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If you voted for SF, I ask you why ?

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  • #32
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    The Brigadier wrote: »
    To be honest I find your constant sniping about my lack of entitlement to call myself Irish is offensive. Just because I don't support the shinners doesn't invalidate my nationality.

    90% of Ireland rejected Sinn Fein - does that make them English as well?

    where exactly did i say you were not entitled to be Irish ? your bit confused brigadier in many ways i think


  • #33
    Tazz T
    Registered Users Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Because FG isn't going to be more of the same. It's going to be worse. And all you'll hear is: 'Well, this is what FF left us.'

    People will be kicking themselves for voting FG in a year's time.

    Because I don't want to be robbed by a bank again. I want the government to start robbing the banks for us.

    Because SF successfully took part in one of the most difficult negotiations in recent history - bringing about peace in the north. That qualifies them to take on the EU in my book. FG couldn't negotiate where to go for a night out and will come back from Europe with the tail between their legs, whimpering that we did the best we could but we couldn't secure anything. Unfortunately we had to promise to up the corporation tax rate too.

    I'm sick of people going on about SF were born from a violent party. Ireland was born from struggle and violence. When you are repressed by your government (or an occupying government as it was in the north) violence is the final answer. Look at the middle east. Would you vote for the new parties of freedom in those countries that used violence to get rid of the old government?


  • #34
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    danger man wrote: »
    im from the north mate,the british army ruled by english kings and queens took this island

    There hasn't been an English King or Queen since 1566. Britain has been ruled by the British parliament since 1688.

    Let's not let facts get in the way of a bit of bigotry though.


  • #35
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    danbohan wrote: »
    interesting how the english are trying to place their murderous history on others, .

    So who were you referring to here?


  • #36
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    The Brigadier wrote: »
    So who were you referring to here?



    The English (from Old English: Englisc) are a nation and ethnic group native to England, who speak English. The English identity is of early mediaeval origin, when they were known in Old English as the Anglecynn. England is now a country of the United Kingdom, and the majority of English people in England are British Citizens.


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  • #37
    Daroxtar
    Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    ^And this is why some people vote Sinn Féin


  • #38
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    i love how the revisonist is throwing the word bigotry about while defending past English ruled british governemts...


    Lots of lol's.


  • #39
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    danbohan wrote: »
    The English (from Old English: Englisc) are a nation and ethnic group native to England, who speak English. The English identity is of early mediaeval origin, when they were known in Old English as the Anglecynn. England is now a country of the United Kingdom, and the majority of English people in England are British Citizens.

    Typical Shinner - refusing to answer a direct question.

    So which English person or people are "trying to place their murderous history on others" on this thread?


  • #40
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    Seaneh wrote: »
    i love how the revisonist is throwing the word bigotry about while defending past English ruled british governemts...


    Lots of lol's.

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......


  • #41
    Mister men
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    Proud SF voter here. I voted for them because i believe they are the only party who actually know what they are doing economics wise, never thought i'd say that 10 years ago but i don't care about their history only my countries future.


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  • #42
    Mister men
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    Tazz T wrote: »
    Because FG isn't going to be more of the same. It's going to be worse. And all you'll hear is: 'Well, this is what FF left us.'

    People will be kicking themselves for voting FG in a year's time.

    Because I don't want to be robbed by a bank again. I want the government to start robbing the banks for us.

    Because SF successfully took part in one of the most difficult negotiations in recent history - bringing about peace in the north. That qualifies them to take on the EU in my book. FG couldn't negotiate where to go for a night out and will come back from Europe with the tail between their legs, whimpering that we did the best we could but we couldn't secure anything. Unfortunately we had to promise to up the corporation tax rate too.

    I'm sick of people going on about SF were born from a violent party. Ireland was born from struggle and violence. When you are repressed by your government (or an occupying government as it was in the north) violence is the final answer. Look at the middle east. Would you vote for the new parties of freedom in those countries that used violence to get rid of the old government?

    FG won't last the year with their policies. We will be back voting by years end mark my words.


  • #43
    Permabear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • #44
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    The Brigadier wrote: »
    Typical Shinner - refusing to answer a direct question.

    So which English person or people are "trying to place their murderous history on others" on this thread?

    if it walks like a duck , quacks like a duck , swims like a duck , its a duck . your Irish , so we cant be referring to you , can we ?


  • #45
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    danbohan wrote: »
    if it walks like a duck , quacks like a duck , swims like a duck , its a duck . your Irish , so we cant be referring to you , can we ?

    3rd time - WHO were you referring to on this thread?


  • #46
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Well there is a really simple formula that proves the parties who support the IMF/EU bail out are delusional!


