Pharmacist salary?

limerickmunster wrote: »

Im in first year pharmacy in Ireland and hope that the jobs situation has righted itself in 4-5 years because it sure isn't pretty right now....

Wouldn't like to be graduating this year or next..think a masters or PhD might be the way to go..kill some years and gloss the CV..could lead to some interesting career moves as well...don't like the idea of using my degree to be looked at as a till monkey..

Ah well..:D

It really depends on how much more the HSE budget will get hit and how many will be entering Ireland to work as Pharmacists over the next few years along with how many pharmacies will actually remain. I'd say expect the number of Pharmacies to fall in Ireland (as there are way too much already) and keep an open mind (as it seems you are doing!) about different career aspects.

segaBOY wrote: »

People can get notions about themselves, I remember coming across a newly qualified Pharmacist straight over from a uni in Brighton who was thinking of bitching to her boss because she didn't get paid for an extra 15 mins she had to do every second week-despite the fact she was earning just shy of €70k-a good kick up the backside wouldn't go astray.

How about comparing that with Dentists who do an Equivalent amount of training time (Five Years) yet Dentists get far more pay.
Also Dentists (and almost all other Health professionals) get a thing called a Lunch Break - Yet community Pharmacists don't, in fact I've never had a lunch break - ever.
Just stating facts here.

onetrueone wrote: »

How about comparing that with Dentists who do an Equivalent amount of training time (Five Years) yet Dentists get far more pay.
Also Dentists (and almost all other Health professionals) get a thing called a Lunch Break - Yet community Pharmacists don't, in fact I've never had a lunch break - ever.
Just stating facts here.

We all work hard mate, I studied my @ss off to get the points to do Pharmacy and I have to say the course isn't all that bad, a lot of work in it but not all that difficult. One of my best mates is a Dentist and his course sounded way harder tbh.

Tbh that's the profession you choose, plenty of Civil Engineers who did equivalent training time and they now don't have a job to go to.

With regard your lunch break that is a pain, along with the standing and taking the moaning from clients but that's all part of the job in a busy Pharmacy, better than humping bricks on a building site.

Not trying to slate you here but there are plenty of well educated people out there who'd give their right arm for our job.

segaBOY wrote: »

One of my best mates is a Dentist and his course sounded way harder tbh.

That's funny two Pharmacists I know went back to study Dentistry and both said that the Pharmacy training was harder.

Please anybody tell me another profession where there is no lunch break (its also illegal), as for other professions being easier than comunity pharmacy, why is that pharmacy has the highest attrition rate of all healthcare professions.. has anyone heard of a dentist or a gp going back to college to become a community pharmacist, its never happened because community pharmacy is a job with ****e conditions.. and thats it.

Junior doctors do get lunch breaks ive worked with them on hospital wards. in fact i recently was talking to an ex community pharmacist who is now a junior doctor and she said to me that how weird it was to have a lunch break after working as a community pharmacist in an items factory pharmacy.

that's true and a direct quote from a USA pharmacy website even if youre trying to tell a joke.

from a person that is after going back to study pharmacy after a primary science degree, the course is grand, but im guessing all my years studying will reap no financial rewards and am open to either industry or hospital. just a question for the pharmacists here:
to be a locum pharmacist must you first do your prereg, then do u have to have 3 yrs ireland pharmacy experience or can you do locum work straight after your prereg year?

Pharmacists are first, and foremostly, not overpaid; if anything underpaid. It is immensely responsible work with direct patient contact and assumption of clinical responsibility in a very broad sense. An error a pharmacist assumes responsibility for (in the UK at least) is a criminal offence. I have had 2 pharmacists in coronors (then criminal) court in a brief 4 years in a UK hospital. One was directly implicated in cause of death; an error many wouldn't raise an eyebrow to, but, defense went to town on it and she was held for manslaughter/criminal negligence. This has been described in law by a recent test case. It is incomparable with MLSO or academic qualifications, I am however, and in no way, admonishing these. Salaries will be proportional to clinical responsibility and patient services (as opposed to archaic drug schemes) - this transition will neither be quick or painless for the traditional business model.

gph wrote: »

Pharmacists are first, and foremostly, not overpaid; if anything underpaid. It is immensely responsible work with direct patient contact and assumption of clinical responsibility in a very broad sense. An error a pharmacist assumes responsibility for (in the UK at least) is a criminal offence. I have had 2 pharmacists in coronors (then criminal) court in a brief 4 years in a UK hospital. One was directly implicated in cause of death; an error many wouldn't raise an eyebrow to, but, defense went to town on it and she was held for manslaughter/criminal negligence. This has been described in law by a recent test case. It is incomparable with MLSO or academic qualifications, I am however, and in no way, admonishing these. Salaries will be proportional to clinical responsibility and patient services (as opposed to archaic drug schemes) - this transition will neither be quick or painless for the traditional business model.

Couldnt agree with you more, relative to the amount of support staff and back-up available to other healthcare professions plus the fact that pharmacists end-up fixing other peoples problems pharmacy is a career that is under paid and under appreciated.