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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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    #122
    Mountainlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    SeaFields wrote: »
    wasnt too much of a problem last september when they were bringing sam home :pac:



    Tony Considine's article in the examiner today will have been a sobering read for many of the cork panel and management. Cut them to pieces basically and told them to go.

    Considine has nothing better to do than this. He is probably bitter that his poor managerial performance has taken away from his credibility as an all-ireland winning selector. I don't like his articles, he comes across as very spiteful all to often. The demise of Cork is greatly exaggerated. Every team needs time to rebuild. I mean just look at the players that were on the Tipp 21s team last year that Cork should have beaten; Paudie Maher, Brendan Maher, Bonner Maher, John O Keefe, Noel McGrath, Michael Cahill. And they'd a good team around that as well. This year all those players are overage. They were very unconvincing in the end against a Waterford side that has 12 or 13 players available again next year and 7 the year after and two of those that started are still minor! Add in the fact that Brian O Halloran is injured and some bad refereeing decisions (the fact that we were down to 14 for most of the second half) and Tipp will have asked serious questions of themselves. If this Cork team are good, which I believe they are, they should win on Friday and who knows what they could achieve after that! You could be seeing things in a completely different light altogether come the end of the year.


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    #123
    Show Time
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    Rebel1977 wrote: »
    Cusack/Gardiner/Kenny/Ben/Jerry/Cussen/Fraggy/O'Neill /Curran should all go
    All they will be remembered for at this point is strike after strike.


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    #124
    premierstone
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    Mountainlad wrote: »
    I mean just look at the players that were on the Tipp 21s team last year that Cork should have beaten; Paudie Maher, Brendan Maher, Bonner Maher, John O Keefe, Noel McGrath, Michael Cahill. And they'd a good team around that as well. This year all those players are overage.

    Noel McGrath is underage, as are 7 of the team that started last years AI final.


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    #125
    premierstone
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    Show Time wrote: »
    All they will be remembered for at this point is strike after strike.

    Donal Og, Gardner, Curran and the two o'Connors will also be remembered as some of the finest players of their generation who changed how the game was played.


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    #126
    Mountainlad
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    premierstone wrote: »
    Noel McGrath is underage, as are 7 of the team that started last years AI final.

    Sorry he is and captain, got a bit ahead of myself. Yeah but you were at the game, it's hard to say they were convincing. I mean John O Neill was very good and some of the backs played well, Curran is a good hurler, but they are certainly nothing like last years team.


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    #127
    Show Time
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    premierstone wrote: »
    Donal Og, Gardner, Curran and the two o'Connors will also be remembered as some of the finest players of their generation who changed how the game was played.
    And instead of cementing that legacy season after season was spent fighting with the Co Board and management whenever a toy was thrown from the pram.


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    #128
    premierstone
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    Mountainlad wrote: »
    Sorry he is and captain, got a bit ahead of myself. Yeah but you were at the game, it's hard to say they were convincing. I mean John O Neill was very good and some of the backs played well, Curran is a good hurler, but they are certainly nothing like last years team.

    No but tbf last years team was a bit of an exception, yeah I was at the Waterford game, our backs are poor imo the Corner Back Haugh is the only one that will make it to senior, possibly Brian Stapelton, the forwards are very good and 4 of them have been on the Tipp senior panel already


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    #129
    Mountainlad
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    premierstone wrote: »
    No but tbf last years team was a bit of an exception, yeah I was at the Waterford game, our backs are poor imo the Corner Back Haugh is the only one that will make it to senior, possibly Brian Stapelton, the forwards are very good and 4 of them have been on the Tipp senior panel already

    Paddy Murphy was poor enough the last day. O'Meara works in fits and starts, very good at times but not consistent. Bubbles was kept well under wraps by a 17 year old, though he is a very good player. Who was the other half forward I'm forgetting?


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    #130
    premierstone
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    Show Time wrote: »
    And instead of cementing that legacy season after season was spent fighting with the Co Board and management whenever a toy was thrown from the pram.

    I agree that the strikes went too far and have left a bitter sweet feeling over that crop of players but to suggest that that is all they will ever be rembered for is not true, now Sean Og is a different story :D


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    #131
    premierstone
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    Mountainlad wrote: »
    Paddy Murphy was poor enough the last day. O'Meara works in fits and starts, very good at times but not consistent. Bubbles was kept well under wraps by a 17 year old, though he is a very good player. Who was the other half forward I'm forgetting?

    Paddy Murphy is extremely frustrating player very hot and cold was about to be subbed last year against Clare in the munster final next thing he scored 6 points from play in about ten minutes, Buggy O'Meara is not reaching the level he was at last year at all and seems to be carrying a bit of weight from what i've seen of him, Bubbles is an arrogant moody sort of a young lad he could score 1-10 from play or he could be taken off at HT.

    The 6 forwards were Curran, Murphy, O'Meara, Bubbles, Adrian Ryan, and Johnno Neill. Buggy and Ryan switched. Whats lacking there is a real match winner if Tipp were struggling all lovely hurlers on their day but you#d worry about any of them diggin Tipp out of a hole.


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    #132
    Mountainlad
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    Do you know how many Cork have from last year? I know Egan is still there, are McLoughlin and McCarthy? Jamie Coughlan was good against Waterford last year and there is alot of talk about this Lehane lad.


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    #133
    premierstone
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    Mountainlad wrote: »
    Do you know how many Cork have from last year? I know Egan is still there, are McLoughlin and McCarthy? Jamie Coughlan was good against Waterford last year and there is alot of talk about this Lehane lad.

