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Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v2.0

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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Mr Browne was right when he said that some viewers might be unhappy with blocking him out, show the bistards face. grrrr


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    He went to college to learn about Sociology, aha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    Hilarious


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,118 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Should we take up a collection for the poor lad ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    So far this guy has had methodone programmes, college programmes, psychologists all freeeeeeeeeeeee, crime pays its fact


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    He said that his employer fired him exclusively because they found out about his past. Is it just me or was his physiological response to the "And were you still on drugs" question something that would have sent off red flags on a polygraph?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    OK back to studio, first question from VB to FG member of the panel - ok, so what are FG gonna do about it?

    I've a feeling I'll be switching off v soon


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,118 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    This lad is on a mission of some sort. He has Vinnie twisted around his little finger. Nothing was his fault and he got no help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    Well, all of it is his own fault so far...

    His own fault he was beaten as a child ? I know you'll whinge and moan about anything Vincent has on the show but thats a bit much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    MungBean wrote: »
    His own fault he was beaten as a child ? I know you'll whinge and moan about anything Vincent has on the show but thats a bit much.

    If Vincent met a lad like this across his sitting room at 4am in the morning, he would change his tune..

    Fair enough if he's "paid off his debt to society" as it's called, even though his victims are still traumatised after his armed assaults... But dont come on the show looking for sympathy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    And the crime victims helpline comes up ! HA !!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,799 ✭✭✭take everything


    In fairness i think he is genuine enough.

    Edit: But i think he's more concerned about what happened to him than what he has done to others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    If Vincent met a lad like this across his sitting room at 4am in the morning, he would change his tune..

    Fair enough if he's "paid off his debt to society" as it's called, even though his victims are still traumatised after his armed assaults... But dont come on the show looking for sympathy.

    I dont care whether he's looking for or getting sympathy but you cant ignore the factors that led to his living that kind of life. These people are not just born as scumbags they grow up in an environment that makes them scumbags.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,668 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Seems genuine, sort of - but am I the only one thinking he's spouting lines he's learned in counselling along the way?

    ETA - and who's chattering in the background?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    MungBean wrote: »
    His own fault he was beaten as a child ? I know you'll whinge and moan about anything Vincent has on the show but thats a bit much.

    He was probably crying too much


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,118 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    MungBean wrote: »
    I dont care whether he's looking for or getting sympathy but you cant ignore the factors that led to his living that kind of life. These people are not just born as scumbags they grow up in an environment that makes them scumbags.

    That will be of great benefit to the two people he claims to have left on life support.


  • Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭Janedoe10


    Guy knows it is over . Is his victims meant to forget ...? Isn't the world a better place . What a load of clap trap ....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    That will be of great benefit to the two people he claims to have left on life support.

    So label him scum and not bother trying to understand why he is that way ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    MungBean wrote: »
    I dont care whether he's looking for or getting sympathy but you cant ignore the factors that led to his living that kind of life. These people are not just born as scumbags they grow up in an environment that makes them scumbags.


    Bullsh1te - his life is repeated in every part of Ireland and not everyone that had no money turned out to be a druggie and a criminal, thousands of people grew up in families that had nothing but didn't go on to be criminals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    MungBean wrote: »
    So label him scum and not bother trying to understand why he is that way ?

    No matter how bad his life was, he has no right to put somebody else on a life support machine or to put a gun in somebody's face.... Sure there were contributory factors, but Vincent seem adamant to blame everything on "society" because it suits his own agenda.

    Vincent gives no weight at all to the freewill these people have to make right or wrong decisions, and that they choose to use their freewill to inflict huge damage on to others..


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,118 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    MungBean wrote: »
    So label him scum and not bother trying to understand why he is that way ?

    See post 3979.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    vicwatson wrote: »
    B*ll**** - his life is repeated in every part of Ireland and not everyone that had no money turned out to be a druggie and a criminal, thousands of people grew up in families that had nothing but didn't go on to be criminals.

    Not everyone but the overwhelming majority of "druggie criminals" come from those backgrounds. Its common sense that if you grow up in that environment exposed to crime, drug abuse and violence theres a high likelihood you will end up living that life for long after you childhood.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Christ they've managed to find a woman more aggressive than Clare Daly. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    No matter how bad his life was, he has no right to put somebody else on a life support machine or to put a gun in somebody's face.... Sure there were contributory factors, but Vincent seem adamant to blame everything on "society" because it suits his own agenda.

    Vincent gives no weight at all to the freewill these people have to make right or wrong decisions, and that they choose to use their freewill to inflict huge damage on to others..

    I'm not saying he has and Vincent isnt blaming "society" because it suits his agenda he's questioning how this problem can be addressed.

    Would you rather sweep it all under the rug and just wait until some other junkie puts someone else on a life support ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Red21


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Bullsh1te - his life is repeated in every part of Ireland and not everyone that had no money turned out to be a druggie and a criminal, thousands of people grew up in families that had nothing but didn't go on to be criminals.
    How many people do know with loving parents, who ended up in prison?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    MungBean wrote: »
    Not everyone but the overwhelming majority of "druggie criminals" come from those backgrounds. Its common sense that if you grow up in that environment exposed to crime, drug abuse and violence theres a high likelihood you will end up living that life for long after you childhood.


    You chose your own course in life, I repeat - the far majority of people who grow up in tough circumstances go on to lead law abiding lives, just because you have a poor/broken/bad background it doesn't mean you will automatically be a criminal and whatismore is that it's not an excuse to blame your background on being a criminal. Criminality is a life choice it seems. Take responsibility.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    See how the Travellers would feel if we DID put the bondholders money in to their haltings sites, and then they have no social welfare and child benefit next month when the Troika pulls the plug on our bailout money.

    I have a funny feeling that Vincent aint gonna like what he hears on the Twitter machine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    vicwatson wrote: »
    You chose your own course in life, I repeat - the far majority of people who grow up in tough circumstances go on to lead law abiding lives, just because you have a poor/broken/bad background it doesn't mean you will automatically be a criminal and whatismore is that it's not an excuse to blame your background on being a criminal. Criminality is a life choice it seems. Take responsibility.

    So you think background has nothing to do with it ? Is there the same percentage of people from wealthy backgrounds living this type of life ? Of course not, because the reasons these people live this lifestyle is because they are exposed to violence, drugs and crime throughout their lives, they dont hop on a fcukin bus to dublin dreaming of being a junkie scumbag.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,858 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    See how the Travellers would feel if we DID put the bondholders money in to their haltings sites, and then they have no social welfare and child benefit next month when the Troika pulls the plug on our bailout money.

    I have a funny feeling that Vincent aint gonna like what he hears on the Twitter machine.

    Jaysus change the record.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,668 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    See how the Travellers would feel if we DID put the bondholders money in to their haltings sites, and then they have no social welfare and child benefit next month when the Troika pulls the plug on our bailout money.

    I have a funny feeling that Vincent aint gonna like what he hears on the Twitter machine.

    No Twitter machine tonight.... or texts....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    So you think background has nothing to do with it ?

    Don't recall saying that. Perhaps you can remind?

    The point is is that if 100 people come from a "disadvantaged" background, perhaps 5 of them will turn into druggie scumbag criminals, the other 95% will lead a law abiding life, but 100% are from the disadvantaged background, ergo, the far majority of people that come from a disadvantaged background will be law abiding citizens. Crime is a lifestyle choice.


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