This weeks Classic Irish bargains that i'm not buying

11wingnut · 18-09-2014 12:42pm

Was Irish
https://uk.cars.yahoo.com/news/ultra-rare-steyr-puch-500-goes-auction-100500976.html

Capri · 22-09-2014 8:46pm

Interesting auction company

http://www.vanderbrinkauctions.com/about_yvette.htm

......Yvette VanDerBrink, Owner/Auctioneer, formed the company in 2001, after a prophetic message from Minister Tom Stammon. VanDerBrink Auctions is a faith-based company and this makes every auction a mission :eek:

....Working hard was natural while growing up on the family's dairy farm in South Dakota and in the family business Nordstrom's Auto Recyclers of Garretson, SD. It's this work ethic that she brings to the table for her sellers. Yvette gets in there, puts on the gloves and enjoys getting dirty making sure all the details are perfect for her sellers. Yvette and her husband, Steve, and two kids Emily and Johnathon also collect and own several old cars, trucks, and many tractors. The VanDerBrinks also have cattle and cut hay on their farm in rural Hardwick, MN. Yvette and VanDerBrink Auctions look forward to working with you!

"Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up." ~Galatians 6:9

ba_barabus · 22-09-2014 9:24pm

Fire up the DeLorean Marty, we're going back to the 80's......

http://www.webauto.de/site/bg/searchcarportrait/v-id/110818008-9/fahrzeug/FIAT-Ritmo-60-CL-aus-erster-Hand-mit-NUR-75-Kilometer

RobAMerc · 22-09-2014 9:52pm

ba_barabus wrote: »

Fire up the DeLorean Marty, we're going back to the 80's......

http://www.webauto.de/site/bg/searchcarportrait/v-id/110818008-9/fahrzeug/FIAT-Ritmo-60-CL-aus-erster-Hand-mit-NUR-75-Kilometer

thats cracking isn't it ? big money though in fairness

ba_barabus · 22-09-2014 10:03pm

RobAMerc wrote: »

thats cracking isn't it ? big money though in fairness

It's a cracking car.

Just think, you could relive your youth in the morning by waking up to the fizz of corroding bodywork, water traps that defy belief, electrics with a mind of their own, a car that WILL START when IT wants to, a reverse gear that has a British Leyland employees attitude to work, build quality that would make you think robots are worse than people at building them and all that would be let down by actually being a cracking car to drive that day it all decided to work when you test drove it at the dealership.

ALL THAT FOR A BARGAIN PRICE OF €13K. If I just won the euromillions I know what I'd be driving to collect the cheque

I even forgot the fact they were know for exploding and going on fire without notice. How exciting!!!

26000 Elephants · 22-09-2014 10:06pm

ba_barabus wrote: »

Fire up the DeLorean Marty, we're going back to the 80's......

http://www.webauto.de/site/bg/searchcarportrait/v-id/110818008-9/fahrzeug/FIAT-Ritmo-60-CL-aus-erster-Hand-mit-NUR-75-Kilometer

My god, you could drive a 48A through the panel gaps on the front bumper of that.

ba_barabus · 22-09-2014 10:10pm

26000 Elephants wrote: »

My god, you could drive a 48A through the panel gaps on the front bumper of that.

I believe they were the inspiration for the panel gaps visible from space on the front bumper of the Rover 75 facelift in 2004.

26000 Elephants · 22-09-2014 10:17pm

ba_barabus wrote: »

It's a cracking car.

Just think, you could relive your youth in the morning by waking up to the fizz of corroding bodywork, water traps that defy belief, electrics with a mind of their own, a car that WILL START when IT wants to, a reverse gear that has a British Leyland employees attitude to work, build quality that would make you think robots are worse than people at building them and all that would be let down by actually being a cracking car to drive that day it all decided to work when you test drove it at the dealership.

ALL THAT FOR A BARGAIN PRICE OF €13K. If I just won the euromillions I know what I'd be driving to collect the cheque

I even forgot the fact they were know for exploding and going on fire without notice. How exciting!!!

They had their moments to be honest. 105tc and 130tc. Later s85 was a decent mover too.

