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Now I wish I owned a macro!

  • 19-06-2012 4:04pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭


    Today I got bitten by the camera bug. I haven't been all that active with it lately, but today I just felt that need to photograph something, anything.

    At first I tried to photograph a bird, but none took the bait. Then I tried a wild flower, too windy and I have tried it before. So I packed up and went to go back inside, only to spot a small cluster of flies...

    The problem is I don’t own a macro lens, so I’ve never tried insect photography. They are small, they are fast, mostly they aren't all that pretty and there is a real technique to getting it right.

    In saying all that, there is first time for everything and I'm always up for a challenge. They aren't critically sharp, but we all start somewhere and it has given me food for thought for the future.

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    This is what I love about photography, who knows when the next obsessions will hit us! :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    Why don't you get this, as far as I know your Fuji is the same mount as Nikon for lens.
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/New-Macro-Extension-Tube-Nikon-Ai-AF-DSLR-SLR-D5000-D7000-D90-D3100-UK-/160751008502?pt=UK_Photography_CameraLenses_Lens_caps_hoods_adaptors_ET&hash=item256d81baf6

    They do work well especially if you have a 50mm lens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,631 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Have you concidered Freelensing? Detatch your lens, turn it round and hold the lens backwards against the body and then focus on your subject by moving the lens. Great fun if nerve wracking.
    Link to Flicker Freelensing shots. <--Not mine. :)

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭lisatiffany


    I have to say I'm having a lot of fun with macro lately, but I tend to stay away from insects for the simple fact that they freak me out. I made the mistake of setting up my macro lens over a spider yesterday then looked through live view and it was too much, in the end I settled on a snail. Fear of insects aside that first picture is brilliant. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    pixbyjohn wrote: »
    Why don't you get this, as far as I know your Fuji is the same mount as Nikon for lens.
    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/New-Macro-Extension-Tube-Nikon-Ai-AF-DSLR-SLR-D5000-D7000-D90-D3100-UK-/160751008502?pt=UK_Photography_CameraLenses_Lens_caps_hoods_adaptors_ET&hash=item256d81baf6

    They do work well especially if you have a 50mm lens.
    Yes the S5 is basically the D200, with a Fuji chip and programming.

    I've looked at getting tubes before, but I've read that they can reduce the light by 2 stops, or more.

    In saying that, I have a 50mm and E5? What could it hurt? :D

    OldGoat wrote: »
    Have you concidered Freelensing? Detatch your lens, turn it round and hold the lens backwards against the body and then focus on your subject by moving the lens. Great fun if nerve wracking.
    Link to Flicker Freelensing shots. <--Not mine. :)
    Freelensing scares the crap out of me! :p

    But I've seen some great stuff on line - don't know if I'd try it outside for the first time though...


    Kit wise though I think I'm ok. I decided to give it another go earlier today, until it started to drizzle. Except this time I went out with insects in mind. I stuck on my 70-300mm lens, an adapter ring and a couple of close up filters.

    The 300mm gives me space to work, but it will take a lot of trail and error to work out the focusing distance. I've never used this combo before and it takes ages to rock myself into the right position.

    A bit of practice and maybe I'll start getting average results! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    I have to say I'm having a lot of fun with macro lately, but I tend to stay away from insects for the simple fact that they freak me out. I made the mistake of setting up my macro lens over a spider yesterday then looked through live view and it was too much, in the end I settled on a snail. Fear of insects aside that first picture is brilliant. :)
    You can say alot about spiders, but the aren't pretty up close! :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    K_user wrote: »
    You can say alot about spiders, but the aren't pretty up close! :D

    Google says different
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    Dawwwwwwwwwwww :pac:

    Meant to add aswell, I have the extension tubes pointed out by pixbyjohn above.
    Takes some getting used to and trial & error but they do work pretty well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭hbr


    K_user wrote: »
    You can say alot about spiders, but the aren't pretty up close! :D

    You haven't met Betty:
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    Or how about this Garden Spider?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    Google says different
    flat,550x550,075,f.jpg
    Dawwwwwwwwwwww :pac:
    Aaahhhhh!! Look at the little cutie! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    hbr wrote: »
    You haven't met Betty:
    Or how about this Garden Spider?
    OK! Point made...kinda... :D

    Spiders for the most part are fascinating creatures, but they aren't puppies. They have their own type of beauty.

