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**pclancy** · 16-01-2012, 22:43

I think most people here just don't give a crap, Maori or Pakeha. There are a lot more important issues to sort out down here. Child poverty and education along with the growing gap in incomes would come way higher on the list then removing a figurehead queen who lives the other side of the world.

Most Maori that I know simply recognise their own Iwi leader as their actual family leader or some align to the Maori King, the crown to date has been pretty reasonable with land claims and resource repatriation so there doesnt seem a huge nationalistic sentiment amoungst most that i've met.

Hone Harawira would be a differnet story

A political leader that asked "Would you be comfortable with your Maori daughter coming home with a Pakeha boy?" Not someone that holds the majorty support but I guess he shows there are some out there that support his views as he keeps getting a trickle of votes.

**Mrs OBumble** · 17-01-2012, 13:46

The forces behind people's thinking on the republic issue are far deeper than newcomers to the country will understand - in much the same was as I'll never understand the significance of some of the north / south relationship issues in Ireland. Most Maori would recognise their iwi leadership internally - but the relationship of those iwi to the modern nation-state of NZ is based on the treaty with the Brittish crown, not the NZ government. Many non-Maori would agree too, do it's not simply a majority-vote based on ethnicity.

I'm not one of Lizzie's fans (though as a public servant I willingly signed oaths of allegiance to her). But seeing a presidential election over here, which had to be conducted on the basis of dirty personality-politics because presidents don't "do" issues, has given me a new appreciation of her detatched usefulness.

Cookie_Monster · 17-01-2012, 20:14

3 people in work have just confirmed it was an issue raised in the recent election by the way

kiwipower · 17-01-2012, 21:25

Funny,
As a NZer I had never thought of the issue the way JustMary put it.
I do think Mary has a very strong and reasonable point there.
Personally I do hope NZ ends up being a Republic. While the treaty is with the british monarch, It has never involved the monarch, and always been acted on by the government. As a Pakeha I still think the treaty is one of the most important defining documents for our country and national identity and should be strongly defended and instigated no matter what direction the country takes.

I think that while WW1&2 soldiers are still around that NZ will keep crown ties, also access to Britian for young Kiwis on their OE will also be an issue. (A bit like the Irish/US undocumented/illegal immigrants is a political issue in Ireland.)

Also as a tiny Pacific Country with a small population at the end of the world, having links to some other supporting nation or group of nations would be strategically important. In someways I would think we are better aligned with a socially supportive country grouping like the EU than a country like America who do not support there own under privilaged and would not care for NZs interests. (I am thinking here of social wellfare, LGBT rights etc.) while a large amount of NZers are now of asian descent I think this would also bring many issues of concern.

**pclancy** · 25-01-2012, 00:28

Got letter of invitation to apply last week so all i need to do now is medical, xray, police cert and tons of paperwork. Then hand over approx $2000 which is going to make me poor for a while. Might leave it till later in the year so that I can afford to enjoy summer

The process up to now was pretty easy I have to say. Ended up with 185 points.

canadian exile · 29-06-2012, 09:35

Sorry for dragging up an old thread but i didn't want to start a new one .
I am after applying for my skilled migrants visa and have sent away all my medical stuff and proof of qualification and experience. My lawyer contacted me via email yesterday to tell me i have been assigned a case officer.
Just wondering how long it takes to process on average from this point as from what i have heard one of the longest waits is for a case officer?
The only reason i ask is that i have a return flight to Ireland that can be pushed out to Christmas if i hear word in the next month or so.

Cookie_Monster · 03-07-2012, 05:22

your laywer?

it's one of those how long is a piece of string questions I reckon. Took us no time at all to get it via UK when back in Ireland, 6/7 weeks start to finish.

**pclancy** · 03-07-2012, 06:00

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Originally Posted by canadian exile

Sorry for dragging up an old thread but i didn't want to start a new one .
I am after applying for my skilled migrants visa and have sent away all my medical stuff and proof of qualification and experience. My lawyer contacted me via email yesterday to tell me i have been assigned a case officer.
Just wondering how long it takes to process on average from this point as from what i have heard one of the longest waits is for a case officer?
The only reason i ask is that i have a return flight to Ireland that can be pushed out to Christmas if i hear word in the next month or so.

Take it you are applying for skilled migrant residancy? If so I'm the same. Took about a month for a case officer to be assigned to me then he came back pretty quick asking for some more info which I provided. Havnt heard anything in a few weeks now so I asked for an update and he said he would be reviewing my case this week. Wouldnt give any more prediction about time.

