Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all,
Vanilla are planning an update to the site on April 24th (next Wednesday). It is a major PHP8 update which is expected to boost performance across the site. The site will be down from 7pm and it is expected to take about an hour to complete. We appreciate your patience during the update.
Thanks all.

TV3 Toy Show, inappropriatally sexual for a kids show?

12357

Comments

  • #122
    Deenie123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 481 ✭✭Deenie123


    On repeat now


  • #123
    deise08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    anncoates wrote: »
    No sh1t.

    :) I should hope so, :) would be very uncomfortable otherwise :)


  • #124
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    deise08 wrote: »
    :) I should hope so, :) would be very uncomfortable otherwise :)

    The art of douching


  • #125
    Laura Palmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭Laura Palmer


    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    on the topic of dolls


    barbie-vs-he-man.jpg
    DoYouEverStopObsessing? :)


  • #126
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    If you're kids have any questions about 'gay', just explain it to them. It's really no big deal.

    Even a 5 year old 'gets' it.

    http://youtu.be/-ybAlFrV8f4

    Even if they get a little confused sometimes....
    http://youtu.be/wvUdUUWOF10


  • Advertisement
  • #127
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    batnolan wrote: »
    Look at all the sexual innuendo that goes on in cartoon shows.

    Animaniacs being the prime example!
    deise08 wrote: »
    :) I should hope so, :) would be very uncomfortable otherwise :)

    I would think it would be more uncomfortable for there to be none, to be honest :pac:


  • #128
    Paramite Pie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Paramite Pie


    newmug wrote: »
    I'll give your intelligence the benefit of the doubt here, seeing as you continuously state that you didn't see the show. It was a GAY man, telling the story of how his favourite CHILDHOOD toy was Action Man. Grand. But then he went on to say how he used to undress him (why would you do that, if not for some sort of twisted sexual thrill), and also cross dress him, into female clothes. This guy was layering it on thick, it was obvious that he had a sexual motive for doing these things. It was all so skin-crawlingly obvious that he loved saying this.

    I don't know why he brought it up (and by the sounds of it maybe he shouldn't have) but kids at that era weren't aware of sexuality like they are now -- and most psychologists agree that kids express their curiosity in an innocent way at this stage - like straight kids showing each other their genetalia (they're too young to have 'twisted' sexual desires!!). This was a curious kid expressing something innate that he wasn't aware off - mostly gender 'bending' since he played with it like a girls toy.

    And what boy didn't undress his sisters barbies??? I did. But I was too young to have 'twisted' sexual desires at that age.
    newmug wrote: »
    And as for "Cross dressing is dressing in clothes designed for members of the other sex. It doesn't mean it has any sexual connections.", come off it, will ya? Of course it has a sexual motive. Why don't people go around dressing up as walrus's then?

    Since gay guys are not attracted to women they why would they be aroused by female clothing?!? Cross Dressing has to do with identity not sexuality.


  • #129
    conorh91
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Does anyone have a link to the offending material?

    I saw a little bit of the show on TV, but it looked like a cringeworthy rip-off of the Toy Show.


  • #130
    keano_afc
    Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    nm wrote: »
    Some of the replies here are funny, it's like the guy gets a free pass for sleazy sexual innuendo on a kids show because he's gay

    Spot on. It reminds me of the Norris presidential campaign. " He wrote a letter on behalf of a rapist! Despicable! Oh wait, he's gay. That's ok then."


  • #131
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 12,996 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    keano_afc wrote: »
    Spot on. It reminds me of the Norris presidential campaign. " He wrote a letter on behalf of a rapist! Despicable! Oh wait, he's gay. That's ok then."

    There is nothing sleazy about what Brian Dowling said, nor sexual.


  • Advertisement
  • #132
    conorh91
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    There is nothing sleazy about what Brian Dowling said, nor sexual.
    Did he say he liked to undress action men, using humour of a sexual tone?

    Because yeah, that seems inappropriate for a kids TV show.

    Imaginbe I told your daughter "oh yeah, I remember Barbie, as a hormonal kid, I liked to undress her". How acceptable would you find that? This is not cringey barstool nostalgia. It's a kids' tv show.


  • #133
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    What sexual gratification would a gay man get by put a skirt on an Action Man?

    Unless he went commando.


  • #134
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Christmas tip: looking for a gift for a trans-curious kid with militaristic/nationalist homophobic parents that you don't want to offend? This fine Action Man makes a good compromise that will satisfy everyone.

    http://www.actionmanhq.co.uk/pages/soldierpages/argyll.html


  • #135
    FunLover18
    Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    newmug wrote: »
    I'll give your intelligence the benefit of the doubt here, seeing as you continuously state that you didn't see the show. It was a GAY man, telling the story of how his favourite CHILDHOOD toy was Action Man. Grand. But then he went on to say how he used to undress him (why would you do that, if not for some sort of twisted sexual thrill), and also cross dress him, into female clothes. This guy was layering it on thick, it was obvious that he had a sexual motive for doing these things. It was all so skin-crawlingly obvious that he loved saying this.


