Formula 1 2012: General Discussion Thread

Myrddin · 20-09-2012 12:55pm

the culture of deference wrote: »

I have got use to sky now. Herbert is excellent, Brundle and crofty the same. Damon is still a bit wooden but he is a WC. The practise sessions are where you hear the best banter.

The coverage is repetitive but I couldn't watch BBC highlights anymore.

BBC without Jake is the death knell of BBC coverage for me. I know they made this deal with Sky to save money, I wonder how many viewers it will costs them in the end though

20-09-2012 2:14pm

Sky's coverage has improved over the course of the season, the two main weakpoints for me are Lazenby and that they just seem to try to fit too much into some sessions.

Jordan 199 · 20-09-2012 4:23pm

Alonso: any new Ferrari driver must be stronger than Massa.

Fernando Alonso says Ferrari must be convinced it is hiring a driver who is stronger than Felipe Massa if it decides to replace the Brazilian.

Massa's future at the Maranello team has been in doubt since the opening few races of the season. Several drivers, including Sergio Perez, have been linked to his seat in recent months.

Alonso labelled the drivers on that list as "little names" compared to Massa and his achievements in Formula 1.

"I've been working with Felipe for three years now and we have a very good relationship," said Alonso on Thursday in Singapore.

"If the team decides to change Felipe, anyone who arrives has to be better than Felipe.

"I've seen a lot of names written, and I don't know if they have been written with the head or the heart.

"With all the names you hear, if you compare what Felipe has done in Formula 1 and what these little names have done in Formula 1..."

The two-time champion stressed that another priority for Ferrari should be to find a driver who respects its tradition and is ready to work for the team.

"I think we need to respect the decision the team will make," said Alonso.

"In my opinion we need to have a driver that respects Ferrari, that respects the tradition that here we work for the team, for the red cars, and this is the first priority."

Article on Autosport.

Myrddin · 20-09-2012 5:29pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Schumacher it is then :pac:

Joking aside, surely thats really really unlikely?

Jordan 199 · 20-09-2012 5:41pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Joking aside, surely thats really really unlikely?

Indeed. I can see Schumi staying at Mercedes.

If Massa is replaced at Ferrari, it will be with a driver who will do a better job, but also a driver that won't scare Alonso.

the culture of deference · 20-09-2012 5:43pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Joking aside, surely thats really really unlikely?

Who knows what idea's for the show Bernie has in his head. Remember Irvine going to Ferrari.

Would MS ever go back there?

Rascasse · 20-09-2012 5:46pm

Could you imagine him getting the "Fernando is faster than you" call?

No chance of him going back to Ferrari I reckon. In that article Fernando basically says he wants Massa, and thats what'll probably happen.

Myrddin · 20-09-2012 6:08pm

Rascasse wrote: »

Could you imagine him getting the "Fernando is faster than you" call?

No chance of him going back to Ferrari I reckon. In that article Fernando basically says he wants Massa, and thats what'll probably happen.

I tend to agree, its not a role that would suit Alonso nor Schumacher

Frank Bullitt · 21-09-2012 10:45am

I see Massa getting another year, if he can keep his form from Monza.

I also think Hamilton will stay at McLaren.

lord lucan · 21-09-2012 11:03am

Provisional calendar for next year according to Autosport.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102674

Wouldn't mind a spin over for Canada & New Jersey back to back.:)

Myrddin · 21-09-2012 11:07am

Hamilton with a silver helmet, hmm

Also no audio feed for Setanta's coverage of FP1. "Circumstances beyond our control"...bollox, what a utter tripe channel.

Myrddin · 21-09-2012 12:04pm

Vettel sporting another new helmet design, this time incorporating flashing led's onto the top of it. Getting a bit much at this stage

the culture of deference · 21-09-2012 12:48pm

Rascasse wrote: »

No chance of him going back to Ferrari I reckon. In that article Fernando basically says he wants Massa, and thats what'll probably happen.

EnterNow wrote: »

I tend to agree, its not a role that would suit Alonso nor Schumacher

For reputation Alonso would have to dominate MS. Anything less would be a failure for him against a 21 year veteran. MS is still driving to WC standards and this year he could have been up there but for car failure.

EnterNow wrote: »

Vettel sporting another new helmet design, this time incorporating flashing led's onto the top of it. Getting a bit much at this stage

He is turning into lady Gaga or peter gabriel. A new hat even time he go's outside

Jordan 199 · 21-09-2012 12:55pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Vettel sporting another new helmet design, this time incorporating flashing led's onto the top of it. Getting a bit much at this stage

I'd say all those helmet design changes are down to Red Bull and not Vettel.