  • #47
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    possibly , but then their are a lot of well respected economists whos proposals are not a million miles from sinn feins , but then they dont have a unionest/anti sinn fein agenda of some posters do they ?


  • #48
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    danbohan wrote: »
    possibly , but then their are a lot of well respected economists whos proposals are not a million miles from sinn feins , but then they dont have a unionest/anti sinn fein agenda of some posters do they ?

    Anti Sinn Fein does not mean Unionist. You still haven't answered my question.


  • #49
    ChocolateSauce
    Registered Users Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭ChocolateSauce


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    If that is the case I'd be interested to see it. Their policies vis a vis taxes and spending resemble those of successful left wing parties on the continent.

    I mean you might not like or agree with them, but refute? That's quite a statement. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'd certainly like to be convinced, because at first glance your statement doesn't come close.


  • #50
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    The Brigadier wrote: »
    Anti Sinn Fein does not mean Unionist. You still haven't answered my question.

    not always brigadier , but in some cases it does ,. i have , you really are confused , are you irish or not , if your irish i was not referring to you , if your english i was , make up your mind which you are


  • #51
    danger man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭danger man


    The Brigadier wrote: »
    There hasn't been an English King or Queen since 1566. Britain has been ruled by the British parliament since 1688.

    Let's not let facts get in the way of a bit of bigotry though.

    the queen and the one before her step in and out when they want,how do you think the british army got the go ahead into iraq after a million people marched in london to say no.she suspended the canadian parliament not to long ago and as far as i know she can do the same in australia.she bypassed parliament to give her army thegreeen light for iraq.royal decree keeps coming in to my head but its not that. i know thats not an answer but iv child under 1 arm and a bottle of milk under the other. give me an hour iv a book here some where that its in aswell as looking it up on the web.
    sorry


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  • #52
    Permabear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • #53
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    danbohan wrote: »
    not always brigadier , but in some cases it does ,. i have , you really are confused , are you irish or not , if your irish i was not referring to you , if your english i was , make up your mind which you are

    I'm not confused. You just seem to be able to be unable to answer a direct question.

    Who were you referring to?


  • #54
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    danger man wrote: »
    the queen and the one before her step in and out when they want,how do you think the british army got the go ahead into iraq after a million people marched in london to say no.she suspended the canadian parliament not to long ago and as far as i know she can do the same in australia.she bypassed parliament to give her army thegreeen light for iraq.royal decree keeps coming in to my head but its not that. i know thats not an answer but iv child under 1 arm and a bottle of milk under the other. give me an hour iv a book here some where that its in aswell as looking it up on the web.
    sorry

    The Queen has no power. I think you need to do some reading up before you embarass yourself.


  • #55
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    i dont for one minute believe that sinn fein think so either no matter what they say , they would not be first party to spout nonsense from safely of opposition . anyway we wont be finding out any time soon , good luck to fine gael/labour they have a poisoned chalice in hand me thinks


  • #56
    soucha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭soucha


    I have live in leitrim for eighteen years, and during that time have run into some serious probs. Not knowing any of the local candidates when i arrived, i read their blurb, then contacted them for help. Most of them simply didn reply, the odd couple that made contact went off promising they would help, i never saw any of them again until there was a local election. One man listened, advised, and continued to arrive if called, and work for me in between. He solved all my problems. That man is Michael Colreavy, sf candidate in North Leitrim/sligo. Hopefully he is now TD for same area. Then when i read sf manifesto, and having attended some meetings and met the candidates, there was no contest, the shower of fools that helped drop ireland into this recession, making all those stupid decisions that bankrupted the nation, but, they didnt ask us to help/advise/partake in any of that, leitrims share in the "celtic tiger" was zero. but now, oh yes, we are all being told we need to help, tighten those belts, just like haughy said thirty years ago. All the least able and vulnerable are being penalised, how is it when the rich had all that money and blew it, the poor are now having to pay it back? SF will reverse that as soon as they have the power.


  • #57
    breadandjam
    Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭breadandjam


    Because they gave the easy answer to the big question:
    Q. Who should pay for the mess we are in?

    A. Someone else

    Isn't this the answer Fianna Fail gave the bankers?

    I voted SF because I wanted to see a genuine left wing party in opposition


  • #58
    Eliot Rosewater
    Registered Users Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Eliot Rosewater


    Thread locked as it's full of abusive and substandard posting, and because the OP has withdrawn the question. It simply baffles me how posters can't discuss Sinn Fein without getting abusive. The few people who actually try to engage are appreciated.

    Troublesome posts and posters will be infracted and/or banned.

    /mod.


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