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Why are all Maynooth trains stopping at Pearse

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  • 04-11-2011 8:03pm
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    n97 mini
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    My daughter has two weeks work to do south of Lansdowne station and was planning on getting the 8-ish o'clock train which used to run all the way through to Bray. While all DARTs are running to Grand Canal Dock that train now terminates at Pearse. Why not Grand Canal Dock?

    Any idea why this is? Is there any operational reason, or is it just poor customer service (again)


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    meanmachine3
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    this will explain everything mini.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056434202


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    n97 mini
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Doesn't explain why Darts go to Grand Canal Dock and DMUs don't (does it? did I miss something?)


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    foggy_lad
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    n97 mini wrote: »
    Doesn't explain why Darts go to Grand Canal Dock and DMUs don't (does it? did I miss something?)
    Having the commuters running to Grand Canal Dock would probably clog up the station there too much and bring the service to a complete standstill as not only do thay have to stop there but there is a procedure for going in the opposite direction which takes a certain time and it is probably not possible to cater for all trains and darts.


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    Cookie_Monster
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    Capacity I would imagine


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    RichieD
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    Dont all or most of the Maynooth trains terminate at Pearse anyway?

    Nothing to do with bad customer service.


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    RichieD
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    Capacity I would imagine

    Yeah they have the big sidetrack thing between Pearse and Grand Canal for tunrarounds.

    There's no need to run the intercity services to grand canal really.

    And to be honest its only about a 5 minute walk between Pearse and Grand Canal anyway.


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    n97 mini
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    RichieD wrote: »
    Dont all or most of the Maynooth trains terminate at Pearse anyway?
    No, some (used to) go on to Bray which I said in the first line of the first post on this thread.
    RichieD wrote: »
    And to be honest its only about a 5 minute walk between Pearse and Grand Canal anyway.
    Did you read my original post at all? She's working south of Lansdowne, so a 10 minute walk from Lansdowne has become a 25 minute walk from Pearse, instead of a 20 minute walk that DART customers get.


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    corktina
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    n97 mini wrote: »
    Doesn't explain why Darts go to Grand Canal Dock and DMUs don't (does it? did I miss something?)

    whats a DMU?


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    LXFlyer
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    DMU = Diesel Multiple Unit.

    Simple answer to the OPs question is lack of capacity - the Maynooth/Drogheda trains turn around either in Pearse or in the sidings between Pearse and Grand Canal Dock.


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    stop
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    n97 mini wrote: »
    RichieD wrote: »
    Dont all or most of the Maynooth trains terminate at Pearse anyway?
    No, some (used to) go on to Bray which I said in the first line of the first post on this thread.
    RichieD wrote: »
    And to be honest its only about a 5 minute walk between Pearse and Grand Canal anyway.
    Did you read my original post at all? She's working south of Lansdowne, so a 10 minute walk from Lansdowne has become a 25 minute walk from Pearse, instead of a 20 minute walk that DART customers get.

    So essentially what you are complaining about is a 5 minute walk?


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    corktina
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    lxflyer wrote: »
    DMU = Diesel Multiple Unit.

    .

    oh we have them do we? Like they have in the Uk then?:rolleyes:


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    kc56
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭kc56


    corktina wrote: »
    oh we have them do we? Like they have in the Uk then?:rolleyes:

    All IE passenger trains, apart from DART, Enterprise and Dub-Cork CAF Mk4 sets are DMUs even the 22000 ICRs.

    Each carraige in a DMU has its own engine and transmission.


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    corktina
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    you think I dont know that?:D


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    LXFlyer
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    corktina wrote: »
    you think I dont know that?:D

    So what exactly is your point?


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    BostonB
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    RichieD wrote: »
    ...And to be honest its only about a 5 minute walk between Pearse and Grand Canal anyway.


    Its 10~15 mins, and its 20~25 mins from Pearse to Lansdowne.

    I get the train from Coolmine to Grand Canal sometimes and the direct one used to save a lot of time. I don't think there is one in the other direction. When you consider you've got to walk to the station and from it, then wait for the train, and perhaps a change to the dart. It can add another 30mins or more to the journey.

    As a result its usually quicker (for me) to cycle from Coolmine to Grand canal. The train isn't that nice, usually don't get a seat, usually overcrowded. No shelter from weather at stations.


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    Niles
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    What about just waiting for a following DART at Pearse, and getting that to GCD? Seems to be possible without too much of a wait according to the journey planner, link.

    (Maynooth service gets into Pearse @ 8:45, following DART @ 8:51, arr. Grand Canal Dock @ 8:53)


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    kingshankly
    Registered Users Posts: 7,531 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    most maynoth trains terminate in pearse with the few exceptions and as pearse has a yard which can stable 4 trains it make more sense to terminate in pearse .
    say it ran to grand canal like you want he would have to wait for available platform at grand canal,on arrival switch ends and head back to pearse when a platform becomes available, the switch ends again to head in to pearse yard while blocking up pearse again while waiting for the signal to clear to cross the road to the yard.
    or just terminate in pearse and let passengers get a dart which is probably not to far behind.


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