[Treora]

After the IEC in the RDS, while we were all watching football, those nice people from the Murphy report organising a come back via billboards and hot button topics ahead of Ireland's constitutional conference. They essentially want to claim a success by keeping religion and blasphemy in the constitution.

They are using unknowing and well meaning filter organisations to push their agenda. The behind the scenes funders will only fund their issues and the red light campaign can join peace meal not knowing that the last anti-choice and current anti-sex campaigns are funded by the same people.

The last one was coir's youth defence telling Ireland that Irish women did not know their own mind and were incompetent on making their own decisions regarding their own bodies. Youth defence considered a pregnancy from rape to be a blessing.

The current mission is to re-control sex for the church by proxy. They want to make paying for sex illegal. Germany has state brothels and everything is quite safe, not perfect, but 10 times better than it will be in Ireland if they ban paying for sex (it is legal in Ireland as long as there is no solicitation). Sweden tried this and now they regret it and are changing the law to New Zealand's small brothel system.

They have mis-associated slavery and human trafficking with consenting, safe and taxed prostitution. This is like mixing in a nine year old getting alcohol as a reason for alcohol prohibition. Most trafficking comes from eastern European gangs and independent religious authorities from Africa seducing youth women to Ireland with work and then torturing them within their closed communities. This policy would be less likely to survive in an inter-cultural rather than closed multicultural society. The Irish government could just advertise that there are no jobs for young women in Ireland (high unemployment and the locals are leaving) and then the number of conned victims would drop.

So where is the money sourced. Coir sourced 80% its money from USA super PACs. This is where corporations, really just their CEO's choose to donate the money, get a tax deduction and rename anonymous in political campaigns. This is highly anti-democratic. The super PAC money is coming from the Romney 2012 campaign overflow.

So the ideology of the funders is vital to understanding the damage that this will do to Ireland. They are religious right wing extremists. They have supported the Klan in the past and are supported by Murdock aka FOX news (Sky news in Ireland). The Koch brothers are big donors, but they are only the tip of the iceberg. The campaigners will say that they got their money from other sources, and some they did, but they will not fully disclose their donors back to natural persons. Donations will always be hidden behind financial secrecy walls.

So if you don't like the idea of American right wing religious extremists that like paying for operation Iraqi 'freedom', but not healthcare for infants from disadvantaged communities. If you don't like secrecy and corruption in politics. If you don't like foreign interference with Irish policies, then demand through your TDs that every politically active charity and organisation that publicly advertises their message must disclose every donor and a full set of audited accounts.

If you want to stop this hate campaign tweet the #billboard_company's_name. Tell them that they are supporting a right-wing religious extremist cause and that any other products displayed on their billboards will be campaigned against. Make it big and hopefully they will pull the ads for fear of future loss of sales.

I am confident that the Irish can discuss and stop human trafficking independently from the agendas of religious groups.

[Ash.J.Williams]

Germany has state brothels and everything is quite safe, not perfect, but 10 times better than it will be in Ireland if they ban paying for sex (it is legal in Ireland as long as there is no solicitation).

I doubt German hookers are any happier than anywhere else. It's not google.

[Procrastastudy]

Originally Posted by Ash.J.Williams

I doubt German hookers are any happier than anywhere else. It's not google.

Is it better than, say, processing chickens, cleaning toilets or working in a shop?

Different people want to do different things - some people would find the above jobs more demeaning than prostitution - some of course would not. Leave individual choice to the individual and enforce the laws as they stand. We're great in this country and trying to fix things with new laws when all we really need to do is enforce what we already have.

Let be frank though very few people choose a life in prostitution - its a job out of necessity like many jobs. Germany doesn't have it 100% right - its generally an immigrant work force in these brothels.

[looksee]

OP, Conspiracy Theories is thata way ^^^

[The Corinthian]

Originally Posted by looksee

OP, Conspiracy Theories is thata way ^^^

Hardly a conspiracy theory Looksee, neither should it be a surprise OP.

That the sex industry would be opposed by (Abrahamic) religious groups and that they would fund or otherwise involve themselves in campaigns against them is a bit on a 'no brainer'. What would surprise me more is that this should be news to anyone.