Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

robopaddy · 18-07-2013 9:37am

noiniho wrote: »

Maybe the amount of abuse that was going around from some supporters when Eoin came on against Cork was a factor, but i dont know

nah anyone who knows the mcgraths knows they are bigger than that. There was no hidden agenda as far as Im aware he just found it hard having been a player for so long that the same buzz wasnt there from being on the sideline. I think he felt he needed to give something back to his club for a a while aswell and is just going take a step back from the intercounty scene for a couple years. I think we'll definetly see him involved again at some stage.

KevIRL · 18-07-2013 9:39am

seananigans wrote: »

What's the general feeling for keeping Michael Ryan on ?

I was thinking with the finances it's a foregone conclusion and i think he has made a team out of Waterford as opposed to a group of talented hurlers.

would fancy him having one hell of a deep bench in 2 years and we wont be so reliant on 1-2 players playing well for scores.

Shouldnt even be up for debate really imo, he has done an excellent job gotten good results and developed a good team in whats been a tough time of transition.

robopaddy · 18-07-2013 9:48am

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Will a decision be made soon? They are absolute clowns if they go and appoint another manager, need stability over the next few years rather than bringing in a new man and the players having to prove themselves again

The general consensus is that he will be offered another term and you cant but say that hes earned it. I think hes come on leaps and bounds as a coach and a manager in the past 2 years as you have to admit he looked pretty clueless when he came in first.

I think its a reflection of where were at given we havent been out of the championship this early since in over 10 years however its probably the most optimistic people have been in a long while. We were getting to AI semi finals under Davy Fitz yet the consensus was that we were going nowhere. Unlike Davy Fitz I think skully has the interests of Waterford hurling at heart and is interested in the future of Waterford and seeing our young hurlers developing

Unless there was someone glaringly obvious that could come in and do better I dont see any change next year

doz · 18-07-2013 10:01am

Shouldn't even be up for debate, deserves at least another term and possibly more if we continue our progress next year.

Met him for the first time after the minor match against Cork and would add that he was a pleasure to talk to. His passion for Waterford GAA was very obvious even from a brief conversation.

Hidalgo · 18-07-2013 11:02am

Not sure if this is official, but I've been told this is the team for tonight V Waterford.

Ronan Taafe
Paul Flanagan
David mcInerney
Jack Browne
Seadna Morey
Alan O Neill
Stephen O halloran
Colm Galvin
Tony Kelly
Peter Duggan
Podge Collins
Arron Cunningham
Cathal O Connell
Daire Keane
Shane O Donnell

The main losses from last year's team being the creativity and finishing ability of Conor McGrath and Cathal MacInerney and the physical presence of CConor Ryan and Shane Golden.

The matchup between Podge Collins and Darragh Fives will be interesting, both had a long evening Saturday.
3 good goalscorers in the inside line, both wing forwards able to win their own ball. Happy to see Tony Kelly back in midfield also.

One worry I'd have is the amount of this team on the senior panel, they've done very little as an entire unit, I guess though that Waterford are in a similar boat.

premierstone · 18-07-2013 11:34am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Who else is there really ? From looking at Donal Og Cusacks analysis on team tactics etc on the Sunday game I think he would make a good manager.

But getting in the big name managers don't always work out well eg Donal o Grady in limerick, Ger Loughnane in Galway.

Donal O'Grady was a big sucess in Limerick and laid the foundations for what we seen last Sunday.

Loughnane maybe a big name, mostly because of he's own self promoting, but aside from ther '95-'99 Clare team what did he actually ever achieve anywhere else, he was a selector for Clare previously and he was sacked, he had an unsuccessfull spell as U21 manager and then had he's flop with Galway. A great motiovator who had an exceptional set of backs/midfielders at he's disoposal but far from a great manager.

All that aside this debate is completely unnessecary as Michael Ryan is clearly the right man for the job and anything other than him been retained would be a step backwards for Waterford.

hardybuck · 18-07-2013 11:42am

I've heard people from Down give really positive feedback about Paul Flynn. He did a good job with Carlow's U21s as well by all accounts. We could do worse than to have him involved.

Also, do we have a goalkeeping coach? I'm sure there is someone coming in doing drills, but when we have a young keeper it'd be great if we had someone experienced coming in to give him advice.

Mr Tibbs · 18-07-2013 1:37pm

hardybuck wrote: »

I've heard people from Down give really positive feedback about Paul Flynn. He did a good job with Carlow's U21s as well by all accounts. We could do worse than to have him involved.

Also, do we have a goalkeeping coach? I'm sure there is someone coming in doing drills, but when we have a young keeper it'd be great if we had someone experienced coming in to give him advice.

Pat Moore is the goalkeeping coach.

Horseboxhead · 18-07-2013 2:14pm

I thought he was a referee, now hes a goal keeping coach, Who ever was passing on the info re who the best goalkeeper in waterford was up to when sok took over again should no longer be in that position, unless he had some personal preference for picking iggy,and why would he ?,i mean its not as if its well known he has a love for all things mount sion,and that of course is not the sions fault,but jesus Goal keeping coach, what a load of crap.

