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TOR Entry and Exit nodes

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  • #32
    Rucking_Fetard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Rucking_Fetard


    Tor network doubles in size every 2-2.5 years

    Tor's total network bandwidth doubles at a darn impressive 13-14 months! Moore's Law, doubling every 18 months, is downright torpid by comparison.

    relays’ mean bandwidth doubles about every two years.

    Tor growth rates

    Tor Data gets big Data'd.


    Lots of Data out there needs that done to it.

    And ya could put it all on one of these nice shiny new CDs (1000TB on a CD!)

    Facebooks being buying up Blu-Rays/waiting on Sony/Panasonic to develop 300GB Discs (coming next year) for their new 80% more effecient Data Farms and along comes this.

    Edit: HaHa

    Ninja Edit 2: All the films ya could put on them....Piracy....Movie Industry would want to block them.


  • #33
    Rucking_Fetard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Rucking_Fetard


    User Error Is the Primary Weak Point In Tor


  • #34
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,834 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    User error is the weak point of everything.

    Life ain't always empty.



  • #35
    Recondite49
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Recondite49


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    User error is the weak point of everything.

    You said it chief, we all remember how Dread Pirate Roberts was nabbed ; used a US based VPN who were promptly subpoenaed - honestly who is that stupid?!


  • #36
    Rucking_Fetard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Rucking_Fetard


    Recondite49 wrote: »
    You said it chief, we all remember how Dread Pirate Roberts was nabbed ; used a US based VPN who were promptly subpoenaed - honestly who is that stupid?!
    Hmm, I don't think it was ever that Recon, for the last few months the Authoritys have been saying it was a badly configured CAPTCHA set up by Dread himself that leaked Silk Roads IP address, but the latest is that's bull.

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/the-he-said-she-said-of-how-the-fbi-found-silk-roads-servers/

    So it's back to an unknown at the minute.


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  • #37
    Recondite49
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Recondite49


    Rucking_Fetard wrote: »
    Hmm, I don't think it was ever that Recon, for the last few months the Authoritys have been saying it was a badly configured CAPTCHA set up by Dread himself that leaked Silk Roads IP address, but the latest is that's bull.

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/the-he-said-she-said-of-how-the-fbi-found-silk-roads-servers/

    So it's back to an unknown at the minute.

    Hi RF,

    I only know what I read in the news, found this article on CNN :

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/04/world/americas/silk-road-ross-ulbricht/

    It does make mention of the VPN but doesn't really specify how this was used to nab him. It seems he did have the sense at least to use an internet cafe.


  • #38
    Rucking_Fetard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Rucking_Fetard


    With This Tiny Box, You Can Anonymize Everything You Do Online


  • #39
    Recondite49
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Recondite49


    Rucking_Fetard wrote: »
    With This Tiny Box, You Can Anonymize Everything You Do Online

    Looks ideal! I think I'll make a donation. My only worry is that I like to use obfsproxy bridges to hide the fact I'm using tor in the first place. You wonder if this'll be an option here.


  • #40
    hooplah
    Registered Users Posts: 570 ✭✭✭hooplah


    looks like the anonabox might be a bit of a con - using openwrt firmware and existing Chinese made router.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/2j9caq/anonabox_tor_router_box_is_false_representation

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-2014-300Mbps-WT3020A-Multiprotocol-Portable-Mini-WIFI-Router-with-USB-data-line-Wireless-Router-wi/1691403728.html


  • #41
    Rucking_Fetard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Rucking_Fetard


    Tor Browser 4.0 is released


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  • #42
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    Rucking_Fetard wrote: »
    Tor Browser 4.0 is released

    Would you care to give a dummies guide to the TOR browser? Does it really help for the average browser to keep everything out of reach? Does the blocking of Flash and RealPlayer block much useful interaction?


  • #43
    Kinet1c
    Closed Accounts Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Kinet1c


    RainyDay wrote: »
    Would you care to give a dummies guide to the TOR browser? Does it really help for the average browser to keep everything out of reach? Does the blocking of Flash and RealPlayer block much useful interaction?

    I used it for the first time today, seems pretty clever in terms of masking your IP. Go to google.ie on your existing browser and type "my ip" and it'll show your IP from your home. Do the same within your tor browser and you'll see that it's completely different. Even the automatically added plugins like noscript and httpseverywhere would be useful outside of a tor browser. The video linked to earlier in the thread is about an hour long but inside the first few minutes tor is explained and should clear up any questions you have about it.


