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Garden Moths 2012

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    #92
    Mothman
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    thebishop wrote: »
    Id please.Only got the one pic before it decided it would rather be somewhere else.Thinking White -pinion spotted?Its a bit worn.
    It is, a local species in Ireland

    and Cardinal, that is a Cinnabar


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    #93
    Mothman
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    Half-cocked wrote: »
    Probably mad taking on micros when I'm still struggling with macros....
    Not at all.

    Start slowly, just dealing with the micros that there seem to be plenty of. it may be only 20 species in the first year, but its the foundation to tackling far more species the following year.

    It certainly does not have to be all or nothing.


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    #94
    Half-cocked
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    Mothman wrote: »
    Not at all.

    Start slowly, just dealing with the micros that there seem to be plenty of. it may be only 20 species in the first year, but its the foundation to tackling far more species the following year.

    It certainly does not have to be all or nothing.

    I don't seem to catch many micros anyway - are a lot of them not attracted to light?


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    #95
    thebishop
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    Min temp 12c on friday night.Good few moths about at last. Still got a few micros to Id,will wait till the book arrives next week:).
    Common Carpet x 1
    Green carpet x 1
    Flame carpet x 1
    Popular Hawk-moth x 1
    Pepperd moth x 2
    Light brown apple moth x 3
    Flame shoulder x 7
    Clouded border x 1
    White-pinion spotted x 1
    20 Plumed moth x 1
    Spectacle x 1
    Gold spot x 2
    Scalloped hazel x 4
    Buff Ermine x 1
    Pale Prominent x 1
    Common Quaker x 1
    Brown Silver-line x 2
    Syndemis Musculana x 1
    As things were so good on friday night I decided to put the trap out again on Sat night. Had 5 White Ermine on Sat and none on GMS night.plus 3 Popular Hawks and 1 Elephant Hawkmoth.1 Pussmoth and prob most of the ones I had the night before and a few I havnt got around to checking yet.
    Elephant Hawkmoth.
    IMG_6969.jpg
    Pussmoth.

    IMG_6992-1.jpg

    IMG_6988-1.jpg


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    #96
    Half-cocked
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    Got a new species for my garden last night - Green Carpet. I was a bit surprized I hadn't got one there before, I've trapped them elsewhere. So far this year I've also added Common Swift, Rustic Shoulder-knot and Least Black Arches to my garden list. I wonder if the mild winter has anything to do with this? It will be interesting to see how many more new species turn up over the Summer.

    Also got these 3 micros some one (Mothman!) might be able to ID, all about 10mm long:

    picture.php?albumid=1912&pictureid=12961

    picture.php?albumid=1912&pictureid=12962

    picture.php?albumid=1912&pictureid=12963


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    #97
    Mothman
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    Half-cocked wrote: »

    Also got these 3 micros some one (Mothman!) might be able to ID, all about 10mm long:
    Scoparia ambigualis
    Blastobasis lacticolella
    Hofmannophila pseudospretella, Brown House-moth


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    #98
    littlebug
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    I put the actinic out last night. I had it in a more sheltered place than usual and it really seems less bright than before (though maybe that's because I'm used to the mv now:confused:).
    6 x Garden Carpet (don't they move fast once disturbed)
    1x Brimstone
    1x Clouded Bordered Brindle
    1x Clouded Drab

    and this below.. is it a twin spot carpet?
    4BF30FA9C564476EA62612EDB91DBC67-0000331913-0002876194-00500L-43FE48F61C294E27A6CB4AA6BF784973.jpg


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    #99
    Mothman
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    littlebug wrote: »

    and this below.. is it a twin spot carpet?
    Its a Common Marbled Carpet...very variable species!


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    #100
    littlebug
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    Mothman wrote: »
    Its a Common Marbled Carpet...very variable species!

    :D and this ones even more variable than the variations in my book just to confuse me!
    The carpets are terribly pretty little things. I like to see them but they do move fast once disturbed at all. I only managed a photo of one of this mornings 6 garden carpets before they took off!