According to the website it could take 9-12 months but I'm hopeing thats worst case scenario, others I've spoken to have had their PR processed in much less time like 3-4 monthes.

canadian exile · 03-07-2012, 07:40

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Originally Posted by pclancy

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadian exile

Sorry for dragging up an old thread but i didn't want to start a new one .
I am after applying for my skilled migrants visa and have sent away all my medical stuff and proof of qualification and experience. My lawyer contacted me via email yesterday to tell me i have been assigned a case officer.
Just wondering how long it takes to process on average from this point as from what i have heard one of the longest waits is for a case officer?
The only reason i ask is that i have a return flight to Ireland that can be pushed out to Christmas if i hear word in the next month or so.

Take it you are applying for skilled migrant residancy? If so I'm the same. Took about a month for a case officer to be assigned to me then he came back pretty quick asking for some more info which I provided. Havnt heard anything in a few weeks now so I asked for an update and he said he would be reviewing my case this week. Wouldnt give any more prediction about time.

According to the website it could take 9-12 months but I'm hopeing thats worst case scenario, others I've spoken to have had their PR processed in much less time like 3-4 monthes.

Cheers for that but I just got a call off of my lawyer a few hours ago RESIDENCY APPROVED so I'm now settled in for the night with a nice bottle of vino to celebrate

**pclancy** · 24-09-2012, 23:45

Finally got approval letter today. So from expression of interest in Jan, selection from the pool then invitation to apply with medical and job history stuff in April all the way to approval in September its been a long wait.

It certainly seems quicker to go through the process from outside NZ. Weird considering I've been here working and paying tax for four years, you'd think they'd give preference to people already in the country. I guess the local offices are very busy and probably under resourced like most of the public sector right now.

Anyway happy days! Kia ora.

MrCreosote · 25-09-2012, 11:56

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Originally Posted by pclancy

Anyway happy days! Kia ora.

Congrats! It's great to get that letter.

The first residence visa expires after 2 years- nearly caught us out on a trip back to Ireland. Generally a very quick formality getting the indefinite visa after the 2 years though.

keaneray · 25-09-2012, 21:48

'Finally got approval letter today. So from expression of interest in Jan, selection from the pool then invitation to apply with medical and job history stuff in April all the way to approval in September its been a long wait.'

That's interesting as I submitted my EOI in August of this year and 4 weeks later I got the all clear to send all my documents for residency. My partner is also on the application. It could be down to your points. I had 155 and could have claimed more, but would have to provide further documentation.

You would think being in NZ the application process would be quicker. I should have all the necessary documents ready to send in soon. A friend of mine last week got his residency and it only took a month. I'm hoping I'll have mine granted by this Christmas.

supermouse · 26-09-2012, 11:15

Im in two minds about applying for my residency too! Im on a 3 year visa but have 9 months left on it - will have been in NZ 3 years already come next month.

Im a bit nervous about going for it to be honest, i think i only have about 125 points ( no degree) and it took a lawyer for me to get my 3 year visa this time.

Did you find the process easy enough to do on your own PClancy?

kiwipower · 26-09-2012, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by pclancy

Finally got approval letter today. So from expression of interest in Jan, selection from the pool then invitation to apply with medical and job history stuff in April all the way to approval in September its been a long wait.

It certainly seems quicker to go through the process from outside NZ. Weird considering I've been here working and paying tax for four years, you'd think they'd give preference to people already in the country. I guess the local offices are very busy and probably under resourced like most of the public sector right now.

Anyway happy days! Kia ora.

Way to go PC! Enjoy the celebratory drinks! Will raise one for you over here! Recon our 2degree's of separation person will be happy to celebrate the news with you!

17-01-2012, 13:46	#17
Mrs OBumble Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Galway Posts: 6,643 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Things To Do In..., Work & Jobs	The forces behind people's thinking on the republic issue are far deeper than newcomers to the country will understand - in much the same was as I'll never understand the significance of some of the north / south relationship issues in Ireland. Most Maori would recognise their iwi leadership internally - but the relationship of those iwi to the modern nation-state of NZ is based on the treaty with the Brittish crown, not the NZ government. Many non-Maori would agree too, do it's not simply a majority-vote based on ethnicity. I'm not one of Lizzie's fans (though as a public servant I willingly signed oaths of allegiance to her). But seeing a presidential election over here, which had to be conducted on the basis of dirty personality-politics because presidents don't "do" issues, has given me a new appreciation of her detatched usefulness. Last edited by Mrs OBumble; 17-01-2012 at 21:42.

26-09-2012, 11:15	#28
supermouse Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Where ever i lay my stilletos... Posts: 374 Adverts \| Friends	Im in two minds about applying for my residency too! Im on a 3 year visa but have 9 months left on it - will have been in NZ 3 years already come next month. Im a bit nervous about going for it to be honest, i think i only have about 125 points ( no degree) and it took a lawyer for me to get my 3 year visa this time. Did you find the process easy enough to do on your own PClancy? Last edited by supermouse; 26-09-2012 at 11:36.

