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Nine-year-old girl who gives birth to baby is then sterilized by doctors

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    #32
    Branch Meeting
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    Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »
    Jubilee clips. She can undo them herself

    Think you're a big funny guy at this little girls expense eh ?


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    space_man
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    Branch Meeting wrote: »
    Think you're a big funny guy at this little girls expense eh ?

    i agree this is not a matter to joke about. this issue is really quite serious, and will only get more so as these people procreate in order to take advantage of the overtly generous welfare payments doled out to them.
    unfortunately once somebody raises the issue from a perspective that is not belonging to the liberal & bleeding heart, lefty slant you will be insulted and dismissed as a racist.


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    #34
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    space_man wrote: »
    i agree this is not a matter to joke about. this issue is really quite serious, and will only get more so as these people procreate in order to take advantage of the overtly generous welfare payments doled out to them.
    unfortunately once somebody raises the issue from a perspective that is not belonging to the liberal & bleeding heart, lefty slant you will be insulted and dismissed as a racist.

    Are you saying it's a good thing that an abused nine-year-old rape victim is sterilised, because it's likely any futher children she might have may depend at some point on welfare payments?

    Racist isn't the word for that. Eugenics is.


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    #35
    space_man
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    Candie wrote: »
    Are you saying it's a good thing that an abused nine-year-old rape victim is sterilised, because it's likely any futher children she might have may depend at some point on welfare payments?

    Racist isn't the word for that. Eugenics is.

    well the doctor in this case obviously thought it would be a good thing.
    there are people who offer absolutely nothing positive to society.


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    #36
    The Dagda
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    space_man wrote: »
    doubtless they'll formulate their own opinions in time. (some are already quite opinionated i'll have you know!)

    that said there are families who by the very act of procreation diminish and cheapen society. one only has to take a casual stroll down our capital's main thoroughfare to be able to identify them. apart from anything else it will save the exchequer a small fortune on child benefits, dole payments, medical cards, free legal aid, prisons etc.

    You are nothing more than an ignorant bigoted snob. People like you are a greater risk to Ireland, and the human race in general, than anyone you look down your uninformed nose at. Nothing cheapens society more than someone valuing another person's life in monetary terms. Nevermind the arrogance of thinking you're better/more worthy than anyone else.


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    #37
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    space_man wrote: »
    well the doctor in this case obviously thought it would be a good thing.
    there are people who offer absolutely nothing positive to society.

    Perhaps you can explain to us all what you offer ?


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    #38
    The Dagda
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    space_man wrote: »
    well the doctor in this case obviously thought it would be a good thing.
    there are people who offer absolutely nothing positive to society.

    You have no idea why the doctor did what he did, so stop spouting sh1t. And who are you to judge whether someone contributes positively, or otherwise, to society?!


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    #39
    MagicSean
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    token101 wrote: »
    Didn't an Irish hospital leave a woman to die less than six months ago after she pleaded for an abortion?

    Not that I am aware of.


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    Sh1tbag OToole
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    Branch Meeting wrote: »
    Think you're a big funny guy at this little girls expense eh ?
    space_man wrote: »
    i agree this is not a matter to joke about. this issue is really quite serious, and will only get more so as these people procreate in order to take advantage of the overtly generous welfare payments doled out to them.
    unfortunately once somebody raises the issue from a perspective that is not belonging to the liberal & bleeding heart, lefty slant you will be insulted and dismissed as a racist.

    Might as well salvage a few laughs from this unfortunate happening


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    #41
    Think_then_talk
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    Raymundo Serrano, head of Gynaecology at Zoquipan Hospital where the
    nine-year-old gave birth, said: "The girl received a subdermal contraceptive implant after her parents signed consent forms. It was administered in her forearm and will be effective for up to three years".So she got a contraceptive device in her arm .That is not a permanent sterilization.
    Please God she gets the help she needs.
    http://tinyurl.com/d3n4swk


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    #42
    The Bishop Basher
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    Shameful.


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    #43
    space_man
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    Think_then_talk wrote: »
    Raymundo Serrano, head of Gynaecology at Zoquipan Hospital where the
    nine-year-old gave birth, said: "The girl received a subdermal contraceptive implant after her parents signed consent forms. It was administered in her forearm and will be effective for up to three years".So she got a contraceptive device in her arm .That is not a permanent sterilization.
    Please God she gets the help she needs.
    http://tinyurl.com/d3n4swk

    Ah! yes The DailyMail.:rolleyes:


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    #44
    Sh1tbag OToole
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    Think_then_talk wrote: »
    Raymundo Serrano, head of Gynaecology at Zoquipan Hospital where the
    nine-year-old gave birth, said: "The girl received a subdermal contraceptive implant after her parents signed consent forms. It was administered in her forearm and will be effective for up to three years".So she got a contraceptive device in her arm .That is not a permanent sterilization.
    Please God she gets the help she needs.
    http://tinyurl.com/d3n4swk

    A far cry from the shocking "sterilized by doctors" headline


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    #45
    Karen23
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    My little girl turned 9 last week , this story is heartbreaking :(


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    #46
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    Why is journalism so crappy these days? Surely those involved should have even a modicum of pride in their profession?. It used to be about accuracy and reporting the truth. Now its only about generating sensational headlines, and the truth be damned.


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    #47
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    space_man wrote: »
    there are people who offer absolutely nothing positive to society.

    And you may very well be one of them yourself.


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    #48
    space_man
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    Candie wrote: »
    And you may very well be one of them yourself.

    and you may be one yourself. alas we may never know.;)


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    #49
    languagenerd
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    Think_then_talk wrote: »
    Raymundo Serrano, head of Gynaecology at Zoquipan Hospital where the
    nine-year-old gave birth, said: "The girl received a subdermal contraceptive implant after her parents signed consent forms. It was administered in her forearm and will be effective for up to three years".So she got a contraceptive device in her arm .That is not a permanent sterilization.
    Please God she gets the help she needs.
    http://tinyurl.com/d3n4swk

    That's what the Spanish newspapers were saying all along. What are the Daily Mail at?! :mad:


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    #50
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why is journalism so crappy these days? Surely those involved should have even a modicum of pride in their profession?. It used to be about accuracy and reporting the truth. Now its only about generating sensational headlines, and the truth be damned.
    there have always been hacks

    The NUJ let Dunphy in

    or the Penny Dreadfuls

    it's just that now there is less alternative to poor journalism in print

    most of the good stuff's on the interweb now


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    #51
    davet82
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    Who ever wrote that article should shot sacked, i knew it was suspect when there was no detail what so ever on the steralization allegedly preform


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    #52
    space_man
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    davet82 wrote: »
    Who ever wrote that article should shot sacked, i knew it was suspect when there was no detail what so ever on the steralization allegedly preform

    "only believe half of what you see, and nothing you read" My Uncle Jim:D


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    Squeaky the Squirrel
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    So it turns out she is 12 or 13 and the father of the baby is her 44 yo step father.

    Legal age of consent in Mexico is 14? FFS, in this day and age...

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/mexico/130214/9-year-old-mexican-mother-mom


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    #54
    My name is URL
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    Squeaky the Squirrel wrote: »
    So it turns out she is 12 or 13 and the father of the baby is her 44 yo step father.

    Legal age of consent in Mexico is 14? FFS, in this day and age...

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/mexico/130214/9-year-old-mexican-mother-mom

    It's 14 in France & Germany too. What age do you think it should be?

    People will abuse individuals & laws regardless of the arbitrary rules that counties enforce. That's what makes it abuse.


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