Myrddin · 21-09-2012 1:05pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

I'd say all those helmet design changes are down to Red Bull and not Vettel.

Why wouldn't Webber be changing the designs too in that case? I'd say he gets paid a fortune to advertise different designs etc

21-09-2012 1:08pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Why wouldn't Webber be changing the designs too in that case? I'd say he gets paid a fortune to advertise different designs etc

Impossible to know but Webber isn't the golden boy like Vettel is. If it was Red Bull insisting on it it would be Vettel indirectly getting paid by advertisers. I just think it's Vettel not giving a crap about tradition and adding more money to his/Red Bull's pile.

Jordan 199 · 21-09-2012 1:09pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Why wouldn't Webber be changing the designs too in that case? I'd say he gets paid a fortune to advertise different designs etc

It's because Vettel was backed by Red Bull in other formula before he came to F1. He has a long association with Red Bull.

the culture of deference · 21-09-2012 1:11pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

I'd say all those helmet design changes are down to Red Bull and not Vettel.

No it is Vettel. He wants to keep all his own memorobilia

Max_Charger · 21-09-2012 1:19pm

Designs are by Jens Munser, Seb has an input but nothing to do with Red Bull. He purely designs racing helmets for drivers. http://www.jmd.de/neu/

Myrddin · 21-09-2012 4:08pm

My first day watching Sky F1...now I like Hamilton I've no probs saying that...but jesus christ, is Herbert in love with him or something?

Grim. · 21-09-2012 6:46pm

EnterNow wrote: »

My first day watching Sky F1...now I like Hamilton I've no probs saying that...but jesus christ, is Herbert in love with him or something?

yeah they're horribly biased towards Mclaren (Lewis in particular) in their build up etc, the race commentary team is grand though i find.

counterlock · 21-09-2012 9:27pm

Grim. wrote: »

yeah they're horribly biased towards Mclaren (Lewis in particular) in their build up etc, the race commentary team is grand though i find.

In fairness, its not surprising after ITV and BBC's coverage

recyclebin · 21-09-2012 9:57pm

lord lucan wrote: »

Provisional calendar for next year according to Autosport.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102674

Wouldn't mind a spin over for Canada & New Jersey back to back.:)

I'm thinking of doing this or maybe Belgium and Italy. I've been to the grand prix in Montreal before so i'm leaning more towards going to Spa and Monza back to back.

Corben Dallas · 22-09-2012 1:38am

Vettel changes his helmet colour nearly every race, his choice. Only things that are the same is position on every design are Sponsors logos.
Wow LEDS for sebs weekend,thats a first... are they powered keneticly???!!!! :O

Webber's new design, is from the competition winner for designing Mark's new colours (could be just for Singapore.)

Anyone think Kimi's 'Iceman calligraphy' design when he was at ferrari were much much better than the boring black and white thing he has now... i mean it doesnt even say 'Iceman' . fail.

One of the best tracks of the year, at night, better track even than Monaco(Challenge wise) > quick plus u can overtake.

Jordan 199 · 22-09-2012 2:18am

Corben Dallas wrote: »

Webber's new design, is from the competition winner for designing Mark's new colours (could be just for Singapore.)

Webber's new design is just for the Singapore GP.

I read on the Red Bull site that he was submitted 1,118 designs and he reviewed them all and picked the one above.

22-09-2012 3:51am

EnterNow wrote: »

My first day watching Sky F1...now I like Hamilton I've no probs saying that...but jesus christ, is Herbert in love with him or something?

....and Jenson is doing OK too.

SilverScreen · 22-09-2012 9:41pm

I miss the days when the drivers had their own distinct and instantly recognisable helmet design. Most drivers seem to be changing their helmet design every week as if it would magically help their performance or something like that.

Jordan 199 · 24-09-2012 12:49am

Apparently the shark fin that's attached to engine cover on the Mercedes above may be on all F1 cars next year.

The drivers car number, initials and national flag will be on the fin, just like the one above.

Picture above was taken at Magny-Cours test.

Inbox · 28-09-2012 1:46am

Ton Cary of the Telegraph tweeted this, Hamilton to replace Schumacher. Ross Brawn told me today Rosberg "100 per cent will be with us next year"

Inbox · 28-09-2012 1:47am

Ton Cary of the Telegraph tweeted this, Hamilton to replace Schumacher. Ross Brawn told me today Rosberg "100 per cent will be with us next year"

I will be sad to see schumi go

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