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16-01-2012, 22:43	#16
pclancy Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Wellington Posts: 3,547 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Aviation & Aircraft, New Zealand	I think most people here just don't give a crap, Maori or Pakeha. There are a lot more important issues to sort out down here. Child poverty and education along with the growing gap in incomes would come way higher on the list then removing a figurehead queen who lives the other side of the world. Most Maori that I know simply recognise their own Iwi leader as their actual family leader or some align to the Maori King, the crown to date has been pretty reasonable with land claims and resource repatriation so there doesnt seem a huge nationalistic sentiment amoungst most that i've met. Hone Harawira would be a differnet story A political leader that asked "Would you be comfortable with your Maori daughter coming home with a Pakeha boy?" Not someone that holds the majorty support but I guess he shows there are some out there that support his views as he keeps getting a trickle of votes.

17-01-2012, 20:14	#18
Cookie_Monster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NP, NI, NZ Posts: 17,293 Adverts \| Friends	3 people in work have just confirmed it was an issue raised in the recent election by the way

17-01-2012, 21:25	#19
kiwipower Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In ireland on Boards.ie! Posts: 776 Adverts \| Friends	Funny, As a NZer I had never thought of the issue the way JustMary put it. I do think Mary has a very strong and reasonable point there. Personally I do hope NZ ends up being a Republic. While the treaty is with the british monarch, It has never involved the monarch, and always been acted on by the government. As a Pakeha I still think the treaty is one of the most important defining documents for our country and national identity and should be strongly defended and instigated no matter what direction the country takes. I think that while WW1&2 soldiers are still around that NZ will keep crown ties, also access to Britian for young Kiwis on their OE will also be an issue. (A bit like the Irish/US undocumented/illegal immigrants is a political issue in Ireland.) Also as a tiny Pacific Country with a small population at the end of the world, having links to some other supporting nation or group of nations would be strategically important. In someways I would think we are better aligned with a socially supportive country grouping like the EU than a country like America who do not support there own under privilaged and would not care for NZs interests. (I am thinking here of social wellfare, LGBT rights etc.) while a large amount of NZers are now of asian descent I think this would also bring many issues of concern.

25-01-2012, 00:28	#20
pclancy Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Wellington Posts: 3,547 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Aviation & Aircraft, New Zealand	Got letter of invitation to apply last week so all i need to do now is medical, xray, police cert and tons of paperwork. Then hand over approx $2000 which is going to make me poor for a while. Might leave it till later in the year so that I can afford to enjoy summer The process up to now was pretty easy I have to say. Ended up with 185 points.

29-06-2012, 09:35	#21
canadian exile Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Posts: 17 Adverts \| Friends	Sorry for dragging up an old thread but i didn't want to start a new one . I am after applying for my skilled migrants visa and have sent away all my medical stuff and proof of qualification and experience. My lawyer contacted me via email yesterday to tell me i have been assigned a case officer. Just wondering how long it takes to process on average from this point as from what i have heard one of the longest waits is for a case officer? The only reason i ask is that i have a return flight to Ireland that can be pushed out to Christmas if i hear word in the next month or so.

03-07-2012, 05:22	#22
Cookie_Monster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NP, NI, NZ Posts: 17,293 Adverts \| Friends	your laywer? it's one of those how long is a piece of string questions I reckon. Took us no time at all to get it via UK when back in Ireland, 6/7 weeks start to finish.

24-09-2012, 23:45	#25
pclancy Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Wellington Posts: 3,547 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Aviation & Aircraft, New Zealand	Finally got approval letter today. So from expression of interest in Jan, selection from the pool then invitation to apply with medical and job history stuff in April all the way to approval in September its been a long wait. It certainly seems quicker to go through the process from outside NZ. Weird considering I've been here working and paying tax for four years, you'd think they'd give preference to people already in the country. I guess the local offices are very busy and probably under resourced like most of the public sector right now. Anyway happy days! Kia ora.

25-09-2012, 21:48	#27
keaneray Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Auckland Posts: 30 Adverts \| Friends	'Finally got approval letter today. So from expression of interest in Jan, selection from the pool then invitation to apply with medical and job history stuff in April all the way to approval in September its been a long wait.' That's interesting as I submitted my EOI in August of this year and 4 weeks later I got the all clear to send all my documents for residency. My partner is also on the application. It could be down to your points. I had 155 and could have claimed more, but would have to provide further documentation. You would think being in NZ the application process would be quicker. I should have all the necessary documents ready to send in soon. A friend of mine last week got his residency and it only took a month. I'm hoping I'll have mine granted by this Christmas.