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Advice on Desktop

  • 15-01-2016 8:00pm
    #1
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭


    My son would like a better desktop for his birthday,cant afford a top end gaming machine, main use is internet,spotify,he makes videos and uploads to utube,would like to play games on it but has a xboxone,so no big deal if he cant,
    could you look at the one below and advice on spec, price, etc,,,.. thks

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262217894374?euid=85395115f33d47ebbc1f8232ad4e3920&cp=1


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  • #2
    Digital Solitude
    Registered Users Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    It's a pretty old machine, wouldn't play games or do much editing tbh

    What's the upper end of the budget?


  • #3
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    It's a pretty old machine, wouldn't play games or do much editing tbh

    What's the upper end of the budget?


    €200/€250


  • #4
    Digital Solitude
    Registered Users Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Is a self build off the cards? Just to confirm


  • #5
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    Is a self build off the cards? Just to confirm

    All options considered.


  • #6
    riclad
    Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    http://www.adverts.ie/desktops/hp-compac-6000-quad-core-6gb-ram/9631437

    this pc is much better,
    faster cpu,more ram,
    quad core =4cpu at least twice as fast as the pc in the link


    If it has a pci express slot ,it would be easy to put in a fast graphics card
    1-2gig video ram,100 euro approx on adverts.ie
    And its avaidable in ireland.
    use the intel graphics card for the moment .
    I think the xbox one has a youtube video upload app

    http://www.adverts.ie/graphics-cards/amd-ati-radeon-hd-5770-1gb-gddr5-pci-e-video-card/9465248


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  • #7
    maki
    Registered Users Posts: 772 ✭✭✭maki


    riclad wrote: »
    faster cpu,more ram,
    quad core =4cpu at least twice as fast as the pc in the link

    Terrible logic. You're comparing an partially unknown Athlon X2 vs a completely unknown "quad core processor", which could be anything. A quad core is not necessarily faster than a dual core, and in plenty of cases a dual core will completely wipe the floor with a quad core.

    Also, quad core != 4 cpus.
    Multi-threading and multi-processing are two completely different things.


  • #8
    mordeith
    Registered Users Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    My son would like a better desktop for his birthday,cant afford a top end gaming machine, main use is internet,spotify,he makes videos and uploads to utube,would like to play games on it but has a xboxone,so no big deal if he cant,
    could you look at the one below and advice on spec, price, etc,,,.. thks

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262217894374?euid=85395115f33d47ebbc1f8232ad4e3920&cp=1

    You mention your are looking for a better desktop. What are the specs of the one your son presently have? It might make more sense upgrading some components of that rather than a complete second hand machine (given your relatively low budget)


  • #9
    mordeith
    Registered Users Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    maki wrote: »
    A quad core is not necessarily faster than a dual core, and in plenty of cases a dual core will completely wipe the floor with a quad core.

    Exactly. Case in point http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X2-260


  • #10
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    mordeith wrote: »
    You mention your are looking for a better desktop. What are the specs of the one your son presently have? It might make more sense upgrading some components of that rather than a complete second hand machine (given your relatively low budget)

    Its very old,
    hp compag stingray
    motherboard ASUS P4SD-LA
    cpu 2.8 p4
    2 gb pc2100 memory
    integrated graphics
    windows xp


  • #11
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    So would the Hp g5200 on ebay be better with 1GB graphics card and 500 GB harddrive?


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  • #12
    mordeith
    Registered Users Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    So would the Hp be better with 1GB graphics card and 500 GB harddrive?

    That's pretty old in fairness. Also you shouldn't be using XP online anymore due to lack of MS support.

    This isn't a bad machine

    The integrated graphics are nothing to shout about but you could add a dedicated card at a later date. Again RAM can be added if necessary but 4GB will do your son's needs for his initial requirements. 4th gen i3 which is far superior to either of the previously linked machines.


  • #13
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    mordeith wrote: »
    That's pretty old in fairness. Also you shouldn't be using XP online anymore due to lack of MS support.

    This isn't a bad machine

    The integrated graphics are nothing to shout about but you could add a dedicated card at a later date. Again RAM can be added if necessary but 4GB will do your son's needs for his initial requirements. 4th gen i3 which is far superior to either of the previously linked machines.

    That one seems good but have to drive to Dublin to get it,looks like collection only.


  • #14
    mordeith
    Registered Users Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    That one seems good but have to drive to Dublin to get it,looks like collection only.

    What county are you based in?


  • #15
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    mordeith wrote: »
    What county are you based in?

    Wexford


  • #16
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    mordeith wrote: »
    That's pretty old in fairness. Also you shouldn't be using XP online anymore due to lack of MS support.

    This isn't a bad machine

    The integrated graphics are nothing to shout about but you could add a dedicated card at a later date. Again RAM can be added if necessary but 4GB will do your son's needs for his initial requirements. 4th gen i3 which is far superior to either of the previously linked machines.

    That's an unreal deal, latest generation i3 alone is worth about 120 of that price. The only problem there is that most dedicated cards will not fit, meaning the heatsinks will be blocked by how close the pci-e slot is to the power supply.

    Your best course of action is to buy something like a machine with a G630, 4GB of ram and a 500GB hard drive from Ebay - tons of old office stock with those specs at around €120-150 delivered.

    Down the line you can swap the G630 for an i5 for about €80, and add a dedicated card for about €100, which would enable it to play all the latest games just fine.

    Example here. €125 delivered to you door and extremely upgradable.

    Just an example, feel free to look around and come back. Ignore the previous PC's posted here (excluding mordeith's which is a stellar deal but limited in graphics ability)


  • #17
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Here's another example for €100 delivered.

    Both these machines are fully upgradable.

    Swap the G620 for an i5-2xx0 or 3xx0 for about €70.

    Add a GTX750 for €100.

    Total cost for a decent gaming PC - €270.

    Add more ram later when needed.

    edit: this one doesn't appear to have Win7 installed, the Dell does. So stick with that, maybe.

    Also - even without any upgrading the G630 is perfectly fine for normal day to day tasks and some games will run just fine.

    Black Ops 2, Minecraft, Battlefield 3, Bioshock Infinite, Dirt Rally and a few other titles of that ilk will work fine with it - the latest games like GTA V, Black Ops 3, Fallout 4 etc will not work.


  • #18
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    This is finishing soon dont know what it will go for, would this be same ?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Pro-3300-SFF-PC-Intel-G630-2-70GHz-4GB-Ram-500GB-HDD-Win-10-Pro-/131701860768?hash=item1eaa0ae9a0:g:G9oAAOSwGotWlmtP

    this one just sold

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131701845602?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&autorefresh=true


  • #19
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Yes it seems fine. It will take any low profile graphics card, unlike the Dell linked a few posts past it has ample space to accommodate gaming cards.


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