Killer Instinct Discussion Thread

I'd play it

Howeverm, I'd rather be run over then purchase an Xbone atm

UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »

Both games had 11 characters. KI2 dropped 4 original chars and added 4 new ones.

Like I said, I haven't played much of the second game (I had maybe two or three goes of it, then went back to the original). Still though, that's a cast of 15 then, and there's a chance of new characters being chucked in too.

Sairus wrote: »

So Double Helix cleared up a bit of the confusion around KI.

From SRK


So this is almost the perfect sort of FTP type thing (more than 1 character would be better, or a rotating character). You can buy the full game if you want, or you can get the free demo and buy individual pieces as you want them.

Except DoA5:Ultimate will give you 4 starter characters and Versus/Arcade/Training mode for free: http://teamninja-studio.com/doa5/ultimate/us/home.html#ftp

So anyway, enough bashing on the silliness game for a bit maybe? Actual discussion! :pac:

After watching some gameplay videos I actually don't hate how it looks to be playing. The visuals themselves are awful, but gameplay doesn't look terrible.

KI is a fairly different fighter in a lot of ways, so here's a primer. I was also talking to one of the Double Helix guys earlier about it and he mentioned some interesting stuff (He also told me it's completely not fun and I should stay away from it :pac: ):

Dashes are slower than walking. Backdashes have about 5f of non-throw invincibility. Saberwulf's forward dash passes through opponents.

Undizzy. A meter under your combo counter will fill up as you combo. Once it fills up, the next non-Super hit you land will cause the opponent to fall down.

Instinct. This works like X-Factor. You build up your Instinct Meter and can then press HP+HK to activate. You can deploy Instinct at any time you're not in the startup, block or whiff of any attack, or are being hit yourself. This means you can deploy it raw, or do an Instinct Cancel mid combo.

Instinct reduces the knockdown meter to 0 and gives character specific boosts:
Jago gets health regen and longer hitstun/blockstun ( this allows him to do infinite blockstrings with supers every other rep while gaining health back)
Sabrewulf gets 25% extra dmg and all attacks do chip.

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KI's got a pretty interesting and very specific combo system. The basic combo system runs like this:
Opener (any Special Move) -> Normal -> Linker (Special Move) -> Normal > Linker > etc until Knockdown Meter is almost full > Ender

An Ender is a specific special move each character has. The ender you actually do varies depending on what you did in your combo.

The Normals you can input are split into two types: Autodoubles and Manuals. You can choose any strength normal after a linker and it'll combo as either an AD or a Manual depending on the timing you input it with.

Autodouble: 2 hits, large window to break, adds lots of damage to your ender and lots of knockdown meter
Manual: basically unreadable for L or M, short window to break, doesn't add as much damage or knockdown meter

Combo Breakers: The opponent can break out of any combo during an Autodouble or a Manual by pressing a Kick+Punch of the same strength as the opponent at the same time. If you successfully break it blows the opponent back. If you guess the wrong strength you can't do another breaker for 3 seconds.

Ultra Combos: These are like Blazblue's Astral Finishes. You can only do them on the final round when the opponent is on low health and they just kill the opponent in a massive, scripted, unbreakable combo.
If you want to be really obnoxious you can do something like this: Ultra, Instinct cancel, full new combo plus 2 supers because the Ultra gives you meter, then another Ultra and juggles afterward including 2 more supers. You can basically combo the opponent for 30-60 seconds after they're dead.

No Mercy's, Humiliations, etc are not in the game.

Nice to see that they've still got the SF-style control system. They had different names on them way back when (the light was "quick", I believe) but the same gig really. The specials would also vary depending on the button's strength. Stronger the attack button, the further the charge move would travel, or the faster the fireball would be.

Also, dashes are slower than walking?

Needs more sparks.

2gen wrote: »

i wouldn't normally post videos from Max but this vid contains the highest level of the new KI i've seen so far. good stuff.

This game looks shakier than Vanilla SF4 :rolleyes:

deathrider wrote: »

I'd like to see someone really ricockulous like Fulgore or Spinal, but I'd imagine it'll be Chief Thunder, TJ. Combo, or Orchid.

Not sure what the new devs opinions are on Chief Thunder, Riptor and Cinder, since those three were dropped between KI and KI2.

Since this all happened before the days of the internet, I never really knew why.

I want to see Fulgore back. He was always my favourite thinly veiled Predator rip-off, and it was the sound of his fatality reverberating across the arcade that drew me to the machine.



Yeah!

deathrider wrote: »

I'd rather see Riptor and Cinder return than those boring caveman-style characters from the second game.

This x 1000.

The new characters in KI2 were dull as hell.

I'll watch that later when I get the chance. As fart as new stages go though, of it's not one where you can push your opponent off the edge during your Ultra then I really couldn't care what goes on behind the fights.

How can you look at that glacius model and say this game is good?!

Ramza wrote: »

How can you look at that glacius model and say this game is good?!

Sairus wrote: »

This. So much ****ing this.

Glacius looks god damn awesome in KI1+2. What the hell is this ****?

in fairness, you can't judge a game (especially a fighting game) on its looks alone. it would be unfair to bash SF4 due to the "chunky" character models since we all know the game may be the best made fighter in the last 10 years. i personally hate how the character models look in the game.
i guess i'm a part of the minority here but i do like the updated looks of the classic characters in the game so far. im not saying i prefer them over the old looks.

what i do like about this new design is the fact they made him bigger than the average character. this would mean hitboxes on him will be different unlike the classic games where all the fighters were the same size meaning you didnt have to adjust your combos on specific fighters (such as in SF4 and Marvel). i also like how he still has his classic moves such as the shoulder charge and the rising uppercut but now has new moves that would put him in the category of a zoning character. in the classic game everyone was a rush down character. if you tried to zone you would get a windkick to the face from full screen resulting in big damage.

im a fan of the KI 1 myself but i do appreciate what they are trying to do with the game. anyway, from reviews by people who played the game (not just Max alone) they seemed pretty excited from their time playing it. all we can do now is just wait and see how things turn out.

alright. i've never seen high level play before and also when i played the game i was like 9/10 so i didnt play it competitively. so i was just recalling my own memories of the game.

anyway, i don't feel its necessary to worry too much about the characters's looks since im sure they will do DLC alt costumes like how NRS did it for MK9 (all the ninjas getting their retro MK1/MK2 looks).

all i have to say is dont loose all hope until you try it out when the game is released... that is if you're willing to.