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    #101
    Mothman
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    You need to be up earlier :pac: when its cooler and then they are not so flighty


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    #102
    Half-cocked
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    Just put the trap out and got a new species for the garden straight away:

    Iron Prominent:D

    picture.php?albumid=1912&pictureid=12985


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    #103
    Half-cocked
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    17 species caught last night in the rain. Need help with these 2:

    A Common or Wormwood Pug?

    picture.php?albumid=1912&pictureid=12988

    and this, about 10mm long:

    picture.php?albumid=1912&pictureid=12989

    Also got my first Silver Y of the year:

    picture.php?albumid=1912&pictureid=12986


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    #104
    Mothman
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    Half-cocked wrote: »
    17 species caught last night in the rain. Need help with these 2:

    A Common or Wormwood Pug?
    Common, which usually has small or absent discal spot, Wormwood has a distinct spot

    and this, about 10mm long:
    Another Brown House-moth :)


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    #105
    Half-cocked
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    Mothman wrote: »
    Another Brown House-moth :)

    Looks nothing like the last one! Obviously a very variable species, evolved to confuse moth trappers;)


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    #106
    littlebug
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    Sorry bad photos today... was in a hurry and it was raining!

    Is this a Small Square Spot?
    [IMG][/img]A2E5F2153BE14BCD8FA16C93B777B75E-0000331913-0002879087-00500L-6FA1012823D048958B7453557A6DB268.jpg

    And this :confused: I'm coming up with too many possibilities! I think I'd left the flash on there so may look paler that it was.
    [IMG][/img]83C895662C3148719F2CB28D043905BC-0000331913-0002879088-00500L-4EAEE430913D4879AE3FC1F1D297A8FE.jpg

    Different moth but maybe the same?
    [IMG][/img]CA5D73597B064A41BBCE9CC0FA848B6B-0000331913-0002879086-00500L-686A54D260BB4735834031722DEAD24D.jpg


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    #107
    Mothman
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    littlebug wrote: »
    Sorry bad photos today... was in a hurry and it was raining!

    Is this a Small Square Spot?
    Yes
    And this confused.gif I'm coming up with too many possibilities! I think I'd left the flash on there so may look paler that it was.


    Different moth but maybe the same?
    Both Rustic Shoulder-knot
    This is the answer to so many id requests at this time of year. It just isn't as strongly marked as the other species about at moment. But the shoulder mark can be seen in both your pics.


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    #108
    Mothman
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    Half-cocked wrote: »
    Looks nothing like the last one! Obviously a very variable species, evolved to confuse moth trappers;)
    Just a dark and a light one, the latter probably a bit worn as well, but the dots which are obvious in the light specimen can be seen in the dark one.


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    #109
    littlebug
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    Good catch last night :) with 40 moths of 21 species.

    648 White Shouldered House Moth
    1376 Small Magpie
    1727 Silver Ground Carpet
    1728 Garden Carpet x5
    1764 Common Marbled Carpet
    1834 Common Pug
    1904 Scorched Wing
    1906 Brimstone
    1958 Clouded Silver
    1992 Small Elephant Hawk Moth
    2060 White ermine
    2061 Buff Ermine
    2120 Ingrailed Clay x2
    2123 Small Square Spot x 2
    2147 Shears
    2326 Clouded Bordered Brindle x9
    2334 Rustic Shoulder Knot x 6
    2337x Marbled Minor
    2380 Treble Lines
    2422 Beautiful Golden y
    2449 Dark Spectacle

    + 2 cockchafers + 1 Sexton Beetle (necrodes litteralis I think)
    plus a few wings in the trap :( Do beetles eat moths?


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    #110
    Half-cocked
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    Great catch LB!

    Mine was pretty poor, not worth listing here.

