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Assistance in Making a Budget 1/2 Build PC for General Use
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23-07-2015 4:40pm#1I have a 10 year old dell that over time I replaced some parts in.
Purpose:
I need it for general browsing and office use, light gaming (fluid Sims 3 at max specs) and speedy day-to-day use
Budget:
<€250 ideally (€300 at an absolute push)
I have:- Graphics card - NVIDIA GeForce GT 240
- HDD: 1TB HDD
- OS: Windows 7-64 bit
- 2 x 2GB Ram (I think)
- A 120 GB SSD (uninstalled, currently windows is on the HDD but I'll use this in the new build)
Hoping I can retain these 3 pieces and change the rest.
So I'm looking for suggestions on the below compatible components:
I need:- MoBo
- Processor
- Tower & Fans
- Power Source
- Optical Drive
- Sound Card - if required, don't know much about this tbh
- Ram - if required (I'm pretty sure it has 2x2Gb)
I've included the System Specs and DxDiag below for reference
System Information
Time of this report: 7/22/2015, 14:18:50
Machine name: CORMACDELL-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.150525-0603)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Dell DM061
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 2.4.0
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4030MB RAM
Page File: 2380MB used, 5677MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode
Display Devices
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 240
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GT 240
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0CA3&SUBSYS_83261043&REV_A2
Display Memory: 2737 MB
Dedicated Memory: 978 MB
Shared Memory: 1758 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: DELL 1907FP
Monitor Id: DEL4014
Native Mode: 1280 x 1024(p) (60.020Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.2049 (English)
Driver Version: 9.18.13.2049
DDI Version: 10.1
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/21/2013 13:06:36, 15144928 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4FE3-11CF-F27B-2BA31FC2C435}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0CA3
SubSys ID: 0x83261043
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Driver Strong Name: oem5.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section002:9.18.13.2049:pci\ven_10de&dev_0ca3
Rank Of Driver: 00E02001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
AGP Status: Enabled
Sound Devices
Description:
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID:
Manufacturer ID:
Product ID:
Type:
Driver Name:
Driver Version:
Driver Attributes:
WHQL Logo'd:
Date and Size:
Other Files:
Driver Provider:
HW Accel Level: Emulation Only
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
Drive: C:
Free Space: 885.8 GB
Total Space: 953.9 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD10EARS-00MVWB0 ATA Device
Drive:
Model: TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-H553A ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), , 0 bytes
EVR Power Information
Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality)
Quality Flags: 2576
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow half deinterlace
Allow scaling
Decode Power Usage: 100
Balanced Flags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 50
PowerFlags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 00
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A Q6600 still better than any i3?
E8400 too close to call over the G3220? Honestly not sure if this is a wind up...
Don't know why people bother with pointless synthetic benchmarks, they're just that, pointless. Look at real world benchmarks, the G3220 is light years ahead of the E8400...
Go with Digital's suggestion, it's just easier, will perform way better, and gives you the future proofing element, not to mention warranty on the parts. A basic H81m board will cost a lot less than 60-70 though, more like 40-50.My 'bizarre' comment is not so bizarre, the e8400 has been tested to destruction by overclockers globally and is renowned as an extremely sturdy long living cpu. It is still going strong today. Will the pentium? Who knows?
That is a bizarre statement. Boards certainly die but CPU largely don't. In all my years using 100's of CPU's I have yet to see one die. The OP is looking for a basic machine...he's hardly interested in how the processor he chooses copes with being 'overclocked to destruction'.0 -
Digital Solitude wrote: »Intel Pentium G3220 E50
Zalman Z4 E20
250w PSU E25
CD Drive E15
4gb DDR3 E30
H81M motherboard is E60-70
Total is E220 or so.
You can get a nicer case if you want, the Zalman is bottom of the barrel. BitFenix and Lian Li have nice ones.
Any questions, ask away.
Thanks for the suggestions, is there any specific parts I should be looking at on any specific websites, I know last time I had help building a PC there was worlds apart between 2 Graphics cards that looked to me like they had the same specs
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To answer your points,
Granted, I stepped over the mark with 'any' the newer versions can hold their own. However, there are plenty older I3s that are pitiful and the q6600 performs so much better.A Q6600 still better than any i3?
Don't know why people bother with pointless synthetic benchmarks, they're just that, pointless.
Agreed, I didn't start with the comparisons. Just suggested something and god forbid it was not the norm....E8400 too close to call over the G3220? Honestly not sure if this is a wind up...
Did you look at his link? It is not me claiming this, CPU boss in the link he provided have that written at the bottom of their comparison. This is the conclusion of the people making the comparison that he is using as the basis of his argument. I was merely pointing this out.
As it happens I have just deployed 26 lenovos at work with the pentium G3220. I also deployed an I3, I forget which one and an I5 in recent months. The I5 is mine and blows the other machines out of the water with our multiple programs and platforms. The I3 is terrible, slow and unresponsive under the same load.
The pentium performs OK, I tried to influence towards the I5 but budget didn't allow. The pentium is an admirable budget chip. The E8400 will perform in the real world exactly the same, the OP is hardly rendering mass video. I offered a budget option is all.
Future proofing? How exactly does a budget chip that will never be clocked offer future proofing?
Failed CPUs, I've seen one or two in my time but you are correct, the board will go first usually. I was replying to the idea that somehow old is worse and new is better. It reminds me of the 2 year old car is better than a 4 year old car argument. Pure codswallop.0 -
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