    Yeah Egan is still eligle, Aidan Walsh is playing, Coughlan, Lehane, O'Farrell, Nagle, and watch out for Drake he is definitely one for the new Cork Senior management to look at. Their FB line is shakey but other than that a pretty strong and balanced team.


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    #134
    Mountainlad
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    Should be a very good game anyway. As should the Clare v Limerick game. Maybe Clare will be buoyed by the minors success but if you ask me I think Limerick have a good chance in this one.


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    #135
    Orizio
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    Show Time wrote: »
    All they will be remembered for at this point is strike after strike.

    Only by bitter half-wits.


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    #136
    Orizio
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    Mountainlad wrote: »
    Do you know how many Cork have from last year? I know Egan is still there, are McLoughlin and McCarthy? Jamie Coughlan was good against Waterford last year and there is alot of talk about this Lehane lad.

    McLoughlin and McCarthy are overage, but we have a stronger team this year then last. I'm guessing the team will be...

    Darren Mac (B'Martle)

    B. Withers (Duhallow somewhere) Finn (B'Hassig) S. Corry (B'Martle)

    Nagle (Midleton) Egan (Kilbrin) Ellis (Millstreet)

    Roche (Sars) S. O'Farrell (Midleton)

    Drake (Carrigaline) Lehane (Midleton) Brosnan (The Glen)

    M. O'Sullivan (Tracton) L. O'Farrell (Midleton) Coughlan (Newtown)

    If we hold Tipp's full-forward line we'll win, but thats a very big ask.


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    #137
    Indie.
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    Orizio wrote: »
    B. Withers (Duhallow somewhere)
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    From Banteer.

    I personally think that Ellis will start at center back as he would be more suited to marking Paddy Murphy who is a big man


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    #138
    premierstone
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    Orizio wrote: »
    McLoughlin and McCarthy are overage, but we have a stronger team this year then last. I'm guessing the team will be...

    Darren Mac (B'Martle)

    B. Withers (Duhallow somewhere) Finn (B'Hassig) S. Corry (B'Martle)

    Nagle (Midleton) Egan (Kilbrin) Ellis (Millstreet)

    Roche (Sars) S. O'Farrell (Midleton)

    Drake (Carrigaline) Lehane (Midleton) Brosnan (The Glen)

    M. O'Sullivan (Tracton) L. O'Farrell (Midleton) Coughlan (Newtown)

    If we hold Tipp's full-forward line we'll win, but thats a very big ask.


    Will Aidan Walsh not start do you think?


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    #139
    Show Time
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    Orizio wrote: »
    Only by bitter half-wits.
    Cork could have been the team of the decade only for all the infighting caused by the stars of the team. Mark my words in 40 odd years time the likes of Sean Og will only be remembered for what money he could make from handing out awards to underage East Cork players.


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    #140
    Orizio
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    premierstone wrote: »
    Will Aidan Walsh not start do you think?

    Either him or Drake, tbh I have no idea how much hurling has has done over the last few months. It would probably be prudent to keep him on the bench but there is a good chance he'll start as another primary ballwinner because of the above team only Brosnan and Lehane are decent in the air.


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    #141
    willietherock
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    Show Time wrote: »
    Cork could have been the team of the decade only for all the infighting caused by the stars of the team. Mark my words in 40 odd years time the likes of Sean Og will only be remembered for what money he could make from handing out awards to underage East Cork players.


    I bet your mother is proud of you.


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    #142
    Show Time
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    willietherock wrote: »
    I bet your mother is proud of you.
    What has that got to do with the state Cork hurling is in?

    Major changes needed especially at the top table of the Co Board and selectors and management. Is the overhaul of the underage in full swing yet?


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    #143
    Orizio
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    willietherock wrote: »
    I bet your mother is proud of you.

    Ignore the troll.


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    #144
    Show Time
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    Orizio wrote: »
    Ignore the troll.
    Truth hurts eh?


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    #145
    Orizio
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    http://corkgaa.wordpress.com/2011/07/13/galway-2-23-cork-1-14-all-ireland-hurling-qualifiers-and-afterwards/


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    #146
    Orizio
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    Rebel1977 wrote: »
    I agree with you. Heard he used charge gaa clubs for medal presentations, total disgrace.

    Link or apologise to a Cork Hurling legend.


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    #147
    Orizio
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    Show Time wrote: »
    Truth hurts eh?

    You're right, I'm visciously hurt by your made up insults. If only I had the bravery and courage to be an junior b hurler anonymously insulting and slandering a Cork legend that gave a decade's worth of blood and sweat for his county from the safety of my computer. Alas, I lack your obviously considerable sense of dignity and moral strength. :(


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    #148
    Show Time
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    I did also ask a serious question about underage development or is there anything been done there.


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    #149
    dartbhoy
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    Orizio wrote: »
    Utterly clueless.
    Typical response I expected from you.


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    #150
    Orizio
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    Show Time wrote: »
    I did also ask a serious question about underage development or is there anything been done there.

    Well there was a five year plan put in place (or else put forward to the CCB) a year or so back which looked excellent, and apparently there is a massive amount of new coaches in the county over the last couple of years plus full-time development coaches (not sure if they are still in place) and underage development squads. At the same time a lot of people are still saying Cork hurling underage is nowhere near as well prepared as the footballers, so who knows if things are getting better.


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    #151
    Show Time
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    Orizio wrote: »
    Well there was a five year plan put in place (or else put forward to the CCB) a year or so back which looked excellent, and apparently there is a massive amount of new coaches in the county over the last couple of years plus full-time development coaches (not sure if they are still in place) and underage development squads. At the same time a lot of people are still saying Cork hurling underage is nowhere near as well prepared as the footballers, so who knows if things are getting better.
    Long road ahead so.:(


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