  • #44
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    Kinet1c wrote: »
    I used it for the first time today, seems pretty clever in terms of masking your IP. Go to google.ie on your existing browser and type "my ip" and it'll show your IP from your home. Do the same within your tor browser and you'll see that it's completely different. Even the automatically added plugins like noscript and httpseverywhere would be useful outside of a tor browser. The video linked to earlier in the thread is about an hour long but inside the first few minutes tor is explained and should clear up any questions you have about it.

    Thanks, I watched the video. It explained what's going on under the hood, but didn't tell me much about the end user experience. I used SRWARE Iron browser in the past, having got recommendations about security, but found just too many glitches with fairly common sites for it to be usable. I'd love to hear other's experiences, about how it works for day to day browsing.


  • #45
    Rucking_Fetard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Rucking_Fetard


    Researcher Finds Tor Exit Node Adding Malware to Binaries


  • #46
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,834 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    'Downloading Binaries From Random Unsecured Websites Still A Bad Idea'

    Life ain't always empty.



  • #47
    Recondite49
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Recondite49


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    'Downloading Binaries From Random Unsecured Websites Still A Bad Idea'

    You said it bro, I wouldn't mind but so many customers then call Tech Support and blame the computer...!

    The way I explain to people to call in is as follows:

    " Let me put it this way. I don't drive. I took some driving lessons when I was younger but wasn't very good at it and never tried again. I could even get behind the wheel of a Ferrari or even a Formula 1 racing car and the most likely thing that would happen is that I'd crash it into a wall.

    But I couldn't blame THE CAR for the fact I don't know how to use it properly."

    :-D


  • #48
    bonzodog2
    Registered Users Posts: 6,208 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    RainyDay wrote: »
    Thanks, I watched the video. It explained what's going on under the hood, but didn't tell me much about the end user experience. I used SRWARE Iron browser in the past, having got recommendations about security, but found just too many glitches with fairly common sites for it to be usable. I'd love to hear other's experiences, about how it works for day to day browsing.

    I'm using Iron as my main browser since recently switching from Opera. I find it works great. didn't find a site....oh wait IIRC google streetview seems to have a problem. I also use Tor and even IE, for different purposes.


  • #49
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    So I've installed TOR Browser, and the basic functionality is running. It was putting up some weird captcha screen before the destination website appeared, or perhaps the website host was putting up a weird captcha screen before the destination website appeared, but once I got through the captcha, I was fine.

    Two issues arise;

    1) Does boards.ie have some problem with TOR? It won't come up at all for me in TOR.
    2) Is there any point in using TOR with sites where registration or login is required, such as Boards or Facebook or gmail? Am I losing any benefit of anonymisation by logging in anyway?


  • #50
    Kinet1c
    Closed Accounts Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Kinet1c


    Boards doesn't allow tor traffic for whatever reason.


  • #51
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    bedlam wrote: »
    You can thank Cloudflare for this, it's a pain in the ass but they claim to be actively trying to find a balance so Tor users are not constantly bombarded by these captchas.



    Yes, access is blocked



    Yes*, have a read of part one of this blog post


    * as long at the connection to the site is over https.

    Thanks, very helpful, I'll try the https://facebookcorewwwi.onion/ service tonight


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  • #52
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    So, experiences so far;

    Facebook works OK, though a bit sluggish in displaying photos. I get warning messages flagging up that I'm logging in from Berlin. Only problem is the links in alert emails still link to the non-TOR version, so I have to click into the old version if I use the email. FB videos don't work, presumably because they require Flash.

    Donedeal doesn't work, for what they say is fraud prevention reasons. Mightytext.net doesn't work. Boards.ie doesn't work.

    Politics.ie works, with the cloudfare captcha challenge first. Tumblr works OK. YouTube works OK.

    I'm not convinced so far. It looks like I won't be able to use it as my default browser, so I'm not sure I'm motivated to have two browsers running all the time.


  • #53
    obsidianclock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭obsidianclock


    RainyDay wrote: »
    So, experiences so far;

    Facebook works OK, though a bit sluggish in displaying photos. I get warning messages flagging up that I'm logging in from Berlin. Only problem is the links in alert emails still link to the non-TOR version, so I have to click into the old version if I use the email. FB videos don't work, presumably because they require Flash.