As for the rust, sure, but so did every datsun, toyota and a lot of other cars from the early '80s as well.

ba_barabus · 22-09-2014 10:25pm

26000 Elephants wrote: »

They had their moments to be honest. 105tc and 130tc. Later s85 was a decent mover too.

As for the rust, sure, but so did every datsun, toyota and a lot of other cars from the early '80s as well.

That's all tongue firmly in cheek. I'd love one but the only memories I have of them consist of rust, constantly broken gearboxes and terrible build quality. They were supposed to be great to drive like every Fiat at the time.

26000 Elephants · 22-09-2014 10:36pm

ba_barabus wrote: »

I believe they were the inspiration for the panel gaps visible from space on the front bumper of the Rover 75 facelift in 2004.

Was that a panel gap? I thought it was just owners leaving the bonnet open to make it easier to fit the next head gasket....:eek:

pablo128 · 22-09-2014 10:39pm

ba_barabus wrote: »

That's all tongue firmly in cheek. I'd love one but the only memories I have of them consist of rust, constantly broken gearboxes and terrible build quality. They were supposed to be great to drive like every Fiat at the time.

I'm a Fiat man and wouldn't have one. No redeeming qualities other than the engine. Me and my mates bought one off the tinkers when we were young teenagers foar an auld rally. We could hear a scraping noise underneath, and on investigating we found the floor was collapsing and hitting the ground. We had to stop driving it when the sparks coming inside the car got too much.

RobAMerc · 22-09-2014 11:38pm

why does everyone feel obliged to trot out the same auld shyte about Fiats every time one is mentioned on any boards thread, yet someone putting up a pic of a POS Datsun 120y has fellas sliding their hands down their pants.

FFS the Fiat would at least be a decent drive, and lets not forget it was the first car "built by robots" a massive innovation in its day.

Bigus · 22-09-2014 11:58pm

RobAMerc wrote: »

why does everyone feel obliged to trot out the same auld shyte about Fiats every time one is mentioned on any boards thread, yet someone putting up a pic of a POS Datsun 120y has fellas sliding their hands down their pants.

FFS the Fiat would at least be a decent drive, and lets not forget it was the first car "built by robots" a massive innovation in its day.

There wasn't many 120y s thrashed around mondello either, unlike the unburstable Fiat, in 3p Ritmo and uno guises .

pablo128 · 23-09-2014 12:03am

RobAMerc wrote: »

why does everyone feel obliged to trot out the same auld shyte about Fiats every time one is mentioned on any boards thread, yet someone putting up a pic of a POS Datsun 120y has fellas sliding their hands down their pants.

FFS the Fiat would at least be a decent drive, and lets not forget it was the first car "built by robots" a massive innovation in its day.

I wouldn't have one of those crappy leaf sprung Datsuns either! :pac:
In all seriousness I have a 3P myself and have had many Fiats. The Ritmo wasn't one of Fiats finest moments. I certainly wouldn't be paying anywhere close to the asking on the example posted.

Just in case any eagle eyed posters spotted the contradiction I just made, yeah I know the 3P is leaf sprung too!:D

Esel · 23-09-2014 4:22am

pablo128 wrote: »

Me and my mates bought one off the ****ers when we were young teenagers foar an auld rally..

Yeah, but yez can't be saying that these days - especially the foar auld wurd ting....

ba_barabus · 23-09-2014 11:01am

RobAMerc wrote: »

why does everyone feel obliged to trot out the same auld shyte about Fiats every time one is mentioned on any boards thread, yet someone putting up a pic of a POS Datsun 120y has fellas sliding their hands down their pants.

FFS the Fiat would at least be a decent drive, and lets not forget it was the first car "built by robots" a massive innovation in its day.

I was more joking than being serious. I drive an Alfa after all.,...

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 23-09-2014 11:09am

ba_barabus wrote: »

I was more joking than being serious. I drive an Alfa after all.,...

