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    #92
    C4d78
    Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭C4d78


    Username John wrote: »
    I feel like I'm kinda gate-crashing this thread a small bit ;)

    But I have a Q and I think ye might be the lads to help me.

    What would the DMD of good spring grass be now?
    I have my few in-lamb ewes on a good field of grass, and I don't want to over feed em. So just wondering what the feed value in good grass is.

    Thanks.

    Approx mid 80's DMD


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    #93
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    http://www.agriland.ie/news/make-sure-cows-hungry-let-grass/


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    #94
    whelan2
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    whats the soil temp like now?


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    #95
    Greengrass1
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    whats the soil temp like now?

    5.5-6.5 here yesterday morning


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    #96
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    http://www.agriland.ie/news/make-sure-cows-hungry-let-grass/

    Fine line between starvation and 'hungry' imo. I can't work on an empty stomach lol


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    #97
    just do it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Cow Porter wrote: »
    Fine line between starvation and 'hungry' imo. I can't work on an empty stomach lol

    Do you need to eat between going to bed and having breakfast?! From what I read that's all he's advocating


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    #98
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    just do it wrote: »
    Do you need to eat between going to bed and having breakfast?! From what I read that's all he's advocating

    The advice in the article is good, just saying I'd rather not have cows starving. Ok they need an appetite to manage the grass but it's a balancing act, have to feed the cow too. Saw cows standing at a gap yesterday from 2pm. - Fair enough busy time etc. Passed another place and he was after bringing them in to buffer before milking. This is covered in the article saying cows still need to be fully fed in the day.


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    #99
    frazzledhome
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    Cow Porter wrote: »
    The advice in the article is good, just saying I'd rather not have cows starving. Ok they need an appetite to manage the grass but it's a balancing act, have to feed the cow too. Saw cows standing at a gap yesterday from 2pm. - Fair enough busy time etc. Passed another place and he was after bringing them in to buffer before milking. This is covered in the article saying cows still need to be fully fed in the day.

    Our cows are at the gap at 2.30 every day let in stand in yard milked at 4 back out but for some reason never at gap in morning, I think their trying it on?


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    #100
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    A few Kerry figures...

    AFC 921, Demand 26, Growth 5, PGY 1000 Meal 2kgs.

    Last years total 14.28t DM/ha


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    #101
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,078 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Our cows are at the gap at 2.30 every day let in stand in yard milked at 4 back out but for some reason never at gap in morning, I think their trying it on?
    they must be reading agriland:)


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    #102
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Our cows are at the gap at 2.30 every day let in stand in yard milked at 4 back out but for some reason never at gap in morning, I think their trying it on?

    To be fair these were a different breed of cow to yours - higher intake needed.
    Sure aren't they all asleep at night......lol


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    #103
    Brown Podzol
    Registered Users Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    just do it wrote: »
    Do you need to eat between going to bed and having breakfast?! From what I read that's all he's advocating

    A cow giving 25lts uses the same amount of energy relative to a human running the marathon. Do this every day and then find the energy to go in calf. This is what separates the men from the boys. A balancing act between grazing out and energy intake taking into account dry matters etc.


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    #104
    just do it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    A cow giving 25lts uses the same amount of energy relative to a human running the marathon. Do this every day and then find the energy to go in calf. This is what separates the men from the boys. A balancing act between grazing out and energy intake taking into account dry matters etc.

    I've ran a few marathons but thankfully have never had to go in-calf :).


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    #105
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    A few Kerry figures...

    AFC 921, Demand 26, Growth 5, PGY 1000 Meal 2kgs.

    Last years total 14.28t DM/ha
    :o

    I should have put down that they were kerry average figures, not mine.

    I'd be a bit behind those figures and even further behind last year.