    Donedeal doesn't work, for what they say is fraud prevention reasons. Mightytext.net doesn't work. Boards.ie doesn't work.

    Politics.ie works, with the cloudfare captcha challenge first. Tumblr works OK. YouTube works OK.

    I'm not convinced so far. It looks like I won't be able to use it as my default browser, so I'm not sure I'm motivated to have two browsers running all the time.

    Hi Rainyday,

    Have you tried to create a new Facebook account just over Tor yet? I'd like to see if it's possible to do one from scratch with an assumed name - of course technically we can't ever be anonymous on Facebook as you have to provide your real name!


  • #54
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    obsidianclock wrote: »
    Hi Rainyday,

    Have you tried to create a new Facebook account just over Tor yet? I'd like to see if it's possible to do one from scratch with an assumed name - of course technically we can't ever be anonymous on Facebook as you have to provide your real name!

    Nope, haven't tried that.

    I was a bit surprised to find that Facebook don't seem to have joined the dots. While using the TOR version, I get warnings in the TOR version that I'm logging in from somewhere unusual, like Croatia. Wouldn't you think that they'd realise that if I'm using the TOR version, of course my logins are going to come from unusual locations.

    And one more site for the blacklist of sites who blacklist TOR - thejournal.ie - why on earth would they be sensitive to login locations?


  • #55
    Khannie
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Kinet1c wrote: »
    Boards doesn't allow tor traffic for whatever reason.

    You can thank the trolls for that.


  • #56
    _Jumper_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭_Jumper_


    RainyDay wrote: »
    Nope, haven't tried that.

    I was a bit surprised to find that Facebook don't seem to have joined the dots. While using the TOR version, I get warnings in the TOR version that I'm logging in from somewhere unusual, like Croatia. Wouldn't you think that they'd realise that if I'm using the TOR version, of course my logins are going to come from unusual locations.

    And they even have an onion address.

    http://www.darknet.org.uk/2014/11/facebook-allows-tor-access-site/

    https://facebookcorewwwi.onion


  • #57
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    _Jumper_ wrote: »
    And they even have an onion address.

    http://www.darknet.org.uk/2014/11/facebook-allows-tor-access-site/

    https://facebookcorewwwi.onion

    Yep, it was the FB onion address I was using, which is why I was surprised to get warnings about logins from distant locations. And when I click the warning notification in the FB app on my phone, I get an Internet 'address not found' for an FB onion URL.


  • #58
    _Jumper_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭_Jumper_


    RainyDay wrote: »
    Yep, it was the FB onion address I was using, which is why I was surprised to get warnings about logins from distant locations. And when I click the warning notification in the FB app on my phone, I get an Internet 'address not found' for an FB onion URL.

    Ah right, just a gimmick from them so.


  • #59
    obsidianclock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭obsidianclock


    RainyDay wrote: »
    Nope, haven't tried that.

    I was a bit surprised to find that Facebook don't seem to have joined the dots. While using the TOR version, I get warnings in the TOR version that I'm logging in from somewhere unusual, like Croatia. Wouldn't you think that they'd realise that if I'm using the TOR version, of course my logins are going to come from unusual locations.

    And one more site for the blacklist of sites who blacklist TOR - thejournal.ie - why on earth would they be sensitive to login locations?

    Agree that does seem a bit unusual... Maybe they just don't want to run two parallel versions of Facebook, still it seems a pain!

    Of course it was always possible to use only exit nodes for a certain country by editing the torrc file but this has privacy implications by restricting you to a certain network.

    Also if you're going to say that you have to have a real name and mobile number to create a Facebook account, I'm not sure I see the advantage over a social network like Diaspora which requires neither and can be accessed over tor also.


  • #60
    obsidianclock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭obsidianclock


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    'Downloading Binaries From Random Unsecured Websites Still A Bad Idea'

    Whoever would have guessed? :-D


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  • #61
    _Jumper_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭_Jumper_


    obsidianclock wrote: »
    Hi Rainyday,

    Have you tried to create a new Facebook account just over Tor yet? I'd like to see if it's possible to do one from scratch with an assumed name - of course technically we can't ever be anonymous on Facebook as you have to provide your real name!
    Depends on the country.


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