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Formula 1 2014: Round 19 - Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

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    #32
    Charlie-Bravo
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    Is alcohol advertisement banned over there? Don't see any Martini branding on Williams.

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    #33
    [Deleted User]
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    astrofluff wrote: »
    Is alcohol advertisement banned over there? Don't see any Martini branding on Williams.

    Pretty sure it is. Rosewater on the podium and all.


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    #34
    lolie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭lolie


    Pretty poor from ferrari.
    Fail to win tomorrow and it's first time season since 1980 they've failed to win a race.


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    #35
    Jordan 199
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    lolie wrote: »
    Pretty poor from ferrari.
    Fail to win tomorrow and it's first time season since 1980 they've failed to win a race.

    Don't forget the 1993 season when they didn't win any races. Same for 1992 and 1991.


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    #36
    Mike Litoris
    Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭Mike Litoris


    lolie wrote: »
    Pretty poor from ferrari.
    Fail to win tomorrow and it's first time season since 1980 they've failed to win a race.

    Heard that comment on BBC and thought it was wrong. Maybe they meant podium? Did a Ferrari not podium this year?


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    #37
    Mike Litoris
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    Just checked, Alonso did in China and Hungary.


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    #38
    Peanut Butter Jelly
    Registered Users Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭Peanut Butter Jelly


    Mike Litoris wrote: »
    Heard that comment on BBC and thought it was wrong. Maybe they meant podium? Did a Ferrari not podium this year?

    It was that if McLaren or Ferrari don't win tomorrow, it will be the first season that neither has since 1980.


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    #39
    Tippex
    Registered Users Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Tippex


    I've watched that JB interview on sky and I don't believe this is his last race in F1. I just have this feeling we will defo be seeing him next year. I have no logical reasoning apart from a hunch / gut feeling.


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    #40
    mickdw
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    Tippex wrote: »
    I've watched that JB interview on sky and I don't believe this is his last race in F1. I just have this feeling we will defo be seeing him next year. I have no logical reasoning apart from a hunch / gut feeling.

    Hopefully.
    Disgraceful treatment of a world champ either way.


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    #41
    lolie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭lolie


    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    Don't forget the 1993 season when they didn't win any races. Same for 1992 and 1991.

    Oops, must have misheard them :o
    Peanut butterjelly cleared it up, should have checked b4 posting.


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    #42
    Glico Man
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    Red Bull's cars have been declared illegal apparently due to too much flex in the front wings.


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    #43
    Going Strong
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    Tippex wrote: »
    I've watched that JB interview on sky and I don't believe this is his last race in F1. I just have this feeling we will defo be seeing him next year. I have no logical reasoning apart from a hunch / gut feeling.

    I got the same feeling from his comments to Coulthard on BBC. He alluded to this being a "sad" season when talking about the death of his father and seemed to hint that it was his final F1 season.


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    #44
    HighLine
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    Both Red Bulls excluded from quali but allowed to start from back of grid tomorrow.


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    #45
    [Deleted User]
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    At least it gives the Williams a clear-ish run at the Mercs. And Button with a squeak of a podium.


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    #46
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,102 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Coincidentally McLaren decided not to run their RBR inspired front wing in quali, was slower than the previous one apparentlly.


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    #47
    PukkaStukka
    Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    Red Bull's cars have been declared illegal apparently due to too much flex in the front wings.

    I was watching the highlights of FP2 this morning and nose camera footage from the Williams showed clear deflection of the front wings on the straights, and when the driver braked, the wing rose up to resume its original position. I'm surprised this wasn't commented on as I suspect this was boderline in terms of legality.


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    #48
    PukkaStukka
    Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    Don't forget the 1993 season when they didn't win any races. Same for 1992 and 1991.

    Correct! Prost won Spain 1990 and the next win Ferrari had was Hochenheim 1994 with Berger, a race made infamous by Verstappens Benneton engulfing itself during refueling.


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    #49
    Frank Bullitt
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    Another one.

    If Raikkonen doesn't beat K-Mag for 10th in the championship, it will be the worse season by a full-time Ferrari driver since Didier Pironi in 1981.


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    #50
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,266 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    From twitter.
    Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperF1 5m5 minutes ago
    Re the RBR wing flaps, I'm told the FIA discovered a leaf spring arrangement encased in a rubber shroud


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    #51
    Infoanon
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    Gintonious wrote: »
    From twitter.

    RBR are also claiming that they have been singled out but apparently 4 teams had their wings checked.


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    #52
    Frank Bullitt
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    Infoanon wrote: »
    RBR are also claiming that they have been singled out but apparently 4 teams had their wings checked.

    Force India, Williams are names that were mentioned, so RB aren't being singled out. Odd though that it only shows its head at the last race.


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    #53
    mickdw
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    PukkaStukka wrote: »
    I was watching the highlights of FP2 this morning and nose camera footage from the Williams showed clear deflection of the front wings on the straights, and when the driver braked, the wing rose up to resume its original position. I'm surprised this wasn't commented on as I suspect this was boderline in terms of legality.

    Scarbsf1 has tweeted footage of the Williams wing deflection. Looks pretty reasonable to me. It would appear the fault is in the rules that don't require a more rigid stricture.
    Redbull on the other hand using some form of hidden spring is very dodgy. Of itself fitting a spring in a linear capacity wouldn't be of benefit over flexing materials. The spring must be working in conjunction with trick components to circumvent the movable aero rules.


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    #54
    PukkaStukka
    Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    More on RBR's leaf spring in the wing:

    http://www.f1technical.net/news/19827?sid=50710839f1d75018441f8ce5b75a2ec4


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    #55
    Charlie-Bravo
    Registered Users Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Unbelievable, RB are real cheating backstards. They're rotten to the core with that sort of stuff. In fact, fair play to Vettle for jumping ship - that's probably the only decent comment I'll give him!

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    #56
    PukkaStukka
    Registered Users Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Found this brilliant quip on Twitter earlier:
    Twitter wrote:
    Red Bull gives you springs!


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    #57
    Cookie_Monster
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    that's just plain cheating rather than probing the boundaries. should be much more severe penalty for that kind of thing.


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    #58
    lolie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭lolie


    Adam Parr seems to think Red Bull are in for much bigger punishment.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/adam_s_parr/status/536285223433302016

    If they did get thrown out then does it mean vettel still hasn't been beaten at Red Bull by a teammate.


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    #59
    Frank Bullitt
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    This could be a fairly hefty issue for RB.


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    #60
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,266 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    Coincidentally McLaren decided not to run their RBR inspired front wing in quali, was slower than the previous one apparentlly.

    Haha, well it was a copy of the RB wing, so it would make sense for them to not run it :rolleyes:


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    #61
    frostie500
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    Here's some photos from yesterday at Abu Dhabi....
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