    Is this a Broken-barred Carpet?

    picture.php?albumid=1912&pictureid=13005


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    #111
    thebishop
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    Id please. Not even sure if its a Moth. its 0.75MM nose to tail.
    IMG_7089.jpg

    Would this be a Dingy Shell?
    IMG_6979.jpg

    Another micro. Thanks
    IMG_7082.jpg


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    #112
    thebishop
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    Good few moths about on Friday night. 10c. Rain later in the night.
    Evergestis Forficalis x 1
    Flame Shoulder x 5
    White Ermine x 5
    Buff Ermine x 3
    Clouded Border x 1
    Pale Tussock x 1
    Light Brown Apple Moth x 3
    Peach Blossom x 2
    Garden Grass Veneer x 1
    Spectacle x 2
    Pebble Prominent x 1
    Peppered Moth x 1
    Scalloped Hazel x 4
    Brown House Moth x 1
    Poplar Hawk Moth x 1
    Twin-spot Carpet x 1
    Common Carpet x 1
    Clouded -border Brindle x 2
    Brown Silverline x 1
    Heart and Dart x 1
    Beauty Golden Y x 2
    Common Pug x 1
    Plus the ones above.


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    #113
    Half-cocked
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    Risked putting the trap out for a few hours last night, caught a Scalloped Hazel, 2 Hearts & Darts and my first Dark Arches of the year.


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    #114
    littlebug
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    put the actinic out last night. Up bright and early to get it in before the rain started :)

    Clouded Bordered Brindle x 9
    Rustic Shoulder Knot x 2
    Peppered Moth x 2
    1 x Small Angle Shades

    plus 1 big micro or small macro that I haven't identified yet :)

    With the small angle shades I wondered if my marbled minor from Friday was mis-identified.


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    #115
    littlebug
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    empty trap this morning which surprised me since it was a relatively mild night though I suppose a bit cooler.


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    #116
    Mothman
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    Half-cocked wrote: »
    Great catch LB!

    Mine was pretty poor, not worth listing here.

    Is this a Broken-barred Carpet?
    Yes
    thebishop wrote: »
    Id please. Not even sure if its a Moth. its 0.75MM nose to tail.
    Obviously 7.5mm :)
    I think it is a moth and possibly a Coleophora species, most of which need dissecting to ID.
    Would this be a Dingy Shell?
    No, I had a number of Lead Belle last weekend which had wings closed. This could be another
    Another micro. Thanks
    I think Hedya species, need better photo :) easier said than done!


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    #117
    Mothman
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    littlebug wrote: »
    empty trap this morning which surprised me since it was a relatively mild night though I suppose a bit cooler.
    The incessant wet often results in empty traps :(
    Too windy with me to run trap last night. Will put it on tonight.


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    #118
    thebishop
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    ![/QUOTE]
    Obviously 7.5mm :)
    I think it is a moth and possibly a Coleophora species, most of which need dissecting to ID.!![/QUOTE]
    No it was 0.75mm just about able to see with the naked eye:) Had to put an ext tube on the macro lense to get pic.Wouldnt be easy to dissect at that size:)


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    #119
    Mothman
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    thebishop wrote: »

    No it was 0.75mm just about able to see with the naked eye:) Had to put an ext tube on the macro lense to get pic.Wouldnt be easy to dissect at that size:)
    Then not a moth, there are no known moths that small....


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    #120
    thebishop
    Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    Cold and windy here last night. Easy to count the moths this moring.
    Buff Ermine x 2.
    White Ermine x 2
    Flame Shoulder x 1
    Small Square-spot x 1
    Gold Spot x 1
    IMG_7059.jpg

    Had the trap in a friends garden last week,got this Green Silver-lines.


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    #121
    Half-cocked
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    Wet and windy here, 9.5 deg C.

    1 x Scalloped Hazel
    3 x Heart & Dart
    1 x Marbled Minor agg
    1 x Turnip Moth (I think -pic below)

    picture.php?albumid=1912&pictureid=13053


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