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Video of man caught trying to meet 15 year old for sex

  • 18-02-2013 12:40pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493




    I don't really know what to think of this. Obviously paedophiles should be stopped, but I don't feel its up to some dicks with a camera and youtube to do it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    They need to set up a group to stop paedophiles. I propose the 'PaedophileBusters'. Similar to the GhostBusters, only for paedophiles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    In some European countries, the legal age is 14 so... how is this going to work?

    You're scum in these countries but are perfectly normal in these other countries?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    In some European countries, the legal age is 14 so... how is this going to work?

    You're scum in these countries but are perfectly normal in these other countries?

    It's 13 in Spain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Confab wrote: »
    It's 13 in Spain.

    I think it's still 12 in the Vatican City and some parts of North/South America, no? And I think there's only a handful of countries where it's 13.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    In some European countries, the legal age is 14 so... how is this going to work?

    You're scum in these countries but are perfectly normal in these other countries?

    This is Birmingham though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭Seedy Arling


    Why don't you go ahead and have a seat right on that stool for me please...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Sin City wrote: »
    This is Birmingham though

    The age is 16 there. I can't help but think the people filming it are just trying to be the next Chris Hansens and just doing it for popularity/15 minutes of fame instead of trying to do something useful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    In some European countries, the legal age is 14 so... how is this going to work?

    You're scum in these countries but are perfectly normal in these other countries?

    When you use a bit of cop on and weight up your age, I am 22, I wouldn't be involving myself with anyone below 18 and that's at a push! Just because a law says 13/14/15 dose not make it morally right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    They think they're great but just let him drive off at the end. Clearly they just want the Youtube views.
    Why wasn't he detained until the police arrived? Next time he will choose a safer place or visit his granddaughter rather than strangers online.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    If it stops him assaulting even 1 child then im all for things like this. Do you think he will chat to any more 15yr old girls looking for sex? It will work in a situation like this and tbh, i have no problems if anyone wanted to assault that man on the street.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    msg11 wrote: »
    When you use a bit of cop on and weight up your age, I am 22, I wouldn't be involving myself with anyone below 18 and that's at a push! Just because a law says 13/14/15 dose not make it morally right.

    I think you're missing my point.
    The people in the video are just doing it for YT views/15 minutes of fame. They couldn't give a damn if the girl was 17 (where the age of consent is 18) or 12 (if it was in Spain where the age is 13). They just see it as "we can be famous for doing the right thing".

    And yeah, I agree with you completely about the age thing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭gallag


    Fantastic work, things like this happening surely plays in the back of pedophiles minds and saves many children being raped.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Sin City wrote: »
    This is Birmingham though

    good point. In the UK/Ireland you're scum as soon a a tabloid whips up a frenzy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    They need to set up a group to stop paedophiles. I propose the 'PaedophileBusters'. Similar to the GhostBusters, only for paedophiles.

    wonder what happens if they cross those streams


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Taking the law into their own hands by posting this stuff on line.

    If they had any suspicion of the guy they should have gone to the cops first.

    If your man gets beaten up by some vigilant group they will have a lot of answering to do.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭gallag


    Is that true about age of consent being 12 in the Vatican? And 13 in Spain? Thats disgusting, legal rape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    I think you're missing my point.
    The people in the video are just doing it for YT views/15 minutes of fame. They couldn't give a damn if the girl was 17 (where the age of consent is 18) or 12 (if it was in Spain where the age is 13). They just see it as "we can be famous for doing the right thing".

    And yeah, I agree with you completely about the age thing.

    I agree it's just for there own buzz, what justice will come from this? The person in the video, he needs to be added to the sex offense register and the police shown the footage and chat logs. Then let them deal with it, he's quite clearly a liability if what we are told/show in video is correct.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭RaRaRasputin


    A 15 year old is not a child, so this guy can't be classed as a paedophile!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭gallag


    Taking the law into their own hands by posting this stuff on line.

    If they had any suspicion of the guy they should have gone to the cops first.

    If your man gets beaten up by some vigilant group they will have a lot of answering to do.
    Why should society care if a child rapist gets attacked? **** him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    They need to set up a group to stop paedophiles. I propose the 'PaedophileBusters'. Similar to the GhostBusters, only for paedophiles.

    I'm in, but there's no way in hell I'm mopping paedoplasm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    How come internet paedos are often middle aged men? Is there some sort of sick switch that goes off once they're over the hill?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    A 15 year old is not a child, so this guy can't be classed as a paedophile!

    In Irish law, anyone under the age of 17 is a child.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    gallag wrote: »
    Is that true about age of consent being 12 in the Vatican? And 13 in Spain? Thats disgusting, legal rape.

    In Spain it is 13. But remember, there are still parents to deal with and whatnot so ideally, it wouldn't happen (I don't think it actually happens as much as people imagine it does). Plus it's also illegal if the older person is a teacher or a trust guardian and the likes so it's not really as bad as it seems.
    Or at least I hope not...
    Not sure about the Vatican; I think it might have been changed to about 18 or something but for a while at least it was 12.
    msg11 wrote: »
    I agree it's just for there own buzz, what justice will come from this? The person in the video, he needs to be added to the sex offense register and the police shown the footage and chat logs. Then let them deal with it, he's quite clearly a liability if what we are told/show in video is correct.

    Well yeah but I mean at the end of the day, they don't care in the slightest. And I dunno if the cops would be able to do much (if anything). Logs can be faked and stuff, no?
    gallag wrote: »
    Why should society care if a child rapist gets attacked? **** him.

    What did he do, exactly? Expect to have sex with a 15 year old? That's not a child rapist is it?
    Although I haven't gotten to watch the video yet so...
    msg11 wrote: »
    In Irish law, anyone under the age of 17 is a child.

    I think he meant the fact that "pedophiles" describe people attracted to kids that haven't hit puberty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,067 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    krudler wrote: »
    wonder what happens if they cross those streams

    If someone asks if your over the age of concent, you say YES!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭UDP


    gallag wrote: »
    Is that true about age of consent being 12 in the Vatican? And 13 in Spain? Thats disgusting, legal rape.
    in the Vatican, it's 14 for a female and 16 for a male but they must be married.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭twinQuins


    gallag wrote: »
    Why should society care if a child rapist gets attacked? **** him.

    I think the point is that outside of a sufficient investigation we've only these guys' word to go on - what happens when an innocent person is injured or killed because they got it wrong?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    gallag wrote: »
    Is that true about age of consent being 12 in the Vatican? And 13 in Spain? Thats disgusting, legal rape.

    In the Vatican its just because the law was copied from Italian law centuries ago and Italian law has since changed. You also need to be married in the Vatican which isn't possible at age 12. Technically a girl could have legal sex at 14.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭gallag






    What did he do, exactly? Expect to have sex with a 15 year old? That's not a child rapist is it?
    Although I haven't gotten to watch the video yet so...



    I think he meant the fact that "pedophiles" describe people attracted to kids that haven't hit puberty.
    Yes sir, a 61 yo man having sex with a 15 yo girl is indeed rape, morally and legally.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭harney


    gallag wrote: »
    Is that true about age of consent being 12 in the Vatican? And 13 in Spain? Thats disgusting, legal rape.

    It is not legal rape if that is the age of consent, although that doesn't make it any less disgusting.

    According to Wikipedia the age of consent in Europe ranges from 13 to 18.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe


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