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Irish Times Crossword (Crosaire)

stepinnman · 2008-07-16 13:18:04

I'm currently finding myself with a lot of time on my hands and this has enabled me to have a good crack at the Crosaire in the Irish Times every day. I'm getting closer to finishing it and I'm hoping there are some other people out there who might be interested in a regular thread to swap answers. For today's Crosaire…

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#302 21-08-2008 10:38am

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bothyhead wrote: »

BTW, I think 21d is
"The Rent" - rent is the act if ripping (tearing) something

I just saw that this morning. I don't think I would ever have got that one!

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#303 21-08-2008 11:08am

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Spike440 wrote: »

I just saw that this morning. I don't think I would ever have got that one!

Yeah, but you got the 5 others that I didn't

There were some nice tricky ones there yesterday

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#304 21-08-2008 11:28am

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17d.
apple cart
19d.
autumnal
27d.
castle
28d.
rancid

18a.
plaudit
32a.
commit
34a.
really
31a.
adages
33a.
noticing

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#305 21-08-2008 11:31am

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Only a few so far:

9a -
ENTIRE
11a -
CAMERA
14a -
ERAS
16a -
RETAIL
26a -
NICER
30a -
VEST
32a -
COMMIT
33a -
NOTICING
34a -
REALLY
35a -
IMPENDING

6d -
IN CASE
8d -
DERAILING
11d -
CARVE
17d -
APPLE CART
19d -
AUTUMNAL
23d -
ANTONYM
25d -
EVILLY
27d -
CASTLE
28d -
RANCID
29d -
PENNON

Maybe 10a -
ADDITION
?

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#306 21-08-2008 11:35am

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Maybe 10a -
ADDITION

Or
positive
?

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#307 21-08-2008 11:35am

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24A
LATHES
34A
REALLY
26A
NICER
16A
RETAIL
11A
CAMERA
14A
ERAS
6A
VEST??
*?
35A
IMPENDING?
*?

25D
EVILLY
11D
CARVE
6D
IN CASE
23D
ANTONYM
20D
INSET

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#308 21-08-2008 11:36am

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stepinnman wrote: »

31a.
adages

I don't get it. I get the
AD (Father)
but not the rest.

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#309 21-08-2008 11:40am

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21a -
BENISON

22d -
NEED

7d -
NICE DAYS

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#310 21-08-2008 11:43am

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1a -
TIME BEING

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#311 21-08-2008 11:50am

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I took a shot in the dark:

5d -
NANKEEN - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nankeen

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#312 21-08-2008 11:52am

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Spike440 wrote: »

21a -
BENISON

22d -
NEED

7d -
NICE DAYS

BENISON, Mother of God.. .

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#313 21-08-2008 11:54am

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To be fair I had to use a thesaurus for that one.

10a -
ADDITION

3d -
EDITOR

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#314 21-08-2008 11:55am

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Spike440 wrote: »

I took a shot in the dark:

5d -
NANKEEN - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nankeen

Jesus

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#315 21-08-2008 11:59am

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I had
N _ N K E E N
so it had to be one of two options!

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#316 21-08-2008 12:00pm

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Spike440 wrote: »

To be fair I had to use a thesaurus for that one.

10a -
ADDITION

3d -
EDITOR

I was walking the line of thinking that fifty-one was LI, but the 50-1 D-I got me with my pants down.. .

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#317 21-08-2008 12:05pm

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The fifty one clue is 4d. I'm assuming it has LI in it too.

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#318 21-08-2008 12:08pm

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Spike440 wrote: »

The fifty one clue is 4d. I'm assuming it has LI in it too.

surely 4D is
EDITOR
not 3D?

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#319 21-08-2008 12:12pm

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3d -
EDITOR - EDIT = TIDE (water rising) + or

4d -
ELISON - The cutting off or suppression of a vowel or syllable

I'm guessing 15a must be
RANGE
?

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#320 21-08-2008 12:17pm

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2d -
INDIES

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#321 21-08-2008 12:18pm

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Spike440 wrote: »

3d -
EDITOR - EDIT = TIDE (water rising) + or

4d -
ELISON - The cutting off or suppression of a vowel or syllable

I'm guessing 15a must be
RANGE
?

Oh yeah, fair play

9A
ENTIRE?
*?

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#322 21-08-2008 12:28pm

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That's right yeah.

Here's the last few:

12a -
REVOKE
15a -
RIDGE

4d -
EDITED - how does fifty-one = IT???
13d -
KIND

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#323 21-08-2008 12:37pm

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Spike440 wrote: »

That's right yeah.

Here's the last few:

12a -
REVOKE
15a -
RIDGE

4d -
EDITED - how does fifty-one = IT???
13d -
KIND

fifty-one = 50-1 which reads as 501, five hundred & one - DI.. .

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#324 21-08-2008 12:56pm

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The clue is "This been shortened to fifty-one, indeed".

Now my understanding is that "indeed" means "in deed" i.e. The letters D E E D are four of the six. The direct part of the clue is "shortened" which gives us edited.

So what I don't get is how "fifty-one" gives the other two letters (I T). I see your logic for getting the letters D I, but that still leaves us without a T.

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#325 21-08-2008 4:19pm

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I think that 4D is
ELIDED
. This gives LI for fifty-one inside an anagram of DEED.

I would rate this as a poor clue, because "indeed" doesn't tell us that the letters DEED need to be rearranged before LI is inserted.

"This been shortened" isn't very grammatical, but perhaps it's intended to provide an illustrative example of the answer?

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#326 21-08-2008 4:58pm

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e·lide verb (used with object), e·lid·ed, e·lid·ing. 1. to omit (a vowel, consonant, or syllable) in pronunciation.

Yes that's it. I think the first three words of the clue are an illustrative example alright, but it's not a very accurate example. He has omitted a word instead of a letter of syllable. It's a very unsatisfactory clue, not least because I have never heard of the word!

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#327 21-08-2008 10:14pm

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hivizman wrote: »

I would rate this as a poor clue, because "indeed" doesn't tell us that the letters DEED need to be rearranged before LI is inserted.

I was just about disagree, but when I stopped to think about it, I realized you are quite correct, there is no anagram indicator. From what I can make out, Crosaire is considered to be a very much non-standard setter, and this would be a typical situation.

That being said ... he still provides us with hours of fun - or frustration in my case

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#328 22-08-2008 9:38am

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Spike440 wrote: »

I don't get it. I get the
AD (Father)
but not the rest.

Another clue I'm not happy with - there was no indicator to reverse DA to give AD; Anyway, I can't remember the exact wording of the clue ...

Times = Ages
Adages = A saying = Saw

From www.dictionary.com

saw - noun a sententious saying; maxim; proverb: He could muster an old saw for every occasion.

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#329 22-08-2008 9:43am

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Hmmm. I wasn't aware of anything beyond the usual two meanings of "saw". But hey, we got it done in the end.

Onwards and upwards. Let's have a look at today's. *reads* Wagner? Oh god.

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#330 22-08-2008 9:51am

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Oh dear, and Puccini as well ...

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#331 22-08-2008 10:03am

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Knock Puccini into wikipedia and you'll get the answer.

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