    Better? :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Just took a quick example of the extension tubes with my 50mm 1.8
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    Thats from a couple of inchs away. Everything manual ends up in trial and error a lot but they can work out


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    I bought a macro lens recently (Pentax 100mm f2.8 1:1) and it's a learning curve!
    Such a narrow field of focus.

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    Hair curler by Photoblog.ie (Patrick Dinneen), on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    dinneenp wrote: »
    I bought a macro lens recently (Pentax 100mm f2.8 1:1) and it's a learning curve!
    Such a narrow field of focus.

    But you don't have to shoot at f2.8 for all macros :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    pixbyjohn wrote: »
    But you don't have to shoot at f2.8 for all macros :D

    I know. Began playing with it indoors in the evenings (when I was free) and light isn't great then.
    have since been using it outdoors & with tripod.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭penev10


    Glad it's not just me struggling with all things macro! some way better shots above than anything I'm getting though.

    I'm using a 70-300mm which has a macro setting between 200-300mm which doesn't leave much room for manoeuvre.

    Probably best of the shots I've gotten so far:
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    Still doesn't feel like I'm getting close enough so have ordered some diopter filters (any use?) and an extension tube.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    I have found that you dont' need a macro lens for macro/closeup photography (even though I bought one).

    Compact cameras (is that a dirty word here?) can produce very good results

    taken with a compact

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    Beer by Photoblog.ie (Patrick Dinneen), on Flickr

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    Golden Rain Drop Macro by Photoblog.ie (Patrick Dinneen), on Flickr

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    snow by Photoblog.ie (Patrick Dinneen), on Flickr

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    Weed 2 by Photoblog.ie (Patrick Dinneen), on Flickr


    taken with a bridge camera (I often recommend a bridge camera as a great 'getting into' photography camera; jack of all trades

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    blowing in the wind by Photoblog.ie (Patrick Dinneen), on Flickr

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    A rose by any other name by Photoblog.ie (Patrick Dinneen), on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    Just took a quick example of the extension tubes with my 50mm 1.8

    Thats from a couple of inchs away. Everything manual ends up in trial and error a lot but they can work out
    Thats great stuff! Definitely worth looking into...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    dinneenp wrote: »
    I bought a macro lens recently (Pentax 100mm f2.8 1:1) and it's a learning curve!
    Such a narrow field of focus.
    You can see the difference straight away. If you can afford it, there are real reasons for investing in a macro lens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    penev10 wrote: »
    Glad it's not just me struggling with all things macro! some way better shots above than anything I'm getting though.

    I'm using a 70-300mm which has a macro setting between 200-300mm which doesn't leave much room for manoeuvre.

    Probably best of the shots I've gotten so far:

    Still doesn't feel like I'm getting close enough so have ordered some diopter filters (any use?) and an extension tube.
    I have the close up filters and they have their uses.

    As I mentioned earlier I had never tried them on the 300mm before, but a quick test proved that they do the job. It gives you the space to work, so you don't have to have your nose to the subject. But its really hard to find the focusing sweet spot. It goes from almost there, to completely blurred, in mm movements.

    Hopefully I'll get to try them outside over the weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    dinneenp wrote: »
    I have found that you dont' need a macro lens for macro/closeup photography (even though I bought one).

    Compact cameras (is that a dirty word here?) can produce very good results

    taken with a compact

    taken with a bridge camera (I often recommend a bridge camera as a great 'getting into' photography camera; jack of all trades
    Its amazing, I have compacts and a bridge, but I never dust them off any more. DSLR fever maybe? :D

    The real problem for me the the lack of RAW. It makes a real difference in the final image.


