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The Dark Knight Rises - Pre-release Discussion [** NO SPOILERS PLEASE **]

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  • #1712
    Sad Professor
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,668 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Perhaps. But even if it isn't true, Nolan is going to have to establish most of it within the film anyway. Either he explains it all in dialogue (unlikely) or he does a flashback. We already know there's going to be flashbacks. It would make sense to get them out of the way in the prologue. That's what prologues are usually used for.

    All the talk of mirroring just screams Nolan imo. It's exactly the type of thing he would do. And it's probably the best way to really connect Bane to Batman.


  • #1713
    Handsome Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    It seems underwhelming, but if I was asked about the TDK prologue, I would have said underwhelming too. :)


  • #1714
    ADarkKnight88
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭ADarkKnight88


    Seems like a lot for 6 minutes really


  • #1715
    paddy kerins
    Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    ADarkKnight88 wrote: »
    Seems like a lot for 6 minutes really


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQvNu8LoTo0


  • #1716
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    id rather see batman get his back broken in the prologue. but my gut feeling thinks the bane back story will be the prologue.

    also i read this morning that christian bale said this will be his last performance as batman. gutted after hearing it i thought he was a fantastic batman and even better bruce wayne


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  • #1717
    Liamario
    Registered Users Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭Liamario


    I like that prologue and is considerably more plausible than batman getting his back broken. Batma. Getting his back broken would really have had to happen at the end of the TDK.
    On saying that, I'd live to see the breaking of the bat, but it would be purely wishful thinking. I am curious as to what Chris Nolan means when he says that batman is in a bad state?!


  • #1718
    paddy kerins
    Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    New trailer will be released around Christmas


  • #1719
    Sad Professor
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,668 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    The SHH user who originally posted the earlier prologue description has since received a more detailed one, but they are refusing to post it. However, they have pm'd it to a few people and apparently it's nothing like the previous description. According to this new one, the prologue consists of
    Bane hijacking a plane intercut with flashbacks of him climbing out of a well
    .


  • #1720
    jonnyfingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers


    ricero wrote: »
    also i read this morning that christian bale said this will be his last performance as batman. gutted after hearing it i thought he was a fantastic batman and even better bruce wayne

    I have mixed feelings about this. I think Bale is an excellent Batman but so far we've been treated to two excellent Batman films with him as the star. Hopefully the third and final one will be to the same standard.

    With that trilogy completed I'm happy enough for it to end there. Any more films and the standard would probably drop considerably. And the last thing I'd want to see is Bale as Batman in a film directed by someone other than Nolan.


  • #1721
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Gah, I give up on these supposed leaked prologue descriptions; no point, too many contradictions to guess which one is the realdeal (if any). Simply going to sit tight until the actual thing appears.


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  • #1722
    splashthecash
    Registered Users Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    When is MI4: Ghost Prototol out in IMAX?? Then finally we can put an end to this incessant pondering on this prologue...


  • #1723
    ronoc 1
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭ronoc 1


    theres an interesting article on cracked.com where the writer believes bruce wayne will die in the film.he explains his reasons by citing references from other nolan films.I think the writer is reading too much into it but its a good read all the same.


  • #1724
    caspa307
    Registered Users Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭caspa307


    ronoc 1 wrote: »
    theres an interesting article on cracked.com where the writer believes bruce wayne will die in the film.he explains his reasons by citing references from other nolan films.I think the writer is reading too much into it but its a good read all the same.


    Lol was just gonna link that http://www.cracked.com/blog/advanced-batman-theory-why-nolan-will-kill-bruce-wayne/


  • #1725
    Sad Professor
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    There's a lot of rubbish in that article, but he does make a few good points. We're all assuming that if the back-breaking happens it will happen early in the film and the remainder will focus on Batman "rising" again", hence the title. But I guess it's also possible the film will end with Batman getting his back broken and a new Dark Knight rising in his place, bringing the story full circle.

    So it's not beyond the realm of possibility that Nolan is being a bit shifty with the "rises" in the title and this film is actually about the fall of Batman and the beginning of a new dark knight. But if that is the case, I seriously doubt JGL is it. Selina/Catwoman seems a more likely candidate given that her backstory mirrors Bruce's to a large degree. The problem with this is that it doesn't fit with the Gordon's comments in the trailers. But it's possible Batman has actually been MIA for those 8 years and that's what Gordon is referring to.


  • #1726
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,459 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    But I guess it's also possible the film will end with Batman getting his back broken and a new Dark Knight rising in his place, bringing the story full circle.


    While the studio would love it, I can't see Nolan finishing with a new Batman taking over from Wayne. It undermines Bruce's arc and it would be incredibly difficult to pull off without coming across as a cop out. I'd imagine Nolan wants a definitive end to this as well in order to cement his ownership of these movies and wouldn't want to make things too easy for WB to possibly taint his vision. Having a new Bats at the end of TDKR is essentially giving a blessing to future non Nolan movies to operate in his Gotham. Wouldn't surprise me if WB tried to go down on some sort of John-Paul Valley route at some stage.


  • #1727
    Sad Professor
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    Well, I said a new "dark knight", not a new Batman. I don't really like this idea either as I think Batman's presence has made matters worse. As we saw in TDK, people like the Joker feed off him. Nevertheless, the end of TDK seemed to suggest that Gotham does need someone like him.