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    #106
    [Deleted User]
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    Just wondering would anyone recommend a soil thermometer or will I just buy a standard one like this. http://www.grasstecgroup.com/product/standard-soil-thermometer/


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    #107
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    Cow Porter wrote: »
    The advice in the article is good, just saying I'd rather not have cows starving. Ok they need an appetite to manage the grass but it's a balancing act, have to feed the cow too. Saw cows standing at a gap yesterday from 2pm. - Fair enough busy time etc. Passed another place and he was after bringing them in to buffer before milking. This is covered in the article saying cows still need to be fully fed in the day.

    Should have kept my gob shut.... Cows in later than 'they should be' today.... Unforeseen circumstances lol


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    #108
    trixi2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    one benefit of living in a country dominated by high input dairy farming is the meal companies offer a service of doing herbage test on grass so farmers can adjust their tmr when grass is included. so this week we got our puzzled sales man out (usually clients aren't grazing till may/june) and took samples from 10 paddocks ranging from 500-2000 cutting samples to the dirt so not just leaf. The results were quite surprising
    Cp = 20-24
    Dm= 20-25
    Me=11.9-12.7
    the highest cover sample had a me of 11.7 dry matter of 25 and a cp of 24 I would of assumed it would of tested a lot poorer than this


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    #109
    just do it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Just wondering would anyone recommend a soil thermometer or will I just buy a standard one like this. http://www.grasstecgroup.com/product/standard-soil-thermometer/

    Thinking along the same lines, its a good thing to have alright.


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    #110
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    just do it wrote: »
    Thinking along the same lines, its a good thing to have alright.

    I use a regular meat one


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    #111
    td5man
    Registered Users Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    I use a regular meat one

    Same here, it needs to be long enough to go 3-4 inches into the ground.


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    #112
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    td5man wrote: »
    Same here, it needs to be long enough to go 3-4 inches into the ground.

    Exactly one you stick up a turkeys hole


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    #113
    Muckit
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    just do it wrote: »
    I've ran a few marathons but thankfully have never had to go in-calf :).

    That's not what I heard. You were supposed to have calved after crossing the finish line!! :D


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    #114
    darragh_haven
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Exactly one you stick up a turkeys hole

    Would it have to be a turkeys hole! Would any out foul be acceptable


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    #115
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    darragh_haven wrote: »
    Would it have to be a turkeys hole! Would any out foul be acceptable

    I think you may mean fowl, but it was funny all the same :):)


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    #116
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    How much area have ye all grazex . 16% here this morning.
    I'll be around 32% by 1st march


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    #117
    Milked out
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    How much area have ye all grazex . 16% here this morning.
    I'll be around 32% by 1st march

    Only at 9% here yet, rain yday has stopped us for a few days will go back out to lighter covers when it dries up.


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    #118
    Greengrass1
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    Milked out wrote: »
    Only at 9% here yet, rain yday has stopped us for a few days will go back out to lighter covers when it dries up.

    Grazed a wet paddock last two days.
    It's destryed now. Possibly looks better than what it is. Happenes it every yr.
    Will have to get it drained again


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    #119
    Milked out
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Grazed a wet paddock last two days.
    It's destryed now. Possibly looks better than what it is. Happenes it every yr.
    Will have to get it drained again

    I was trying to get thru some of the wet ground b4 the rain came as well, just about managed it on for 4 hrs and off again. More marking the ground than poaching so to speak I hope anyway. Was annoyed when they broke out the other day as there is no going back in they.d only walk around and do more damage b4 settling


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    #120
    freedominacup
    Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    How much area have ye all grazex . 16% here this morning.
    I'll be around 32% by 1st march

    20% here as of today. Aiming for 30% by 1st of March. Allocations getting bigger from tomorrow. Should be fully at grass by 1st. Actually think it might need to be sooner.


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    #121
    Greengrass1
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    freedominacup wrote: »
    20% here as of today. Aiming for 30% by 1st of March. Allocations getting bigger from tomorrow. Should be fully at grass by 1st. Actually think it might need to be sooner.

    Your covering fair area by only being out by day free.
    I'm wondering will silage have to go back in here for march high demand then and those old leys and that reseed might grow feck all till grazed


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