Quit disecting my posts for petty points, its childish

I still think you need a lesson in statistics. Did you come up with this figure after a straw poll of people on the dancefloor in Spirit? People that you get on with in your social circle? learn2sample.

[Deleted User] · 13-01-2006 12:51pm

Dustaz wrote:

http://www.themeparkinsider.com/news/response.cfm?ID=1296

Ban this evil mode of transport NOW!

What a bad analogy.

You can fix rollercoasters and make them safer not so with cannabis (if it even is dangerous to begin with).

Tha Gopher · 13-01-2006 1:20pm

Dustaz wrote:

Its quite possibly that in medical and chemical books and papers there is an added e. However, since I and the vast majority of the population lack a Phd in medicine, we stick with the STANDARDISED spelling so that other people dont think were talking about a gutsy lady winning against all the odds. Generally, I leave it to the ignorant assholes to use the non-standard spellings.

The irony of all this being that you mispelled cannabis at the start of your post.......

rubadub · 13-01-2006 1:49pm

ronoc wrote:

What a bad analogy.

You can fix rollercoasters and make them safer not so with cannabis (if it even is dangerous to begin with).

The analogy is more along the lines of people engaging in risky activity for the sake of entertainment or enjoyment. People should research their activities be it skydiving or smoking cannabis, then make an informed decision whether or not to take up the activity.
If there is even a slight chance of another rollercoaster failing then why not ban them? they serve no medicinal purpose so nobody should use them :rolleyes: (yes a fuking ridiculous argument, just like that non-medicinal argument to keep recreational drugs illegal)

rubadub · 13-01-2006 1:53pm

Dustaz wrote:

Its quite possibly that in medical and chemical books and papers there is an added e.

Quite possibly? no doubt you found it in several of the online dictionaries you searched for but only posted those without it.

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+heroine&meta=

Dustaz wrote:

However, since I and the vast majority of the population lack a Phd in medicine, we stick with the STANDARDISED spelling so that other people dont think were talking about a gutsy lady winning against all the odds. Generally, I leave it to the ignorant assholes to use the non-standard spellings..

You dont need a Phd to know it or use it, and I really don't think there was any confusion whatsoever that he was talking about the drug. How is he ignorant?he is not lacking the knowledge that it can be spelt either way. I presume you were ignorant of that fact until now.

Dustaz · 13-01-2006 1:57pm

rubadub wrote:

Quite possibly? no doubt you found it in several of the online dictionaries you searched for but only posted those without it.

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+heroine&meta=
.

lol, one result from a medical web page? gg.

Thats pretty much why i used the above 3 dictionaries as references and dont bother searching teh intraweb.

rubadub · 13-01-2006 2:16pm

Dustaz wrote:

lol, one result from a medical web page? gg.
.

1 out of 3 definitions by google and it was there, whats so funny about that. Like I said no doubt you found plenty and just didnt post them. I can't be arsed finding a load of dictionaries that list it, I have no doubt there are plenty out there. I am sure "my first dictionary" wouldnt list it, decent ones do.

you listed 4, if I get 5 do I win :rolleyes:

egan007 · 13-01-2006 2:19pm

boo2u wrote:

There is so much publicity about drugs in dublin these days with reports that pub owners are putting baby oil on cisterns in toilets to stop people snorting cocaine is dublin that bad???

Yeah it's bad - they should be providing flat mirrors and razor blades.

[Deleted User] · 13-01-2006 2:44pm

rubadub wrote:

The analogy is more along the lines of people engaging in risky activity for the sake of entertainment or enjoyment. People should research their activities be it skydiving or smoking cannabis, then make an informed decision whether or not to take up the activity.
If there is even a slight chance of another rollercoaster failing then why not ban them? they serve no medicinal purpose so nobody should use them :rolleyes: (yes a fuking ridiculous argument, just like that non-medicinal argument to keep recreational drugs illegal)

Well if rollercoasters were illegal to begin with your argument might make some sense.

But I agree with the research bit.

buzzerxx · 14-01-2006 1:15am

cocaine is here forever,i think most people that use it are a bit shy and they like the confidence it gives,i also think its too expensive.

Time Magazine · 14-01-2006 1:55am

rubadub wrote:

The analogy is more along the lines of people engaging in risky activity for the sake of entertainment or enjoyment. People should research their activities be it skydiving or smoking cannabis, then make an informed decision whether or not to take up the activity.

There are a few very important pieces of information missing from your analysis.

Firstly, sky-diving is, by and large, very safe. This site shows that the death-rate from sky-diving stands at 0.0003%. This, in my opinion, is an acceptable level of risk. More people die from coconuts landing on their head than that sort of a thing.

What is an unacceptable level of risk? I can't quantify for that you exactly. But I am of the opinion that doubling the chance of schrizophenia is an unacceptable level of risk.

Additionally, sky-diving is some what of an art that you can become better at and safer at. It is possible to sky-dive hundreds of times with no detremental effect to your health; it's actually probably good to get the exercise. Smoking cannabis, on the other the hand, is pretty much always carcinagenic. If you do it hundreds of times it increases your chances of cancer. You must also accept that, at the very least, there is a large body of evidence to suggest that it is psychologically devastating to many people.

The State has the authority to enforce its health rules on its citizens. Should the State not have the power to force blood transfusions [free registration needed] on children of Jehova's Witnesses? What about force feeding an 18 year old girl who suffers bulimia? Of course it can.

I completely agree with the concept of free healthcare and education. But I point-blank refuse to allow people to willingly harm themselves and then still expect the use of the health service (note: unless someone is actually self-harming; then they're ill etc). Nor do I accept the principle of paying for health services if you have cannabis-induced cancer. The only logical conclusion: illegalityof its possession.

sweety4uall · 14-01-2006 3:45am

mise_me_fein_V2 wrote:

Anyone here ever take Heroin?

I've heard it's better than sex.

whoever told u that obviously just having bad sex.

SpAcEd OuT · 14-01-2006 12:43pm

From what I hear Heroin is nothing like an orgasm. You know the feeling after sex.. Relaxed, happy, refreshed, carefree, and this placidness that lets you stare off for a minute and relish in it.. Thats how you feel on Heroin. A feeling of "Ahhhhhhhh".

egan007 · 14-01-2006 1:03pm

Angry Banana wrote:

The State has the authority to enforce its health rules on its citizens. Should the State not have the power to force blood transfusions [free registration needed] on children of Jehova's Witnesses? What about force feeding an 18 year old girl who suffers bulimia? Of course it can.

I completely agree with the concept of free healthcare and education. But I point-blank refuse to allow people to willingly harm themselves and then still expect the use of the health service (note: unless someone is actually self-harming; then they're ill etc). Nor do I accept the principle of paying for health services if you have cannabis-induced cancer. The only logical conclusion: illegalityof its possession.

1. the state holds no authority over a citized outside the agreed law.
2. i can only assume you find it ok to do cocaine if you have private heath care

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