[Chazz Michael Michaels]

Originally Posted by iMADEtheBBC

see also : poor man's copyright

How about an Irish reference?

[TheStickyBandit]

Well here's one of our tracks;

After Earth - we won't break.
http://soundcloud.com/user7309627/we-wont-break

[iMADEtheBBC]

Originally Posted by Chazz Michael Michaels

How about an Irish reference?

How exactly will that change the fact? Putting .ie proves nothing.

There is an industry Irish website that propogates this myth but I won't link to it because it only reinforces the problem.

Every legal professional I have discussed this with insists that there is no protection offered by this method. The links I provided support their position.

The real problem is that there is, to my knowledge, no European equivalent to the US Copyright Office.

I’ve heard about a “poor man’s copyright.” What is it?
The practice of sending a copy of your own work to yourself is sometimes called a “poor man’s copyright.” There is no provision in the copyright law regarding any such type of protection, and it is not a substitute for registration.

Even if a CD sent in the post was opened in court it only proves that you have a CD in an envelope.

Here's some more links:

http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/...ans-copyright/


Here's one in the UK
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/copy/c-a...aq-protect.htm

My emphasis:

Copyright protection is automatic as soon as there is a record in any form of what has been created (there is no official registration). However, steps can be taken by the creator of a work to provide evidence that he or she had the work at a particular time. For example, a copy could be deposited with a bank or solicitor. Alternatively, a creator could send himself or herself a copy by special delivery post (which gives a clear date stamp on the envelope), leaving the envelope unopened on its return. A number of private companies operate unofficial registers, but it would be sensible to check carefully what you will be paying for before choosing this route.
It is important to note, that this does not prove that a work is original or created by you. But it may be useful to be able to show that the work was in your possession at a particular date, for example where someone else claims that you have copied something of theirs that was only created at a later date.

[Chazz Michael Michaels]

Originally Posted by iMADEtheBBC

How exactly will that change the fact? Putting .ie proves nothing.

There is an industry Irish website that propogates this myth but I won't link to it because it only reinforces the problem.

Every legal professional I have discussed this with insists that there is no protection offered by this method. The links I provided support their position.

The real problem is that there is, to my knowledge, no European equivalent to the US Copyright Office.

Even if a CD sent in the post was opened in court it only proves that you have a CD in an envelope.

Here's some more links:

http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/...ans-copyright/


Here's one in the UK
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/copy/c-a...aq-protect.htm

My emphasis:

Another waste of time. How about beginning by showing a reference to Irish law? Is that so hard? If someone is trying to copyright a song in Ireland, why should we care what US/UK law says in regard to this, unless we want to protect the copyright in these jurisdictions? You seem to think that US/UK law governs Ireland. It doesn't.

It's like debating cannabis use in Ireland, and then linking to a country where it is legal, and then saying its legal to do so in Ireland also.

[iMADEtheBBC]

Go ahead and use whatever system you think will work.

Good luck.

[dogmax]

copyright is simple if you have a recording of your work then put them in a register envelope them seal the envelope with the post office stamp and send them to yourself do not open the envelope, then put your songs on your laptop or PC and send them to your email that will cover you for world wide copyright then use the Internet to let the world hear your songs because the Internet is your world wide audience and if your songs are use by someone else without your permission then let them make millions and then take them to court and sue them for everything they made from your work, and remember don't think about it just do it, all the very best of luck