I do also drive an alfa, I was just taking the piss

Tzar Chasm · 23-09-2014 2:25pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/fiat-ritmo-105tc-rally-car/7600894
this is why that ritmo is worth over ten grand

it goes.

dharn · 23-09-2014 3:34pm

Jasus hammond lane wouldn't give you a fiver for it

Capri · 24-09-2014 4:05pm

http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/116000km-the-distance-to-make-up-diesel-premium-30609279.html

116k km before you get a return on your 'daysel'

pablo128 · 24-09-2014 6:44pm

Capri wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/116000km-the-distance-to-make-up-diesel-premium-30609279.html

116k km before you get a return on your 'daysel'

Yeah, if you buy a new car. On an 8 or 9 year old car, the price difference is drastically reduced. And then there's the resale value too to think about.

Capri · 25-09-2014 12:17am

pablo128 wrote: »

Yeah, if you buy a new car. On an 8 or 9 year old car, the price difference is drastically reduced. And then there's the resale value too to think about.

But the pumps / injectors / DPF's STILL cost compared with petrol parts :rolleyes:

pablo128 · 25-09-2014 12:23am

Capri wrote: »

But the pumps / injectors / DPF's STILL cost compared with petrol parts :rolleyes:

Don't buy a car with a dpf then. Toyota don't have them for example. Granted diesel cars have a pump and injectors, but a lot of petrols nowadays have dual mass flywheels, turbo's etc.
Maintenance is everything.

Redrocket · 25-09-2014 9:19am

pablo128 wrote: »

Yeah, if you buy a new car. On an 8 or 9 year old car, the price difference is drastically reduced. And then there's the resale value too to think about.

implication is on a new car, but they dont mention brand or class in either the diesel or petrol version, the only thing I read from that article is "do your OWN maths".

Tzar Chasm · 25-09-2014 3:37pm

pablo128 wrote: »

Yeah, if you buy a new car. On an 8 or 9 year old car, the price difference is drastically reduced. And then there's the resale value too to think about.

It still holds true to some extent on a second hand car,

example, 08 corolla, heres 2 frrm the first page of done deal, same colour/mileage/spec, even the engine size is the same,

petrol 7950

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-terra-spotless-car-f/6982748

daysul 10450
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-d4d-luna-sal/7743759

you would still have to do a lot of driving to make a saving on fuel

swarlb · 25-09-2014 4:43pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

It still holds true to some extent on a second hand car,

example, 08 corolla, heres 2 frrm the first page of done deal, same colour/mileage/spec, even the engine size is the same,

petrol 7950

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-terra-spotless-car-f/6982748

daysul 10450
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-1-4-d4d-luna-sal/7743759

you would still have to do a lot of driving to make a saving on fuel

And to think that in 2038 they'll be eligible for 'vintage' tax as well, yet another saving...

Tzar Chasm · 25-09-2014 7:21pm

Interesting point, I havent seen many corollas at the vintage rallies tho, what makes you think this batch will survive

swarlb · 25-09-2014 8:40pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Interesting point, I havent seen many corollas at the vintage rallies tho, what makes you think this batch will survive

I don't, I was wondering why a posting about cars from 2008 was appearing in the 'classic' car section, or is everything a 'classic' these days.

Tzar Chasm · 25-09-2014 10:36pm

Its an observation in response to another post which is itself a reply to a post about the false economy of diesels, real down the rabbit hole stuff.

that said the original article should be filed away for use the next time some muppet suggests putting a diesel conversion in a classic to save a few bob

type85 · 25-09-2014 11:13pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

that said the original article should be filed away for use the next time some muppet suggests putting a diesel conversion in a classic to save a few bob

Well folks doing the Math if you say an average Petrol car returns 30 mpg and Diesel 45 mpg, with fuel prices of 1.55 and 1.45 respectively, then the savings per mile is
9 to 10 cent. That’s works out with a person doing 20,000 miles a year saving between 1800 and 2000 euro per year.
Regardless of what year of vehicle you drive, if you can afford to pass over that kind of saving I think your being over paid with more money than sense. And with something more economical doing late 50’s or early 60’s the offset or savings will be even more.

This weeks Classic Irish bargains that i'm not buying

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