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Right to privacy when committing a sex act?

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  • 03-10-2010 11:12pm
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    Mr. Loverman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭


    Time for a strange one!

    Does someone have the right to privacy when committing a sex act? For example, the following is a post from boards.ie:

    Had a funny one once in the toilets of a well known nightclub in Templebar (I was a bouncer there) - I was in the cubicle getting a blow-job from some ol' slapper - I called the lads over the radio and gave them all a free look - now that was hilarious at the time, but I couldn't shoot my load with an audience and broke my heart laughing, poor yoke never knew what the joke was about.

    To me this is quite sickening and degrading, but am I right in thinking because the act took place in a public place the girl has no rights?


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    Improbable
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Improbable


    Mr. Loverman wrote: »
    Time for a strange one!

    Does someone have the right to privacy when committing a sex act? For example, the following is a post from boards.ie:

    Had a funny one once in the toilets of a well known nightclub in Templebar (I was a bouncer there) - I was in the cubicle getting a blow-job from some ol' slapper - I called the lads over the radio and gave them all a free look - now that was hilarious at the time, but I couldn't shoot my load with an audience and broke my heart laughing, poor yoke never knew what the joke was about.

    To me this is quite sickening and degrading, but am I right in thinking because the act took place in a public place the girl has no rights?

    That's correct AFAIK.


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    Delancey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    That is truly a warm and beautiful story......:D


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    longhalloween
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    Strange that the OP is called Mr. Loverman himself! ;)

    But if you're a girl or guy having sex in a public place you shouldnt expect any rights to privacy. Isnt that common sense?


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    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Considering you can get fined for urinating in public, I'd say same rules apply

    No, you have no right to privacy


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    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    delancey42 wrote: »
    That is truly a warm and beautiful story......:D

    +1 Truly


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    doing
    Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭doing


    Well do you have a right to privacy using a public toilet for it's intended use then? Could they broadcast what people are doing in the public toilets on the big screen in Croke Park road to entertain the audience at half time?


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    Sardonicat
    Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    What about your right not to be filmed and broadcasted performing a sex act without your consent?


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    GerardKeating
    Registered Users Posts: 7,527 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    What about your right not to be filmed and broadcasted performing a sex act without your consent?

    No such right, anything you do in a public place is public.


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    PCPhoto
    Registered Users Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    No such right, anything you do in a public place is public.

    so you are saying that it would be legal for them to show the toilets on the big screens in croke park or the AVIVA ?

    as far as I understand it - if you are using it for going to the toilet then its expected that you get privacy


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    Reloc8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    If you are in a public space, your right to privacy is modified by an expectation that actions by way which are of a public character may be brought to others attention, either by CCTV or otherwise.

    However, urinating in a public toilet is not an act of a public character.

    Actually, neither is having sex in the cubicle of a public toilet.

    Shagging on the village green of course is.

    In the example given by the OP, I consider the girl involved to have a reasonable expectation of her privacy right not being violated by the beneficiary under the contract even if they came to no explicit agreement as to the terms on which third parties could derive a benefit from their transaction. This was breached by the beneficiary.


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    NoQuarter
    Registered Users Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    What about in this poor fellas situation??

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056047223

    He never really got any legal help on the matter...

    so are pictures you take in private that are intended for private use subject to any privacy rights? can the person who stole his pictures be subject to prosecution?


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    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Reloc8 wrote: »
    If you are in a public space, your right to privacy is modified by an expectation that actions by way which are of a public character may be brought to others attention, either by CCTV or otherwise.

    However, urinating in a public toilet is not an act of a public character.

    Actually, neither is having sex in the cubicle of a public toilet.

    Shagging on the village green of course is.

    In the example given by the OP, I consider the girl involved to have a reasonable expectation of her privacy right not being violated by the beneficiary under the contract even if they came to no explicit agreement as to the terms on which third parties could derive a benefit from their transaction. This was breached by the beneficiary.

    I didn't think a contract involving sex was valid.


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    Mr. Loverman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    Thanks for the replies everyone.
    Reloc8 wrote: »
    In the example given by the OP, I consider the girl involved to have a reasonable expectation of her privacy right not being violated by the beneficiary under the contract even if they came to no explicit agreement as to the terms on which third parties could derive a benefit from their transaction. This was breached by the beneficiary.

    I would hope this would be the case. I would imagine what she experienced (if she knew what happened) could be a lot more traumatic than say someone pickpocketing her.

    Btw, the person who wrote that post has obviously seen this thread because they've gone and deleted what they wrote. But good old google cache to the rescue: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lfLqLk5iFL4J:www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php%3Ft%3D2055233712+http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php%3Ft%3D2055233712&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk (Scroll down to post 8 by Makikomi).


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    brian__foley
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    GerardKeating wrote: »
    No such right, anything you do in a public place is public.

    That's simply not correct. Lots of law to the contrary.


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    #16
    Mr. Loverman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    brian__foley wrote: »
    That's simply not correct. Lots of law to the contrary.

    Any laws for this particular situation?


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    Reloc8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    k_mac wrote: »
    I didn't think a contract involving sex was valid.

    A contract to perform an illegal act is indeed void.

    I was having a bit of a legalistic giggle in lamping a load of contract speak on a fact scenario involving a dirtbird bouncer roaring at his mates while he got a blow-job in the jacks.


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    Reloc8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    GerardKeating wrote: »
    No such right, anything you do in a public place is public.

    Nah.

    It comes down, more or less, to whether you have a legitimate/reasonable expectation of privacy.

    That's why you see people's face's blurred on telly when they are shown walking down the road and what not.

    Or do they just look like that :eek:


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