Mountainlad · 18-07-2013 2:21pm

Horseboxhead wrote: »

I thought he was a referee, now hes a goal keeping coach, Who ever was passing on the info re who the best goalkeeper in waterford was up to when sok took over again should no longer be in that position, unless he had some personal preference for picking iggy,and why would he ?,i mean its not as if its well known he has a love for all things mount sion,and that of course is not the sions fault,but jesus Goal keeping coach, what a load of crap.

Dry up mate, I think Pat Moore used be a goalkeeper. He refereed, and holds refereeing seminars and coaching seminars for prospective coaches i.e. he has a background in coaching. He doesn't pick who starts, thats the selectors (including the manager in that) job. He's obviously doing a decent job.

robopaddy · 18-07-2013 3:38pm

Horseboxhead wrote: »

I thought he was a referee, now hes a goal keeping coach, Who ever was passing on the info re who the best goalkeeper in waterford was up to when sok took over again should no longer be in that position, unless he had some personal preference for picking iggy,and why would he ?,i mean its not as if its well known he has a love for all things mount sion,and that of course is not the sions fault,but jesus Goal keeping coach, what a load of crap.

lord above, who took the jam out of your doughnut?

First of all hes finished reffing with about 10 years secondly he dosent pick the goalkeeper. the manager makes the call. And SOK wasnt dropped for the Clare game because they didnt think he was the best in the county. He was dropped due to form, and he was poor in the league. Its easy be wise afterwards.

Deise Hurler · 18-07-2013 4:36pm

Horseboxhead wrote: »

I thought he was a referee, now hes a goal keeping coach, Who ever was passing on the info re who the best goalkeeper in waterford was up to when sok took over again should no longer be in that position, unless he had some personal preference for picking iggy,and why would he ?,i mean its not as if its well known he has a love for all things mount sion,and that of course is not the sions fault,but jesus Goal keeping coach, what a load of crap.

Pat Moore has been involved in coaching for years. Last team I saw him involved with was the Abbeyside Under 14 team who represented Waterford at Feile this year. A sound man.

Psychedelic · 18-07-2013 6:13pm

Just in case anyone is wondering, the u21 match is not being covered live on WLR, they're doing the Waterford Utd vs Man Utd instead.

seananigans · 18-07-2013 6:18pm

Psychedelic wrote: »

Just in case anyone is wondering, the u21 match is not being covered live on WLR, they're doing the Waterford Utd vs Man Utd instead.

So we have to listen to the filth's radio online ?

will it be on here? http://clare.fm/

Nuts102 · 18-07-2013 6:49pm

seananigans wrote: »

So we have to listen to the filth's radio online ?

will it be on here? http://clare.fm/

It's on TG4.

KevIRL · 18-07-2013 7:08pm

As good an evening as I can remember in walsh park for a game. Shorts are the order of the day. Let's hope the boys can get a win

KevIRL · 18-07-2013 7:10pm

Waterford 9/4 on pp. Gonna have a bit of that

Professey Chin · 18-07-2013 7:40pm

Bad start. Havnt gotten going at all

Deise_2012 · 18-07-2013 7:42pm

big boost if kelly stays off

KevIRL · 18-07-2013 7:50pm

Kelly gone away in ambulance I believe. Not nice to see

Professey Chin · 18-07-2013 7:53pm

KevIRL wrote: »

Kelly gone away in ambulance I believe. Not nice to see

Id say a concussion from the slap he took.

Are we only playing 2 in the forward line? Seems to be nobody up there for every ball.

Deise_2012 · 18-07-2013 7:55pm

KevIRL wrote: »

Kelly gone away in ambulance I believe. Not nice to see

nope wouldn't wish it on any player

Professey Chin · 18-07-2013 7:59pm

Dillon scoring for fun

Cake Man · 18-07-2013 7:59pm

Doing well now, keep it going before HT.

KevIRL · 18-07-2013 8:05pm

Dillon playing really well here. Took us a while to get into it but once we did its been looking a lot better. 1 pt ahead at half time, not many goal chances have a feeling first goal could be crucial

doz · 18-07-2013 8:06pm

Great battling display from lads despite cleaned out in the forwards for the most part. Would still expect Clare to win but a big improvement on last year so far.

Cake Man · 18-07-2013 8:12pm

We seem to be living off frees though, if Clare can cut down on giving them away I can see us struggling for scores.

Deise_2012 · 18-07-2013 8:26pm

stupid foul

Cake Man · 18-07-2013 8:27pm

Christ Paudie Prende second yellow.

Paudie Mahony on tho, though he was out!

Cake Man · 18-07-2013 8:34pm

Ozzie Gleeson on for Barron, up by 2 with 15mins left come on lads!

EDIT: Fcuk, missed free then Clare goal. Sickener

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