LEAP CARD - Updated Summary of Cards/Functionality Available - December 2014

Carawaystick wrote: »

I don't think this is it.
The bus should know where it is, I mean how would real time passenger info work without this?
The driver should also update the stage/location of the bus too, so there's 2 systems telling the bus where it is.

Twice I put my card on the drivers panel, told the driver the craic, he pressed whatever buttons he needed, and rested his citiog on his lap as if he was done, I moved my card and was called back as there was a card read error.

Even ignoring the card read error, the time until I started to move my card was much longer than a cash transaction would have taken.

The above (all too frequent) scenario usually occurs when other cards are simultaneously presented to the remote validator.

The Remote Validator is in constant communication with the Drivers Machine allowing for the display of whatever ticket mode has been validated.

If there is a Machine Based Transaction actually ongoing at that time,the machine cannot process the two simultaneously,which usually in a "Card Read Error".

As the numbers of Leapcard users and range of cards has increased,so too has the above problem.

There are also,far less frequent,cases of dead Leapcards,which refuse to read at all,but these are rare enough to discount.

The interfacing of the Ticket Machine with the GPS will soon be enabled,but currently the Ticket Machine settings do not synch with the GPS.

It is obvious to all,except it seems Senior Leapcard people,that the 500ms per transaction target is nowhere near being met in normal use.

This is frustrating for both Drivers and Customers,and even more so when one compares it to the TfL Oystercard target of 300ms per transaction.

It is without doubt a major impediment to the further success of Leapcard,and equally,it should never have been allowed to develop into the problem it currently is.

10 years and €40 Million,of time and money invested,really should have ensured this situation never occurred.

I bought a new adult Leap Card, paid the 5 euro refundable deposit on it and got a 30 day adult rambler on it. I assume it will still work okay even though I haven't loaded any travel credit onto it and only have the rambler ticket?

Carawaystick wrote: »

the time until I started to move my card was much longer than a cash transaction would have taken.

Even now that the Galway drivers (well most of 'em ) have got used to Leap, we're still seeing that: Leap payments are taking far longer than cash ones.

BostonB wrote: »

Mine updated when I used the train this morning.

I think it works differently for trains.

lxflyer wrote: »

Correct - Bus ticket holders need to go to a Payzone agent.

Out of curiosity is it possible to get the card loaded at a Luas stop?

Hi guys, have the annual bus and luas leap card. With my card last year, I never had to tag on or off when using the luas. Is it the same with this card or do I need to tag on? Tried looking it up on the tax saver website but couldn't find any information.

lucernarian wrote: »

There's still those "single tickets" as they're now called in the airport;)

An actual 90 minute ticket like so many other metropolitan regions seem to be able to issue for their public transport. Is the travel 90 €3.05 now?? It will be cheaper to use one of those for most kinds of 2-bus journey in Dublin.

The Vending Machine T90 single ticket is,from memory,€2.95.

It has to be viewed in the context of the NTA's policy to reduce the Travel 90 product's attractiveness when compared to Leapcard PAYG.

This has largely occurred systemwide,with the Airport being the only location where the single T90 is marketed.

With the arrival of Swiftway services to the Airport,we can expect a significant overhaul of ALL ticketing options there within the next 12-18 months.

lucernarian wrote: »

I found out earlier, it's 3.10 it seems. I'm pretty sure it was increased not too long ago but I didn't know by how much.

With regards multi-modal transfers, it's welcome to see this extension of functionality but for bus users it's a bitter pill to swallow when the functionality and value for money offered by travel 90s for years and years is replaced with such a compromise.

Swiftway is a long way from actual provision and implementation though I can think of Summerhill drivers who think otherwise... I'll be surprised and fascinated if they get it done by the middle of 2016.

The very successful Travel 90,was an inevitable casuality of the ITS programme,as it was company specific and popular....too popular.

The decision to reduce it's popularity rested with the NTA,but was taken in the context of the far larger ITS picture,the various elements of which are slowly...so slowly now being put in place.

As for Swiftway,irrespective of the thoughts of Drivers,the project is underway.

While I would have certain misgivings as to the greater €600 Million region wide BRT scheme,it is entirely likely that the Swords/Airport Spur BRT will be up and running in late 2017...assuming the availibility of funding.