    And as for "Cross dressing is dressing in clothes designed for members of the other sex. It doesn't mean it has any sexual connections.", come off it, will ya? Of course it has a sexual motive. Why don't people go around dressing up as walrus's then?

    I'm not going to read the whole thread but I would often undress my Action Man to … you know … put other clothes on him. The only difference here is that he put women's clothes on the action and again I fail to see the problem. Maybe Action Man needed to go undercover.

    Now I haven't seen the clip either and you may be right that there may be outrage if a man was saying he used to take off Barbie clothes but I think that's where the problem is. A boy takes a barbies' clothes off, he must be a rapist? Nah.


  • #136
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Jaysus, I don't think anyone is calling him a rapist!

    Has anyone got the clip or a link to it?


  • #137
    FunLover18
    Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Jaysus, I don't think anyone is calling him a rapist!

    Has anyone got the clip or a link to it?

    No but the OP suggested that if it was a straight man there would be a stronger reaction, presumably because he'd be accused of being sex crazed or something.
    newmug wrote: »
    If that was a straight man saying his favourite doll was his sisters Barbie, and that he used to undress her for pervy reasons, there would have been uproar.


  • #138
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    No but the OP suggested that if it was a straight man there would be a stronger reaction, presumably because he'd be accused of being sex crazed or something.

    Which is in fact worthy of debate.


  • #139
    FunLover18
    Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Which is in fact worthy of debate.

    Well as I was saying I might have more of a problem with a strong reaction to that scenario as I feel it would be completely unnecessary. No matter what the gender, kids are going to undress and dress dolls. Claiming that they're perverted for doing so is ridiculous.

    With regard to a link, the show seems to be on the TV3 player but my internet is terrible and it's over an hour long.


  • #140
    Larianne
    Registered Users Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    I think the Brian Dowling snippet would have gone over the kids' heads.

    What I thought was inappropriate was the segment where there was a bunch of kids demonstrating those Nerf-type guns and Brian McFadden was encouraging the kids to point and shoot into the audience! SOMEONE COULD HAVE LOST AN EYE!!!


  • #141
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    Well as I was saying I might have more of a problem with a strong reaction to that scenario as I feel it would be completely unnecessary. No matter what the gender, kids are going to undress and dress dolls. Claiming that they're perverted for doing so is ridiculous.

    With regard to a link, the show seems to be on the TV3 player but my internet is terrible and it's over an hour long.

    Haven't seen it myself, because the ads they force you to watch are far more offensive than anything that could possibly follow and I gave up.


  • Advertisement
  • #142
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 12,996 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    conorh91 wrote: »
    Did he say he liked to undress action men, using humour of a sexual tone?

    Because yeah, that seems inappropriate for a kids TV show.

    Imaginbe I told your daughter "oh yeah, I remember Barbie, as a hormonal kid, I liked to undress her". How acceptable would you find that? This is not cringey barstool nostalgia. It's a kids' tv show.

    You need to lighten up.


  • #143
    conorh91
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    You need to lighten up.
    You need to learn how to advance an argument around adults.


  • #144
    Noobascious
    Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭Noobascious


    To be fair ur all a pack of pervs weather it's books or visual same for kids just a pack of pervs. Amen to that ****.


  • #145
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    TV3 and Brian Dowling is fairly low rent anyway. Doubt many kids saw it. Don't think it was offensive. Brenda O'Brein could write an article about it


  • #146
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 12,996 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    conorh91 wrote: »
    You need to learn how to advance an argument around adults.

    Read my previous posts! I can't repeat myself.


  • #147
    Slot Machine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭Slot Machine


    newmug's posting history cannot be stressed enough. Calling the OP homophobic, taking that post in isolation? Going too far.

    Keeping newmug's opinions on homosexuality in mind while doing so? Perfectly reasonable.


  • #148
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,790 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Honestly I think going on and on and on and on about homophobia in this discussion is very ott and very off topic.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #149
    tk123
    Registered Users Posts: 14,020 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-dressed-in-womens-clothes-robs-cash-from-dublin-businessman-652091.html

    :pac:


  • #150
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,790 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    tk123 wrote: »
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-dressed-in-womens-clothes-robs-cash-from-dublin-businessman-652091.html

    :pac:

    And?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Advertisement
  • #151
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    I'm surprised Channel 4 / 3E or the likes havent' done and 'after dark' Toy Show for adults... if you get my drift.
    Lots of battery operated toys and 'costumes' etc.
    Might get a huge rating and have 'tie ins' with 50 shades of grey movie.
    :D


Advertisement