  • #1728
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    i wonder if the joker will be mentioned in the scheme of things. i think a decent reference should be given.

    also heard the new rumored prologue has a scene which is reminiscent of a stunning scene in inception


  • #1729
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,001 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    ricero wrote: »
    also i read this morning that christian bale said this will be his last performance as batman. gutted after hearing it i thought he was a fantastic batman and even better bruce wayne

    That's been known ffor a while, last Bale batman, last Nolan Batman


  • #1730
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Mellor wrote: »
    That's been known ffor a while, last Bale batman, last Nolan Batman

    Thats the thing. Will it be the last for both? ;) You know Hollywood.
    I mean there are already talks of a Batman reboot in 2015. Who is to say either one dont get offered mental amount of money to change their minds.


  • #1731
    Otacon
    Registered Users Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    I mean there are already talks of a Batman reboot in 2015.

    I am fairly certain that DC and Warner want the reboot to lead into a possible Justice League film, in which case, the new version of Batman will be more like the comic and need to co-exist in a world with Superman. That is why I don't think they will use Nolan's universe.

    If one were to come back, it would be Nolan, as he is already involved in the new Superman film. But, I think he would have a similar role on the Batman reboot [producer].


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  • #1732
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,126 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Otacon wrote: »
    I am fairly certain that DC and Warner want the reboot to lead into a possible Justice League film, in which case, the new version of Batman will be more like the comic and need to co-exist in a world with Superman. That is why I don't think they will use Nolan's universe.

    If one were to come back, it would be Nolan, as he is already involved in the new Superman film. But, I think he would have a similar role on the Batman reboot [producer].

    I would be delighted if this happened with Nolan as producer. From the sound of Snyder's Superman so far it will be more set in the DC universe. Nolan's Batman trilogy will be thing on its own which can be enjoyed again and again, much better than someone just doing an inferior sequel, I'm fairly excited that a reboot could lead to seeing the DC universe on the big screen properly.


  • #1733
    Handsome Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    ricero wrote: »
    i wonder if the joker will be mentioned in the scheme of things. i think a decent reference should be given.

    Due to the 8 year gap I think there's a fair of chance of his name being mentioned as being a constant pain in the hole for Bruce.
    also heard the new rumored prologue has a scene which is reminiscent of a stunning scene in inception

    Yup, it involves
    Bane and a plane
    apparently.


  • #1734
    me-skywalker
    Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    Is there going to be a 7min trailer being released in January?


  • #1735
    phil1nj
    Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭phil1nj


    Otacon wrote: »
    I am fairly certain that DC and Warner want the reboot to lead into a possible Justice League film, in which case, the new version of Batman will be more like the comic and need to co-exist in a world with Superman. That is why I don't think they will use Nolan's universe.
    QUOTE]

    The Batman-Superman team up project was mentioned for years in the Hollywood Land before stalling (there is even a visual reference in I am Legend on one of the billboards in the deserted New York scenes).

    The much oft mentioned reboot will be done in an attempt to get the DC Universe's main characters together in one movie (IMHO). The Marvel guys have already managed to do this with the upcoming "Avengers" movie. Of course this plan does rely on "The Man Of Steel" movie being a success. It also gives Warners/DC a chance to finally get other major characters up on the big screen (The Flash, Wonder Woman etc).

    You also have to wonder of the general public will react positively to a rebooted Batman so soon after Nolan's trilogy wraps? The upcoming Spider-Man reboot will test the waters as it looks like this going back over ground already covered in Sam Raimi's three movies (origin story, high school setting and so on). If the Batman story is rebooted,one thing is certain, it will be a very different animal to what we have seen so far (and are yet to see in the DKR movie).


  • #1736
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,126 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    phil1nj wrote: »

    The Batman-Superman team up project was mentioned for years in the Hollywood Land before stalling (there is even a visual reference in I am Legend on one of the billboards in the deserted New York scenes).

    The much oft mentioned reboot will be done in an attempt to get the DC Universe's main characters together in one movie (IMHO). The Marvel guys have already managed to do this with the upcoming "Avengers" movie. Of course this plan does rely on "The Man Of Steel" movie being a success. It also gives Warners/DC a chance to finally get other major characters up on the big screen (The Flash, Wonder Woman etc).

    You also have to wonder of the general public will react positively to a rebooted Batman so soon after Nolan's trilogy wraps? The upcoming Spider-Man reboot will test the waters as it looks like this going back over ground already covered in Sam Raimi's three movies (origin story, high school setting and so on). If the Batman story is rebooted,one thing is certain, it will be a very different animal to what we have seen so far (and are yet to see in the DKR movie).

    Wolfgang Peterson had actually started pre-production work on that Superman/Batman movie iirc.

    If they reboot there's no ned to go over the origins again, but then a logical human being would have thought that would be the case with Man of Steel and Amazing Spider-Man also :mad:


  • #1737
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Warning! Spoiler revealed from the Empire Magazine DKR article
    The Movie is set 8 years after the dark knight

    Interesting ..


  • #1738
    phil1nj
    Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭phil1nj


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    Warning! Spoiler revealed from the Empire Magazine DKR article
    The Movie is set 8 years after the dark knight

    Interesting ..

    Mentioned numerous times already. :D


  • #1739
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    phil1nj wrote: »
    Mentioned numerous times already. :D

    whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :(
    I wanted my moment :pac:


  • #1740
    Giruilla
    Registered Users Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Giruilla


    If the full script to TDKR was posted online now, would you read it?


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  • #1741
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Nope, absolutely not. I feel bad enough looking at the set photos, seeing some of the epic spectacle a little tarnished by being spoiled - there's no way I'd completely nuke the experience by reading a script.


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