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As someone who has also been looking around for a watch, price wise I'd avoid the retail prices quoted by the Irish shops and buy abroad.
Some grey market shops have the same models you listed there such as Creation Watches which people on boards have used before (I haven't but there is a lot of info about them on the net) and the savings can be considerable at that price range.
Thanks for this. When you say buy abroad, where is a good place to buy? I travel a bit and I'm off to the south of France next week, but not sure if I want to purchase in anywhere that may have counterfeit or sub standard stock. Is buying online a better option at all?Mitch Buchannon wrote: »For you budget I would suggest Steinhart / Tissot / Seiko.
I like the diver range from Steinhart. Smart looking, look great with a suit as well as t-shirt and jeans. Waterproof too so you won't have to take it off washing dishes or taking a shower. If you don't like it it should be very easy to sell on.
http://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/diver-watch.html
Seiko and Tissot are also great brands. You won't really go wrong with them either.
Thanks for the link, I don't think the Steinharts are to my taste to be honest, Out of what you suggested, Tissot and Seiko are two brands I'd be open to as they seem to have models that are in the style I'm looking for.SpannerMonkey wrote: »ive had one of these for a few years now and still imaculate
Seiko Arctura
Doesn't look bad, but I think I've seen others that are a bit more to my fancy.
I took a look at the Citizen Titanium range and there is one for €350 which doens't look too bad. It's very light and fits well on my hand. There's a lot of choice out there and I guess it's down to personal preference but what are the gauges or measurements you guys use for a watch?
I.e. for a phone, you could say screen size, weight, processing power etc.. For a watch, I know that the size of the face, potentially the weight and the crown are things to watch out for, but what else? I see a lot of speak regarding 'movement'.. Can anyone enlighten me as to what this means? Is it the way in which the needles move around the face?0 -
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Well I think most people here are looking mainly at
- Build Quality
- Design
- Movement
- Functions
- Retained value
The 2 watches you picked out have quartz movements and so are powered by a battery, they are pretty accurate on a day to day basis.
The Seiko watch has a chronograph (stop watch function) and it will need battery replacements every 2yrs or so.
The Citizen has a battery also but it is solar powered so the battery should top up it's charge provided it gets enough access to light. It has no chronograph function. It has a perpetual calendar, which means the date adjusts for the different length of months and leap years.
Mechanical movements are powered by either winding them (daily or every other day usually) or by the movement of your wrist (automatic). They will stop if you leave them in a drawer for more than 2 days. Often people who are like watches prefer mechanical movements. They are not usually as accurate as quartz watches (but I haven't adjusted the time on my €300 watch since 1st March, and it is still within 1 minute). Different movements are more sought after depending on whether they are in-house (designed and built by the watch brand), bought in Swiss (Usually made by ETA -part of the Swatch group (The Steinharts have these movements)), Japanese good quality movements a lot cheaper than Swiss (because of watch history), Russian or other (usually Chinese or Indian).
So I guess you should decide what you want out of your watch and prioritise the list for you.
Do you just want a watch that looks good?
What functions do you want?
Which movement broadly speaking do you want (Quartz/Handwound/Automatic)?
Then try to find the best value.
If you are interested in automatics for your price range, as an alternative to the Steinharts, have a look at Orient. Not in shops here, good value on this website. They use an in house japanese movement which is good, but doesn't have a hacking second (at least on my one).
€289 (but out of stock at the moment)
You will also be able to get Tissot and Seiko automatics for the money. Mechanical chronographs are usually more expensive due to the extra complication, and may be starting to get relatively thick for the same reason.0 -
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Maybe check out my recent thread - my budget was a bit lower than yours, but you might get some ideas.
Thanks for this, I've had a read through it
Monty Burnz wrote: »To be fair, if you want to get something a bit more 'special' at that price range, you can't really do any better than buying vintage. €300 plus €100 for a service would buy you a nice vintage watch on the Bay that will last you years, and will have a lot more character and class than a €400 modern watch. You'd probably have no shortage of suggestions if you were willing to consider it - and of course your fears re. fakery aren't really an issue if you avoid Omega. I don't think there's anything else in that price range that is very frequently faked.
Edit: just saw the ones you are thinking of - they look pretty nasty to me, but of course we all have different tastes! Ignore my suggestion so - I was really thinking of 3 hand watches, with a date at a push...
You see, the thing is, that's all I want! or is it? lol.. I do like the simple faces, but something I also like is the additional smaller faces etc.. I guess that's why I'm on here, I'm looking for suggestions etc...