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    K_user wrote: »
    Its amazing, I have compacts and a bridge, but I never dust them off any more. DSLR fever maybe? :D

    The real problem for me the the lack of RAW. It makes a real difference in the final image.

    I used to have a Panasonic bridge (FZ18 I think)
    Had a RAW output and a surprisingly good macro setting


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    This unit helps with focusing on Macro/closeup
    >
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    4 way Macro Shot Focusing Focus Rail by pixbyjohn, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    I bought a 105mm macro lens a couple of years ago, used it a handful of times and forgot about it ever since.:o

    Here's one of the pics I took with it..

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    I really must start using it again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭jdee99


    macro is great fun - some of the pics above are stunning

    Heres one of mine 6793181518_97c78f7f02.jpg


    I also use the 4-way macro rail well worth the money - the pic above is a series of photos taken with the rail and then laid on top of each other - took about an hour to photograph it though


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭mawk


    Nforce wrote: »
    I bought a 105mm macro lens a couple of years ago, used it a handful of times and forgot about it ever since.:o

    Here's one of the pics I took with it..

    4071F5E512334FDA8C2DDB9590D07576-800.jpg

    I really must start using it again.

    you can give it to me if you dont use it anymore ;-)

    I got a reversing ring a while back, like holding the lens backwards but way less hassle. bit awkward but some great results, on my mobile now but I'll try remember to link some later


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    pixbyjohn wrote: »
    This unit helps with focusing on Macro/closeup
    >
    7394331426_c72bcbafd1_z.jpg
    4 way Macro Shot Focusing Focus Rail by pixbyjohn, on Flickr
    Pretty :D

    I was thinking about one of those as I was rocking back and forth looking for the lens to lock onto something, anything!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    Nforce wrote: »
    I bought a 105mm macro lens a couple of years ago, used it a handful of times and forgot about it ever since.:o

    Here's one of the pics I took with it..

    4071F5E512334FDA8C2DDB9590D07576-800.jpg

    I really must start using it again.
    Very nice!

    Love the colours


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    jdee99 wrote: »
    macro is great fun - some of the pics above are stunning

    Heres one of mine 6793181518_97c78f7f02.jpg


    I also use the 4-way macro rail well worth the money - the pic above is a series of photos taken with the rail and then laid on top of each other - took about an hour to photograph it though
    Amazing stuff, the hour was worth it! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    I decided to run a "proper" indoor test today of the 70-300mm with a close up filter attached. Just to see what its capable of doing.

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    Over all its not great, the focus isn't where I think it should be, the stem. And the stem is slightly distracting in its fuzzy state.

    But its a start...


  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭jdee99


    K_User did you manually focus this or was it the camera? It looks as if the focus point is behind the stem to the left - or it could just be my eyes!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    jdee99 wrote: »
    K_User did you manually focus this or was it the camera? It looks as if the focus point is behind the stem to the left - or it could just be my eyes!
    Yeah, I know the focus is off, as I said it should be on the stem, but its not, so the whole thing looks kinda wonky.

    This was just a test sample. I needed to find the working distance when using the close up filter. As it turns out there is a very fine line between something being in focus and being completely blurred beyond recognition. The only way to figure it out is to slowly rock back and forth until something clicks. Then move the camera onto the tripod.

    I really posted this in response to penev10's question on using a diopter on a 300mm lens.
    penev10 wrote: »
    Glad it's not just me struggling with all things macro! some way better shots above than anything I'm getting though.

    I'm using a 70-300mm which has a macro setting between 200-300mm which doesn't leave much room for manoeuvre.


    Still doesn't feel like I'm getting close enough so have ordered some diopter filters (any use?) and an extension tube.
    I know that there is no real replacement for a Macro, hence the title of the tread. But I'm just trying something new out, to see if I enjoy it.


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