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History of the Nicene Creed

  • 02-01-2008 1:54am
    #1
    robindch
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    BBC Radio 4's regular documentary on the history of ideas, In our Time, looked into the Nicene Creed last week:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime_20071227.shtml

    Haven't listened to this yet and can't recommend or comment upon it, but IOT's been good in the past and I'm sure this one will be no different. The format is a three-person panel discussing the topic, roughly kept in line by a series of scripted questions from Melvyn Bragg.

    Other religious topics are available here and the complete program archive is available here.


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  • #2
    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    I'm listening to it now, it really is an interesting topic, it was a fascinating time and has shaped our world dramatically. However Andrew Louth's claim that Constantine intervened by calling the Council of Nicea because he was worried that the massive division among Christianity would mean that God couldn't hear the prayers of believers is almost laughable.

    Constantine was a practical man, it was obvious to him that the Western Roman Empire was collapsing, he was one of 6 rival Roman Emperors who were all fighting for ultimate control, the barbarians were knocking on the door, and all of this was made worse by the fact that Roman people were divided in their religious beliefs. Absolute order was needed and a unified Church would help achieve this, one God and one Emperor.

    His choice of Christianity as state religion was not because of any miraculous vision, it was because Christianity demanded unquestioning servitude among its believers, the benefits of this in such a time of chaos are obvious.

    Constantine is revered and praised for his wisdom by Christans, why? It isn't because he was a good and pius man, after all he had one of his sons murdered and his wife killed by throwing her into a bath of boiling water. Christians love him because he gave them power. Ironically Constantine was only baptised as a Christian on his death-bed, and was baptised as a heretical Christian because he chose the Arian Bishop Eusebius of Nicomedia.


  • #3
    philologos
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    Wasn't Eusebius the bishop of Caesarea?


  • #4
    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Wasn't Eusebius the bishop of Caesarea?

    He was, but that was a different Eusebius to the Nicomedian bishop.


  • #5
    Dunlainge
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    I heard before that the correct name for the Nicene Creed is the "Nicene-Constantinople Creed". Did anyone else ever hear this?


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