However, do speak to me now about second hand.. I took a look at adverts and although nothing really jumped out.. I guess it could be 'worth a punt' if the right watch came up.If you're flying through T2, check out the watch shop that's near the gates. They tend to be a bit cheaper than Irish retailers. Sometimes as cheap as online retailers, but not that often.
My Steinhart just arrived today and I'm extremely happy with it. I can't believe how much watch I got for 350 delivered.
I'm flying through on Tuesday afternoon! I'll take a look and see what I find.. I really should try my best to do as much research as I can before that though!0 -
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nt! or is it? lol.. I do like the simple faces, but something I also like is the additional smaller faces etc..
However, do speak to me now about second hand.. I took a look at adverts and although nothing really jumped out..
Well you see, now we've gotten to the root of the problem.... and don't worry your not the first..... you don't need another watch ....you need 2 at least!
It is worth looking at some of the watch forums sales forums as well as adverts. If you see something you like you can always post here and get opinions, but it's you who'll be wearing it, so make sure you get a watch that you like.0 -
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Monty Burnz wrote: »Don't know if he'll be able to see this, but this might be up the OP's alley: http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=217231&sid=f2bac3c42fddae5d121efb51aab5ca00
Spotted by Homer...
just in case they can't.. here are the pics. Currently asking £260 including delivery
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My previous watch was a Tissot PRC 200 which is great value for money. They're about 330 new. It has the sub dials you like, but it still is a bit simpler than the designs you've mentioned. Off the top of my head, a Citizen Skyhawk might be an option too?
Thanks for the suggestions man, much appreciated and keep them coming, the Tissot is nice, but I'm not sure why, I don't really like the face/crown (not sure if that's the right word)blindsider wrote: »
Perferably looking for a metal strap as opposed to leather/rubber. But that one doesn't look too bad..Well you see, now we've gotten to the root of the problem.... and don't worry your not the first..... you don't need another watch ....you need 2 at least!
It is worth looking at some of the watch forums sales forums as well as adverts. If you see something you like you can always post here and get opinions, but it's you who'll be wearing it, so make sure you get a watch that you like.
I think you're right about the 2 watches statement. I'm seriously considering it now, but I think I'll start with one more and build my collection as I go. As for watching forums, I already following around 4 or 5 non watch related forums but I might take a look at one or two.. I've been watching adverts like a hawk, which ones would be the highest volume etc etc?just in case they can't.. here are the pics. Currently asking £260 including delivery
That is really nice.. I can't get onto the thread but can someone just tell me roughly what the story is with it? It looks really nice, now I know I said I'd go second hand, but would prefer something new as well if possible, I'm in no rush to buy (although I can be extermely impulsive at times..)
Also, one more thing to note, the back of the watch, where you can see all of the 'movement?' (i'm still a noob!) or the mechanics of everything moving around, that is really cool and something I'd like to have on the watch I'm getting.
Any further recommendations both new and second hand would be great.
Thanks
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Due to recent changes on the forum you will need at least 50 posts before you can even see the sales corner section and at least 250 posts before you can make posts there.
As you can't see the post I have posted some of the relevant info below for you in case you are interested in the Hamilton.
I am selling my Hamilton H32656785 Jazzmaster auto chrono, the one with the grey dial and blue hands. The watch has a Valjoux 7753 movement and is a pleasure to the eye. It comes as is, just the watch, no box, papers or stick to set date.
I have bought this of Ebay myself. I posted the experience here as it was advertised as new, which I paid for ,and I received it with usage marks. Nothing too bad but when I pay for new I want new. I one the paypal dispute but had also taken it to a Jeweler for assessment, they fixed it in an hour for EUR 10 with a mild polish. Shipping back insured to the USA was over EUR 30 so I made that logical choice. I kept the invoice which I can also ship.
I'm looking for EUR 750 excluding shipping, have it advertised elsewehere for slightly more but if I can make someone here happy and deal with a tz-uk user that would have my preference.
It really is in great shape, runs fine and the most you'll see of usage is the bottom part of the strap - see for yourself. Was going to replace the strap with a dark blue one but never got round to that, do have some pictures though of how that looks if you are interested.
Thanks for this, the problem I'm having is, I can't even register on the forum at the moment
Monty Burnz wrote: »Bear in mind that the watches you are strongly considering are quartz watches and have nothing to see inside (unless you like plastic and batteries) so won't have transparent case backs.
I guess I'm making progress, I'd like something that isn't just battery powered, I'd like something that's not automatic.0 -
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